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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I must have missed something, because I haven't seen this phenomenal play from Breaux. He's made a couple plays, but he's still a long way off. I'm just glad he isn't getting flagged every other play anymore. I'll take the ...

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Old 10-02-2015, 12:15 AM   #1
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Re: Brandon Browner the Strong Safety?

I must have missed something, because I haven't seen this phenomenal play from Breaux. He's made a couple plays, but he's still a long way off. I'm just glad he isn't getting flagged every other play anymore. I'll take the improvement.

Swann has been pretty good in spots as the nickel guy. I don't know how well he'd do as a starter, just yet. I don't want Browner on the field at any position right now. I don't think it matters where you play him, he's constantly getting lost and committing penalties. I'm not sure what happened to him, but I've seen enough that I can't call it a fluke anymore.
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I must have missed something, because I haven't seen this phenomenal play from Breaux. He's made a couple plays, but he's still a long way off. I'm just glad he isn't getting flagged every other play anymore. I'll take the improvement.

Swann has been pretty good in spots as the nickel guy. I don't know how well he'd do as a starter, just yet. I don't want Browner on the field at any position right now. I don't think it matters where you play him, he's constantly getting lost and committing penalties. I'm not sure what happened to him, but I've seen enough that I can't call it a fluke anymore.
Lewis described Breaux as playing at a "lockdown level."

"It doesn't really surprised me," Lewis said. "That's a guy I knew my whole life. I already knew what he's been working with. ... He's a lockdown corner. You watch him on tape. He blankets guys. He knows what his job is. That's what he do."

As for Swann, he's played consistently well during every game this season. Amazing to say for a fifth-round pick in his rookie season. He's hopped around from cornerback and safety during the first three weeks.

"Very special guy with a bright future," Lewis said. "A guy who can come in as a rookie, and they've thrown so much at him. Three different positions: corner, nickel and safety. He's definitely going to be a star in this league."
Believe it or not, some Saints have played well in 2015: Larry Holder | NOLA.com


Considering that Breaux is rarely tested and the only completion he allowed (that I can remember) was on a busted play, I would say he is doing a great job. Swann, have been playing lights out no matter where he lined up every pass in his direction been contested.
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Lewis described Breaux as playing at a "lockdown level."

"It doesn't really surprised me," Lewis said. "That's a guy I knew my whole life. I already knew what he's been working with. ... He's a lockdown corner. You watch him on tape. He blankets guys. He knows what his job is. That's what he do."

As for Swann, he's played consistently well during every game this season. Amazing to say for a fifth-round pick in his rookie season. He's hopped around from cornerback and safety during the first three weeks.

"Very special guy with a bright future," Lewis said. "A guy who can come in as a rookie, and they've thrown so much at him. Three different positions: corner, nickel and safety. He's definitely going to be a star in this league."
Believe it or not, some Saints have played well in 2015: Larry Holder | NOLA.com


Considering that Breaux is rarely tested and the only completion he allowed (that I can remember) was on a busted play, I would say he is doing a great job. Swann, have been playing lights out no matter where he lined up every pass in his direction been contested.
With all due respect to Lewis, I don't expect him to say anything differently. Teammates don't usually say bad things about each other.

Breaux got beat all game long against Arizona, and got flagged for holding or interference as a result of him being out of position. Tampa Bay sucks, so it's not like it should be hard to defend them, especially when they didn't even have Mike Evans. Yet he got burned for a deep bomb in that one. And against Carolina, again, no weapons except for Olson, but we couldn't cover him. Pretty much everything was thrown in the middle of the field, because it was wide open. I can't say how well Breaux did or did not play in that game, because there was no need to throw downfield.

I don't see him making plays, and that goes for the rest of the guys. I noted the improvement from the Arizona game, but when I hear things like "phenomenal play" and "lockdown level" that is pure hyperbole, at this point.

I agree that Swann has played well, and I said that, but he hasn't been on the field enough to know how he'd do as a starter. I think he's earned the playing time to see what he CAN do, especially over Browner. I'm just not ready to say he's some star until I see him playing a larger role.
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With all due respect to Lewis, I don't expect him to say anything differently. Teammates don't usually say bad things about each other.

Breaux got beat all game long against Arizona, and got flagged for holding or interference as a result of him being out of position. Tampa Bay sucks, so it's not like it should be hard to defend them, especially when they didn't even have Mike Evans. Yet he got burned for a deep bomb in that one. And against Carolina, again, no weapons except for Olson, but we couldn't cover him. Pretty much everything was thrown in the middle of the field, because it was wide open. I can't say how well Breaux did or did not play in that game, because there was no need to throw downfield.

I don't see him making plays, and that goes for the rest of the guys. I noted the improvement from the Arizona game, but when I hear things like "phenomenal play" and "lockdown level" that is pure hyperbole, at this point.

I agree that Swann has played well, and I said that, but he hasn't been on the field enough to know how he'd do as a starter. I think he's earned the playing time to see what he CAN do, especially over Browner. I'm just not ready to say he's some star until I see him playing a larger role.
He had some hiccups Week 1 against the Arizona Cardinals, a game in which he was flagged four times. The reason for the flags, Breaux explained, was the result of resting on the instincts he developed in the Canadian Football League. He quickly fixed those errors and has been almost unbeatable since.

Since that game, Breaux has given up one reception, a 54 yarder, after he lost the ball in the lights and did not receive much assistance from the safety. He’s otherwise largely erased the men he’s covering on every other snap.

Breaux was targeted two other times against Tampa. The first was a go route to wide receiver Mike Evans, but Breaux pinned him to the sideline and forced him out of bounds before he could complete the catch. The second target fell incomplete after Breaux jammed Evans on a crossing route, which forced an incompletion.

The next week against Carolina, Breaux was only targeted once on a go route. He pinned Ted Ginn, who is one of the faster receivers in the NFL, to the sideline and forced an incompletion.

Breaux’s ability to pin receivers to the line, which helps him shrink the field, has been one of his greatest strengths and it’s always on his mind to do so as soon as he turns up the field.
Why Saints should consider keeping Delvin Breaux at starting cornerback when Keenan Lewis returns | Saints | The New Orleans Advocate — New Orleans, Louisiana
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He had some hiccups Week 1 against the Arizona Cardinals, a game in which he was flagged four times. The reason for the flags, Breaux explained, was the result of resting on the instincts he developed in the Canadian Football League. He quickly fixed those errors and has been almost unbeatable since.

Since that game, Breaux has given up one reception, a 54 yarder, after he lost the ball in the lights and did not receive much assistance from the safety. He’s otherwise largely erased the men he’s covering on every other snap.

Breaux was targeted two other times against Tampa. The first was a go route to wide receiver Mike Evans, but Breaux pinned him to the sideline and forced him out of bounds before he could complete the catch. The second target fell incomplete after Breaux jammed Evans on a crossing route, which forced an incompletion.

The next week against Carolina, Breaux was only targeted once on a go route. He pinned Ted Ginn, who is one of the faster receivers in the NFL, to the sideline and forced an incompletion.

Breaux’s ability to pin receivers to the line, which helps him shrink the field, has been one of his greatest strengths and it’s always on his mind to do so as soon as he turns up the field.
Why Saints should consider keeping Delvin Breaux at starting cornerback when Keenan Lewis returns | Saints | The New Orleans Advocate — New Orleans, Louisiana
The way I would describe Breaux is extremely handsy.

He's staying with the receiver's, alright, but he's either holding or getting away with it on nearly every play, and he fails to turn his head the majority of the time. There's a reason that rules are in place. If you're chucking the WR all the way down the field and watching the receiver everywhere he goes without looking for the ball, it's much easier to stay on him.

I'm not trying to be a debbie downer here, but I have to be honest about it. The thing is, I think he can be good and I've seen a couple of legitimately good plays, but until he learns to play with discipline he's going to hurt us with penalties.

He hadn't been tested much in the last couple games before lastnight, and a lot of that has to do with the teams we've played not being very good in the passing game, and Browner getting abused on the other side.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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