Brandon Browner the Strong Safety?

ChrisXVI · 10-01-2015, 08:39 PM

Ok, here we go...

Nick Underhill was pointing out earlier on Twitter how last season the Patriots would put Browner on the TE and if the TE didn't run a route then Browner would just drop back into zone coverage. With Keenan Lewis coming back this leads me to a few thoughts:

1) Delvin Breaux is rapidly ascending and there's no way his phenomenal play can be ignored for long. He is truly a starter who should be covering the top WR's.

2) Damian Swann is right there in the mix with Breaux. He deserves to be our nickel CB.

3) Kenny Vacarro sucks covering TE's.

In my opinion, Browner is our 4th best CB just in terms of all around ability. If we moved Browner to strong safety he may be an upgrade in coverage over Vacarro and that would make KV trade bait.

mleg1972 · 10-01-2015, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Ok, here we go...

Nick Underhill was pointing out earlier on Twitter how last season the Patriots would put Browner on the TE and if the TE didn't run a route then Browner would just drop back into zone coverage. With Keenan Lewis coming back this leads me to a few thoughts:

1) Delvin Breaux is rapidly ascending and there's no way his phenomenal play can be ignored for long. He is truly a starter who should be covering the top WR's.

2) Damian Swann is right there in the mix with Breaux. He deserves to be our nickel CB.

3) Kenny Vacarro sucks covering TE's.

In my opinion, Browner is our 4th best CB just in terms of all around ability. If we moved Browner to strong safety he may be an upgrade in coverage over Vacarro and that would make KV trade bait.

Just stop, please just stop

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rezburna · 10-01-2015, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Ok, here we go...

Nick Underhill was pointing out earlier on Twitter how last season the Patriots would put Browner on the TE and if the TE didn't run a route then Browner would just drop back into zone coverage. With Keenan Lewis coming back this leads me to a few thoughts:

1) Delvin Breaux is rapidly ascending and there's no way his phenomenal play can be ignored for long. He is truly a starter who should be covering the top WR's.

2) Damian Swann is right there in the mix with Breaux. He deserves to be our nickel CB.

3) Kenny Vacarro sucks covering TE's.

In my opinion, Browner is our 4th best CB just in terms of all around ability. If we moved Browner to strong safety he may be an upgrade in coverage over Vacarro and that would make KV trade bait.

It's truly not a bad idea. It's actually anot excellent idea theoretically. I'd like to see how it goes. I think it could work. Vacarro is nothing like he was his rookie season. We actually miss Malcolm Jenkins as well. So yeah, I like it.

ChrisXVI · 10-01-2015, 09:12 PM

Originally Posted by mleg1972

Just stop, please just stop

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I for one don't like my team's starting CB's to have so many stipulations... "He's a press man CB who needs safety help over the top!" Lewis, Breaux and Swann are all physical and fast enough to not need just the right set of circumstances to be successful.

GeauxForMore · 10-01-2015, 09:13 PM

Browner does not fit our defensive scheme. Once again we take a player who is good at something and use him in a way that he shouldn't be used. Cover press corner. That is what he is. Cover press safety high. He is not a shutdown corner but a very good press corner. Stop putting him in zone with a 5-10 yard cushion. He is not that type of corner. He should be jamming everything in his way period. TE WR RB I don't care, let him interrupt routes and put his hand on people. Now I know he will get flagged, but that is the type of corner he is and what you paid him to be.

ChrisXVI · 10-01-2015, 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by GeauxForMore

Browner does not fit our defensive scheme. Once again we take a player who is good at something and use him in a way that he shouldn't be used. Cover press corner. That is what he is. Cover press safety high. He is not a shutdown corner but a very good press corner. Stop putting him in zone with a 5-10 yard cushion. He is not that type of corner. He should be jamming everything in his way period. TE WR RB I don't care, let him interrupt routes and put his hand on people. Now I know he will get flagged, but that is the type of corner he is and what you paid him to be.

But like I pointed out in my original post, the Patriots used him sometimes as that SS/LB hybrid that covers TE's. We use Vacarro in that role but he sucks covering TE's. We are awful at stopping TE's and Browner could match up very well against them instead of on the outside against some 6 foot WR that runs a 4.3 40.

GeauxForMore · 10-01-2015, 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

But like I pointed out in my original post, the Patriots used him sometimes as that SS/LB hybrid that covers TE's. We use Vacarro in that role but he sucks covering TE's. We are awful at stopping TE's and Browner could match up very well against them instead of on the outside against some 6 foot WR that runs a 4.3 40.

And I can work with that. It's a pretty good idea, but it won't work under this defensive scheme. Moving someone like Browner to a position like that takes a lot of coaching and technique. Something we don't have currently. Damn I hate being so negative with this team.

ChrisXVI · 10-01-2015, 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by GeauxForMore

And I can work with that. It's a pretty good idea, but it won't work under this defensive scheme. Moving someone like Browner to a position like that take a lot a coaching and technique. Something we don't have currently. Damn I hate bring so negative with this team.

You're right. Now that I think about it... We don't have the coaching staff to even remotely do something like that. We just continue to take the square peg-round hole approach.

rezburna · 10-01-2015, 11:12 PM

His transition to safety probably wouldn't be as hard as some think.

nola_swammi · 10-01-2015, 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Ok, here we go...

Nick Underhill was pointing out earlier on Twitter how last season the Patriots would put Browner on the TE and if the TE didn't run a route then Browner would just drop back into zone coverage. With Keenan Lewis coming back this leads me to a few thoughts:

1) Delvin Breaux is rapidly ascending and there's no way his phenomenal play can be ignored for long. He is truly a starter who should be covering the top WR's.

2) Damian Swann is right there in the mix with Breaux. He deserves to be our nickel CB.

3) Kenny Vacarro sucks covering TE's.

In my opinion, Browner is our 4th best CB just in terms of all around ability. If we moved Browner to strong safety he may be an upgrade in coverage over Vacarro and that would make KV trade bait.

I was listening til you said trade KV. That will make no sense. Yes KV was beat by the TE so was Browner. KV is younger and can cover wr, his weakness is playing deep zone.

10-01-2015, 08:39 PM	#1
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Brandon Browner the Strong Safety? Ok, here we go... Nick Underhill was pointing out earlier on Twitter how last season the Patriots would put Browner on the TE and if the TE didn't run a route then Browner would just drop back into zone coverage. With Keenan Lewis coming back this leads me to a few thoughts: 1) Delvin Breaux is rapidly ascending and there's no way his phenomenal play can be ignored for long. He is truly a starter who should be covering the top WR's. 2) Damian Swann is right there in the mix with Breaux. He deserves to be our nickel CB. 3) Kenny Vacarro sucks covering TE's. In my opinion, Browner is our 4th best CB just in terms of all around ability. If we moved Browner to strong safety he may be an upgrade in coverage over Vacarro and that would make KV trade bait. rezburna likes this.

10-01-2015, 09:02 PM	#2
mleg1972 Registered Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 37	Re: Brandon Browner the Strong Safety? Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Ok, here we go... Nick Underhill was pointing out earlier on Twitter how last season the Patriots would put Browner on the TE and if the TE didn't run a route then Browner would just drop back into zone coverage. With Keenan Lewis coming back this leads me to a few thoughts: 1) Delvin Breaux is rapidly ascending and there's no way his phenomenal play can be ignored for long. He is truly a starter who should be covering the top WR's. 2) Damian Swann is right there in the mix with Breaux. He deserves to be our nickel CB. 3) Kenny Vacarro sucks covering TE's. In my opinion, Browner is our 4th best CB just in terms of all around ability. If we moved Browner to strong safety he may be an upgrade in coverage over Vacarro and that would make KV trade bait. Just stop, please just stop Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk Rell&Gold likes this.
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10-01-2015, 09:03 PM	#3
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: Brandon Browner the Strong Safety? Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Ok, here we go... Nick Underhill was pointing out earlier on Twitter how last season the Patriots would put Browner on the TE and if the TE didn't run a route then Browner would just drop back into zone coverage. With Keenan Lewis coming back this leads me to a few thoughts: 1) Delvin Breaux is rapidly ascending and there's no way his phenomenal play can be ignored for long. He is truly a starter who should be covering the top WR's. 2) Damian Swann is right there in the mix with Breaux. He deserves to be our nickel CB. 3) Kenny Vacarro sucks covering TE's. In my opinion, Browner is our 4th best CB just in terms of all around ability. If we moved Browner to strong safety he may be an upgrade in coverage over Vacarro and that would make KV trade bait. It's truly not a bad idea. It's actually anot excellent idea theoretically. I'd like to see how it goes. I think it could work. Vacarro is nothing like he was his rookie season. We actually miss Malcolm Jenkins as well. So yeah, I like it. ChrisXVI likes this.

10-01-2015, 09:12 PM	#4
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Brandon Browner the Strong Safety? Originally Posted by mleg1972 Just stop, please just stop Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk I for one don't like my team's starting CB's to have so many stipulations... "He's a press man CB who needs safety help over the top!" Lewis, Breaux and Swann are all physical and fast enough to not need just the right set of circumstances to be successful. saintsfan1976 likes this.

10-01-2015, 09:13 PM	#5
GeauxForMore 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Panama City, FL Posts: 588	Re: Brandon Browner the Strong Safety? Browner does not fit our defensive scheme. Once again we take a player who is good at something and use him in a way that he shouldn't be used. Cover press corner. That is what he is. Cover press safety high. He is not a shutdown corner but a very good press corner. Stop putting him in zone with a 5-10 yard cushion. He is not that type of corner. He should be jamming everything in his way period. TE WR RB I don't care, let him interrupt routes and put his hand on people. Now I know he will get flagged, but that is the type of corner he is and what you paid him to be. spkb25, neugey, nola_swammi and 2 others like this.

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10-01-2015, 09:22 PM	#6
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Brandon Browner the Strong Safety? Originally Posted by GeauxForMore Browner does not fit our defensive scheme. Once again we take a player who is good at something and use him in a way that he shouldn't be used. Cover press corner. That is what he is. Cover press safety high. He is not a shutdown corner but a very good press corner. Stop putting him in zone with a 5-10 yard cushion. He is not that type of corner. He should be jamming everything in his way period. TE WR RB I don't care, let him interrupt routes and put his hand on people. Now I know he will get flagged, but that is the type of corner he is and what you paid him to be. But like I pointed out in my original post, the Patriots used him sometimes as that SS/LB hybrid that covers TE's. We use Vacarro in that role but he sucks covering TE's. We are awful at stopping TE's and Browner could match up very well against them instead of on the outside against some 6 foot WR that runs a 4.3 40.

10-01-2015, 09:27 PM	#7
GeauxForMore 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Panama City, FL Posts: 588	Re: Brandon Browner the Strong Safety? Originally Posted by ChrisXVI But like I pointed out in my original post, the Patriots used him sometimes as that SS/LB hybrid that covers TE's. We use Vacarro in that role but he sucks covering TE's. We are awful at stopping TE's and Browner could match up very well against them instead of on the outside against some 6 foot WR that runs a 4.3 40. And I can work with that. It's a pretty good idea, but it won't work under this defensive scheme. Moving someone like Browner to a position like that takes a lot of coaching and technique. Something we don't have currently. Damn I hate being so negative with this team. ChrisXVI likes this.

10-01-2015, 09:42 PM	#8
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Brandon Browner the Strong Safety? Originally Posted by GeauxForMore And I can work with that. It's a pretty good idea, but it won't work under this defensive scheme. Moving someone like Browner to a position like that take a lot a coaching and technique. Something we don't have currently. Damn I hate bring so negative with this team. You're right. Now that I think about it... We don't have the coaching staff to even remotely do something like that. We just continue to take the square peg-round hole approach. GeauxForMore likes this.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: Brandon Browner the Strong Safety? His transition to safety probably wouldn't be as hard as some think.

10-01-2015, 11:29 PM	#10
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Brandon Browner the Strong Safety? Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Ok, here we go... Nick Underhill was pointing out earlier on Twitter how last season the Patriots would put Browner on the TE and if the TE didn't run a route then Browner would just drop back into zone coverage. With Keenan Lewis coming back this leads me to a few thoughts: 1) Delvin Breaux is rapidly ascending and there's no way his phenomenal play can be ignored for long. He is truly a starter who should be covering the top WR's. 2) Damian Swann is right there in the mix with Breaux. He deserves to be our nickel CB. 3) Kenny Vacarro sucks covering TE's. In my opinion, Browner is our 4th best CB just in terms of all around ability. If we moved Browner to strong safety he may be an upgrade in coverage over Vacarro and that would make KV trade bait. I was listening til you said trade KV. That will make no sense. Yes KV was beat by the TE so was Browner. KV is younger and can cover wr, his weakness is playing deep zone.

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