Standout stats

brees84 · 10-09-2015, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

I thought the Saints drafted Brandon Cooks as a deep threat. But in 4 games he's only had 3 receptions over 10 yards.

I'm a little disappointed with his perfomances. Watching how Morris Claiborne took him out of the game was very worrisome. And that's not shutdown corner by any means.

halloween 65 · 10-09-2015, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

After 4 games in the 2015 season there are a few stats that jump of the sheets. Here are a few that caught my eye.

Willie Snead-- a undrafted free agent and long shot to make the roster has more receiving yards and TDs than any other WR.

Zero-- the number of interceptions through 4 games.

Mark Ingram-- currently leads the team in receptions and has the highest targets to reception rating.

Brandin Cooks-- has the worst success rating ratio for targets vs receptions.

Rushing attack-- this is the worst rushing offense the Saints have had in the last 10 years.

Best standout stat-- our best defensive player is not only a Linebacker but also a rookie!

Add your own!

Snead has stood out
Cooks is small and dynamic in space but can't beat double teams deep.(to small)
The O-line has problems.
The D-line needs to get more pressure.
Browner needs to be face to face on the line with his man for him to have any sucess.
Kiki- got to like him.
Anthony needs to play much better although he was somewhat better against Dallas but those other 3 games you can draw your own conclusion.
Hard to see a sudden improvement with the O-line as a whole.
The D-line has a chance to get better but want strike fear in better teams.
Our middle is still exposed.

lumm0x · 10-09-2015, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

I thought the Saints drafted Brandon Cooks as a deep threat. But in 4 games he's only had 3 receptions over 10 yards.

We don't have any downfield passing game. With Brees' shoulder we are relegated to 3-15 yard throws. We do need to get Cooks on those shallow crossing rubs where he can make yac.

blackangold · 10-09-2015, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by lumm0x

We don't have any downfield passing game. With Brees' shoulder we are relegated to 3-15 yard throws. We do need to get Cooks on those shallow crossing rubs where he can make yac.

I don't buy that.

Brees can throw a deep ball still. The 30 yd completion to Coleman was a great back shoulder throw that had some zip on it. We just don't call the plays to get it down field and when we do we can't get enough protection.

Beastmode · 10-09-2015, 06:09 PM

1st NFL team with the most rookies starting to win the SB. Not confirmed yet but still on the table.

ScottF · 10-09-2015, 08:53 PM

I have have no documentation for these stats, but we have to be near the bottom in defensive penalty first downs, and third and long conversions against.
Both are backbreakers and the reason we don't give off the field. That, and being 30th in takeaways with a whopping .75 per game avg.

burningmetal · 10-09-2015, 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

I don't buy that.

Brees can throw a deep ball still. The 30 yd completion to Coleman was a great back shoulder throw that had some zip on it. We just don't call the plays to get it down field and when we do we can't get enough protection.

30 yards isn't exactly a bomb, but from my perspective it didn't look like it had much zip on it at all. Coleman was wide open. That's what helped on that whole drive at the end of regulation, is the Cowboys were playing way off our receivers and Drew didn't have to do anything but just get it there any kind of way.

When he has to make a tight throw downfield, he won't even attempt it because it's gonna hang up too long. Aside from velocity issues I don't know how much further he can really get the ball out there, beyond 30 yards. I also didn't think the protection was as horrible as people are saying it was. He got sacked on a couple of occasions where he held the ball forever.

That's been a criticism I've had of him the last couple years. He doesn't get rid of it quickly like he used to. And if no one is open, he needs to just throw it away. McCown did a very good job a couple weeks ago of getting out of the pocket. Instead of just standing there and waiting for something to happen, sometimes you need to buy some time for yourself and get out of the pocket. Drew rarely does that anymore.

hagan714 · 10-09-2015, 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

0 - 2 division record

Yep we painted ourselves into a corner.

0-3 in the division is death sentence. I honestly believe it would be better to loss to in phili to guarantee all hands are as healthy as possible for the falclowns.

So the fact Terron Armstead is ruled out maybe good if the rest gets him on the feild for the falclowns.

Originally Posted by K Major

Penalties rank: 21st

yep love a team of rookies and journeymen

WillSaints81 · 10-10-2015, 02:16 AM

That's what I was thinking too. But if we lose to Atlanta and beat Philadelphia and Indy it's not a death sentence. It would be a death sentence in terms of our rivalry but not for the season.

10-09-2015, 03:32 PM	#11
brees84 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,015	Re: Standout stats Originally Posted by Utah_Saint I thought the Saints drafted Brandon Cooks as a deep threat. But in 4 games he's only had 3 receptions over 10 yards. I'm a little disappointed with his perfomances. Watching how Morris Claiborne took him out of the game was very worrisome. And that's not shutdown corner by any means.
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10-09-2015, 03:42 PM	#12
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Standout stats Originally Posted by blackangold After 4 games in the 2015 season there are a few stats that jump of the sheets. Here are a few that caught my eye. Willie Snead-- a undrafted free agent and long shot to make the roster has more receiving yards and TDs than any other WR. Zero-- the number of interceptions through 4 games. Mark Ingram-- currently leads the team in receptions and has the highest targets to reception rating. Brandin Cooks-- has the worst success rating ratio for targets vs receptions. Rushing attack-- this is the worst rushing offense the Saints have had in the last 10 years. Best standout stat-- our best defensive player is not only a Linebacker but also a rookie! Add your own! Snead has stood out Cooks is small and dynamic in space but can't beat double teams deep.(to small) The O-line has problems. The D-line needs to get more pressure. Browner needs to be face to face on the line with his man for him to have any sucess. Kiki- got to like him. Anthony needs to play much better although he was somewhat better against Dallas but those other 3 games you can draw your own conclusion. Hard to see a sudden improvement with the O-line as a whole. The D-line has a chance to get better but want strike fear in better teams. Our middle is still exposed.

10-09-2015, 05:18 PM	#13
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Re: Standout stats Originally Posted by Utah_Saint I thought the Saints drafted Brandon Cooks as a deep threat. But in 4 games he's only had 3 receptions over 10 yards. We don't have any downfield passing game. With Brees' shoulder we are relegated to 3-15 yard throws. We do need to get Cooks on those shallow crossing rubs where he can make yac. leilung and captainshawn like this.

10-09-2015, 05:33 PM	#14
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Standout stats Originally Posted by lumm0x We don't have any downfield passing game. With Brees' shoulder we are relegated to 3-15 yard throws. We do need to get Cooks on those shallow crossing rubs where he can make yac. I don't buy that. Brees can throw a deep ball still. The 30 yd completion to Coleman was a great back shoulder throw that had some zip on it. We just don't call the plays to get it down field and when we do we can't get enough protection. brees84 likes this.

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10-09-2015, 08:53 PM	#16
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Standout stats I have have no documentation for these stats, but we have to be near the bottom in defensive penalty first downs, and third and long conversions against. Both are backbreakers and the reason we don't give off the field. That, and being 30th in takeaways with a whopping .75 per game avg.

10-09-2015, 10:34 PM	#17
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Standout stats Originally Posted by blackangold I don't buy that. Brees can throw a deep ball still. The 30 yd completion to Coleman was a great back shoulder throw that had some zip on it. We just don't call the plays to get it down field and when we do we can't get enough protection. 30 yards isn't exactly a bomb, but from my perspective it didn't look like it had much zip on it at all. Coleman was wide open. That's what helped on that whole drive at the end of regulation, is the Cowboys were playing way off our receivers and Drew didn't have to do anything but just get it there any kind of way. When he has to make a tight throw downfield, he won't even attempt it because it's gonna hang up too long. Aside from velocity issues I don't know how much further he can really get the ball out there, beyond 30 yards. I also didn't think the protection was as horrible as people are saying it was. He got sacked on a couple of occasions where he held the ball forever. That's been a criticism I've had of him the last couple years. He doesn't get rid of it quickly like he used to. And if no one is open, he needs to just throw it away. McCown did a very good job a couple weeks ago of getting out of the pocket. Instead of just standing there and waiting for something to happen, sometimes you need to buy some time for yourself and get out of the pocket. Drew rarely does that anymore.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

10-09-2015, 11:52 PM	#18
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Standout stats Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 0 - 2 division record Yep we painted ourselves into a corner. 0-3 in the division is death sentence. I honestly believe it would be better to loss to in phili to guarantee all hands are as healthy as possible for the falclowns. So the fact Terron Armstead is ruled out maybe good if the rest gets him on the feild for the falclowns. Originally Posted by K Major Penalties rank: 21st yep love a team of rookies and journeymen

10-10-2015, 02:16 AM	#19
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Standout stats That's what I was thinking too. But if we lose to Atlanta and beat Philadelphia and Indy it's not a death sentence. It would be a death sentence in terms of our rivalry but not for the season.

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