Who could the Saints be creating cap space for?
 

This is a desperate season for the Saints, making it inconvenient for them to be off to an 0-3 start.

But they’ve added to their 2016 salary cap issues with their latest bid to create some short-term room.

According to Field Yates of ESPN, the Saints turned $5.2 million of Brees’ base salary into a signing bonus, which created $2.6 million in cap space now. That pushes his 2016 cap value to $30 million.

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JJ Watt would be about the only person I can think of that would make a difference on this D, and he ain't play for that level of coin...

Saints restructure Drew Brees deal, push more cap hit to future
 

This is a desperate season for the Saints, making it inconvenient for them to be off to an 0-3 start.

But they’ve added to their 2016 salary cap issues with their latest bid to create some short-term room.

According to Field Yates of ESPN, the Saints turned $5.2 million of Brees’ base salary into a signing bonus, which created $2.6 million in cap space now. That pushes his 2016 cap value to $30 million.

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Coupled with the continued hits from the Junior Galette deal and others (over $12 million in dead money next year), and the Saints are on the verge of a significant financial situation.

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Alshon Jeffrey
Muhammad Wilkerson

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Oh boy, we have something cooking here!! Expecting big news soon.

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Bears are having a fire sale.

I'd rather add bullets to Brees's belt than another headache lineman for Roby Ryan to drop into coverage like he did with Jenkins last week...

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Willie Young?

Hakeen Nicks?

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robbing Peter to pay Paul is about to finally bite the Saints in the *** come 2016

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Yep, about to pull the trigger on someone and don't be worried about The cap hit next year. Brees will be extended for 3 years with a hometown discount and everything will be great.

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Not so sure on Alshon Jeffrey as they see him as an up and comer, although as a 4th year guy, he should have matured already. Think Toon here.

Wilkerson is not even a Bear. He wants big money as a Jet.
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That is a red flag to me, why are they willing to push Brees's already huge cap next year up, unless they are planning on not having to deal with it?

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Sounds like the real theme for 2015 should be "Punt"!!

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I just saw on ESPN where Drews hit is 30 million next year. Lets you know he will play out his contract in N.O. If we release him we will have about 23 million in dead money and no way some one will trade for a 30 million QB not named Luck.

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This will produce about 23 million in dead money. No way the Saints could do that. No one will trade for a QB making 30 million a year not named Luck.

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I don't care if it was Julio Jones going to the O this D want hold. We need a disruptive NT to make this season even salvagable.

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Maybe, maybe we're doing an early extension for Armstead?

There is no outside veteran that I'd want to bring into this team (okay, maybe J.J. Watt, Khalil Mack or Calvin Johnson - that's it and not going to happen)...

Want to see us get, stay younger and build through the draft, UDRFA and occasional FA with cap friendly number...

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2013: 89 catches • 1,421 yards • 16.0 ypc • 7 TD's
2014: 85 catches • 1,133 yards • 13.3 ypc • 10 TD's

Jeffrey has already shown what he is. Toon never showed that kind of ability. The Bears are considering trades for anybody at this point.

I'd say forget the draft. You trade for Jeffrey. You sign Hakeem Nicks. You now have the likes of Jeffrey and Nicks on the outside with Cooks in the slot. You use Colston in a pass catching TE role. Willie Snead and Brandon Coleman are serviceable rotation men. You just fixed the lack of weapons on offense.

Defensively, you trade what you have to for a pass rusher, and whether it's a 4-3 or a 3-4 guy you adjust accordingly. How does Muhammad Wilkerson and Cam Jordan sound on the ends, and you bump Hicks down to NT? I guarantee those blitzes will start to get through more often. These are desperate times. Call the John Abraham's. We have to pressure the QB to make our press corners more effective. Wilkerson would completely change this defense in a good way, especially when we have Byrd and Lewis back.

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Alshon Jeffrey is a quitter and he only plays when the matchups are favorable - No Thanks...

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I don't like it...

Doesn't matter who we get it's just another poor salary cap move that will hurt the team's future. Used to have a lot of faith in Loomis but that was misguided by his ability to kick the can down the road. Now with all of the blunders recently with poor signings and poor contract extensions if it doesn't work this team will A) get blown to pieces next year and rebuild for 5 years or B) try again with the same cast of clowns forcing the team to be irrelevant for 10 years.

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An upgrade at WR or OG or DE may change this team who is also about to get 3 defensive starters back in action.

Everyone stop talking about "next season" - we're not even close to done with 2015.

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This is definitely a head scratcher.

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This is just the first resturucturing or renegotiation of Brees contract.

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It's actually not at all.

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What Hakeem Nicks starting for US??? No No No

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Three games this season. Two receiving TDs. We need help.

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Donte Moncrief.

They alredy paid Hilton and drafted Dorsett.

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Hakeem Nicks is better then Colston right now. I don't care what anybody says. Plus he's still young.

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A little late. Needed to do this before losing his key O linemen... :-/

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Just kicking the can down the road.
At some point, you have to pay the piper.
They've just up'd the dose on the poison.
We die sooner rather than later.
It's showing on the field, it will soon hit the locker room.
Then we will see it upstairs.

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I see your line of thinking, but we need much more than that, NT in particular as Jenkins is simply not doing it. The problem with Colton now is his hands... never used to be. Not sure it makes a difference if you move him to TE for one year before releasing him. Cap space goes up next year significantly. Maybe that's what Loomie is counting on.

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Unless we are planning a trade for a significant salary player I totally do not understand this move.

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I have no doubt we're making a move for somebody.

TE? WR? DE/OLB?

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Da Bears are having a fire sale. Can we get some O-line help or CB anything.

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I find this news unsettling. More pushing back the problems for a short term "solution". Loomis can't just keep treating this like he's got to salvage the window we have left with Drew. That window, while not officially closed, is clearly broken. The more we try to patch things up for the short term, the longer it's going to take to recover our losses and rebuild.

Get Drew healthy, hope that he returns at least relatively close to form, draft some freaking help for him, and hope that the defense grows up enough. Then we might be good again while Drew is still here. If we get desperate, I think we're only closing the window faster.

I don't know exactly what's going to happen with this move, so maybe something else will come about that makes more sense. But if it's what it looks like, I'm not sure it's worth it at all. It's not like we're going to get AJ Green or Julio Jones.

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You guys can feel however you want but this season is far from over and it's obvious the team hasn't given up.

Not to paint too pretty of a picture here, but all three losses went down to the wire and we lost by shooting ourselves in the foot.

3 starters coming back from injury.
1 more player could make an impact.
Anything can happen.

Like 3-3 and a game back by week six.

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Antonio Gates. Coming from suspension. (4 games)

He is still good. Most important thing, can catch football in traffic.

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I never thought they were giving up (other than Sean's punt decision near the end of the Arizona game) but they just aren't very good. Arizona is a good team, but we lost to a horrible Tampa team and a banged up Carolina. Yes we have our injuries, but we don't have enough play makers on offense right now, and all the injuries are on the defensive side. It'll be nice if Byrd and Lewis come back healthy enough to help us, but we also haven't played a particularly tough schedule yet. I wonder just how much of a difference they can make.

A healthy Brees makes us competitive, but not playoff competitive, especially with the hole we're already in. I hope I'm wrong, obviously. We shall see.

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The key for me is if Drew really wants to win another SB title next year he'll pull the Tom Brady and take a salary well bellow market value, I seriously doubt he needs the money and really there are no other options.

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That really is the best thing for the team. I don't expect it to happen, but it would be huge. There are several people who will say he shouldn't have to do that, because it's his money... blah blah. Yes, it's his money. But if he wants to win it's kind of important that he clear some space.

We know Mickey won't clear it any other way.

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This is a simple move. The cap is expected to rise by 17 million next year plus Brees will no doubt sign an extension to lower his cap and we need help this year. This is the only way to receive cap help. After 3 weeks this season isn't over.