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RailBoss 09-30-2015 12:33 PM

Re: Saints restructure Drew Brees deal, push more cap hit to future
 
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 672053)
You guys can feel however you want but this season is far from over and it's obvious the team hasn't given up.

Not to paint too pretty of a picture here, but all three losses went down to the wire and we lost by shooting ourselves in the foot.

3 starters coming back from injury.
1 more player could make an impact.
Anything can happen.

Like 3-3 and a game back by week six.

Yup someone is on SP's radar. Agreed games are very close! A win against the Cow's will swing the momentum.

Rugby Saint II 09-30-2015 12:40 PM

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People have been screaming for Drew to restructure or something about his contract. Well, he's done it and we don't know why. Head scratcher.

burningmetal 09-30-2015 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Budsdrinker (Post 672073)
This is a simple move. The cap is expected to rise by 17 million next year plus Brees will no doubt sign an extension to lower his cap and we need help this year. This is the only way to receive cap help. After 3 weeks this season isn't over.

I don't have cap numbers handy at my disposal, and thus I obviously don't study all the numbers. But I'm guessing that when people we hear reports about cap issues for next year, it's because they factoring salary hikes along with the projected cap raise. And this deal is adding to that issue.

burningmetal 09-30-2015 12:43 PM

Re: Saints restructure Drew Brees deal, push more cap hit to future
 
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 672077)
People have been screaming for Drew to restructure or something about his contract. Well, he's done it and we don't know why. Head scratcher.

It's because this isn't a cost reducing move. It's just a pay me later move.

Budsdrinker 09-30-2015 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 672079)
It's because this isn't a cost reducing move. It's just a pay me later move.

Yes but it allows the ability to sign a player this year that is in need and pay me later part can be absorb in an extension and also as the cap number climbs. This year $143 million next year it's supposed to increase to $160 million.

SmashMouth 09-30-2015 01:08 PM

Re: Saints restructure Drew Brees deal, push more cap hit to future
 
Will they give Jahri Evans a raise?

We'll have to wait and see what they have in mind.

:popcorn:

Right now it's just befuddling speculation.

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burningmetal 09-30-2015 01:09 PM

Re: Saints restructure Drew Brees deal, push more cap hit to future
 
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Originally Posted by Budsdrinker (Post 672080)
Yes but it allows the ability to sign a player this year that is in need and pay me later part can be absorb in an extension and also as the cap number climbs. This year $143 million next year it's supposed to increase to $160 million.

Right, but as I said to you in another reply, there will be rising salaries as well. Mickey has been back-loading contracts for years, and it's precisely why we're in the predicament we're in. It's fine and dandy to bring in a player for now, but who exactly are we going to get at this point and how many times are we going to keep making the same mistakes that put us in a hole?

Also, given Drew's injury and age I don't think an extension would be a good idea.

CharityMike 09-30-2015 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 672046)
I have no doubt we're making a move for somebody.

TE? WR? DE/OLB?

Heard on the radio Payton talking about TE. He is not happy with the production so far and said we need some help there. His exact words.

AsylumGuido 09-30-2015 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 672072)
That really is the best thing for the team. I don't expect it to happen, but it would be huge. There are several people who will say he shouldn't have to do that, because it's his money... blah blah. Yes, it's his money. But if he wants to win it's kind of important that he clear some space.

We know Mickey won't clear it any other way.

I have no doubt Brees will do the Brady-type extension after this season. The future cap will not be an issue. The cap limit is rising a significant amount each year and there is no end to that trend in sight. Pushing cap hit to the future is smart finance. This is nothing but cost accounting 101. And, yes, I do have an accounting degree ... as does Loomis.

AsylumGuido 09-30-2015 01:47 PM

Re: Saints restructure Drew Brees deal, push more cap hit to future
 
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Originally Posted by Budsdrinker (Post 672073)
This is a simple move. The cap is expected to rise by 17 million next year plus Brees will no doubt sign an extension to lower his cap and we need help this year. This is the only way to receive cap help. After 3 weeks this season isn't over.

Absolutely.

AsylumGuido 09-30-2015 01:49 PM

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Of course, Antonio Gates and Brees do have a history.

brees84 09-30-2015 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CharityMike (Post 672083)
Heard on the radio Payton talking about TE. He is not happy with the production so far and said we need some help there. His exact words.

Brandon Browner for Travis Kelce lol

saintshrimp 09-30-2015 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 672053)
You guys can feel however you want but this season is far from over and it's obvious the team hasn't given up.

Not to paint too pretty of a picture here, but all three losses went down to the wire and we lost by shooting ourselves in the foot.

3 starters coming back from injury.
1 more player could make an impact.
Anything can happen.

Like 3-3 and a game back by week six.

I'm all for optimism but come on. This season is over. There is not one or even two new players that are going to help us. what one player or two even are you gonna get for 3 mil a year to save this team

jnormand 09-30-2015 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by saintshrimp (Post 672092)
I'm all for optimism but come on. This season is over. There is not one or even two new players that are going to help us. what one player or two even are you gonna get for 3 mil a year to save this team

The season isn't over. It's week 4 and some of the best players are starting to come back. Cmon man! You crazy!!!

SaintsBro 09-30-2015 02:29 PM

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Could be they need some cap room to bring in somebody else to replace Byrd on the roster, long term, if it turns out that he's not actually gonna ever be back. #cynicism #bummer #negaSaints #speculation

halloween 65 09-30-2015 02:31 PM

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Like Payton said himself, Clark Kent isn't walking through the door. I say a big, mean,nasty NT could help.

brees84 09-30-2015 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 672097)
Like Payton said himself, Clark Kent isn't walking through the door.

If Clark Kent indeed walks through the door, Rob Ryan would give him kryptonite.

spkb25 09-30-2015 03:23 PM

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Hope it is Albert Connell

saintfan 09-30-2015 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 672106)
Hope it is Albert Connell

Your age is showing...

jnormand 09-30-2015 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 672106)
Hope it is Albert Connell

Lol. Talk about poor decisions in the past. The guy was a pos.

RaginCajun83 09-30-2015 04:12 PM

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What's Jim Everett up to these days?

saintshrimp 09-30-2015 04:19 PM

Re: Saints restructure Drew Brees deal, push more cap hit to future
 
Johnathon Sullivan would fit right in with this team where is he at

voodooido 09-30-2015 04:35 PM

Re: Saints restructure Drew Brees deal, push more cap hit to future
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 672086)
I have no doubt Brees will do the Brady-type extension after this season. The future cap will not be an issue. The cap limit is rising a significant amount each year and there is no end to that trend in sight. Pushing cap hit to the future is smart finance. This is nothing but cost accounting 101. And, yes, I do have an accounting degree ... as does Loomis.

Yeah cause it worked so well for us in the past.:dunce:. Were you stranded on a deserted island all off-season?

vpheughan 09-30-2015 04:39 PM

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Why? Brees gets cut next year.

vtiger72 09-30-2015 05:02 PM

Re: Saints restructure Drew Brees deal, push more cap hit to future
 
I'm calling a trade for Martellus Bennett from the Bears. The prorated potion of his salary is just under 4 million. With the space the Saints created, they have about 5 million under the cap. Payton wants a TE. Bears are dumping contracts. The money adds up.

brees84 09-30-2015 05:08 PM

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traded for Michael Hoomanawanui! championship!

4 career TDs. 518 yds.

AllSaints 09-30-2015 05:17 PM

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He's a blocking TE from what I hear

brees84 09-30-2015 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by AllSaints (Post 672120)
He's a blocking TE from what I hear

Yeah. Not sure we had to trade for someone like him.

RaginCajun83 09-30-2015 05:21 PM

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they made cap space for this move?


Exxcalibur 09-30-2015 05:22 PM

Re: Saints restructure Drew Brees deal, push more cap hit to future
 
So, what's Michael Hoomanawanui like?

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2...npI/story.html

brees84 09-30-2015 05:25 PM

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So we traded Hicks for this dude. lol Are they serious?

brees84 09-30-2015 05:26 PM

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Hicks played poorly but c'mon man...

Exxcalibur 09-30-2015 05:29 PM

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Nice catch...

I don't know the guy, so I am happy to see how it plays out.

Highlight: Michael Hoomanawanui one-handed TD grab | New England Patriots

Rsanders24 09-30-2015 05:30 PM

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Damn....I wonder what we gave up for this....it's a proven fact that you don't trade for Patriot players...they mail it in until their contracts are up and they can go back...lol

Rsanders24 09-30-2015 05:31 PM

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Hicks is headed to the Pro Bowl....lol

SmashMouth 09-30-2015 05:34 PM

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Hooman Dat!

brees84 09-30-2015 05:35 PM

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Bill Johnson, now watch and learn!

rezburna 09-30-2015 05:37 PM

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Bruh.....

RaginCajun83 09-30-2015 05:41 PM

Re: Saints restructure Drew Brees deal, push more cap hit to future
 
its like they trying to get the first pick now

Exxcalibur 09-30-2015 05:45 PM

Re: Saints restructure Drew Brees deal, push more cap hit to future
 
I am assuming this has nothing directly to do with the Brees restructure?

Does that mean we have something else coming up? Pass rush from somewhere?


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