Brandin Cooks Hype

Danno · 10-12-2015, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

Cooks is fast. Colston is sloooooow. At the time Cooks was drafted, Colston, Meachem, Moore, Thomas, Jed Collins (!) -- basically EVERYBODY on the Saints roster who could catch a ball, looked old and tired and slow as molasses, next to NFL defenders. Sproles was fast, but he was gone. Ingram is only fast if he gets rumbling, with like 10 or 20 yards to pick up steam -- he's not explosive. They also brought in Jalen Sanders that same year, who was a marginal contributor, but the only thing you could really say about him was that he was also FAST, not slow.

That's about it. He is small but fast. That jump ball into the end zone against Carolina, Jimmy Graham or a young Marques Colston could have probably come down with it.

Ingram had one of the fastest 10 yard times for RB's in NFL Combine history. Ingram has great burst and short area quickness, he just doesn't have top end speed.

But everything else is pretty much spot on.

brees84 · 10-12-2015, 10:45 AM

john brown - larry fitzgerald
Randal cobb - Jordy Nelson
Brandin Cooks - marques colston

K Major · 10-12-2015, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by brees84

Brandin Cooks - marques colston

I almost feel sorry for Colston. The dude does nothing but work his a#$ off, never complains but his skills have diminished. He didn't even take himself out of the game after he injured his arm. He is a soldier, warrior but unfortunately his time is up.

WillSaints81 · 10-12-2015, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by brees84

john brown - larry fitzgerald
Randal cobb - Jordy Nelson
Brandin Cooks - marques colston

Cobb is one of these things not like the other.......slot receiver

CharityMike · 10-12-2015, 03:07 PM

If Payton is still here next year, anyone wishing for an lsu receiver is just doing that..wishing. this coaching staff has shown zero desire to get anyone from there.

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darstep · 10-14-2015, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

If Payton is still here next year, anyone wishing for an lsu receiver is just doing that..wishing. this coaching staff has shown zero desire to get anyone from there.

They ought to just roll out the red carpet and get some corners and safeties from there.

WillSaints81 · 10-12-2015, 05:52 PM

I mean in terms of the newer guys mentioned. Fitz and Colston, the veterans, are slots.

Beastmode · 10-13-2015, 08:10 PM

Good receiver. Wrong fit. We need a Megatron style WR. Should have man'ed up and got a more industrial style true #1. The results are obvious, too small, gets mauled at the line and speed is a non factor at that point. Also using him on returns, something he has never been good at but once again, Payton puts things on players that do not fit and once again, fail. These small receivers play a role. They will never be a #1. It was tried with Moore. As good as he was he is not that guy and neither is Cooks. Get a real #1 and get a real DT that can at least, make the QB move a few feet.

hagan714 · 10-14-2015, 09:19 AM

The saints drafted one WR since Colston that made an impact. we traded him away.

Cook is a ????? not really sure what kind of WR he is to be honest. The saints WR corp is an enigma wrapped inside a riddle. Now Colston goes down?

Saints need and have needed to address the WR position in the draft for years. Yet we always play that UDFA gem game to fill the roster.

So till Cooks get a supporting cast I can not judge the guy.

lumm0x · 10-14-2015, 10:39 AM

I have no issue with Cooks at all. He has not dropped a lot of balls, he runs precise routes, he is a good person who conducts himself well. It's not his fault defense are allowed to pretty much ignore every other piece of our offense and roll coverage to him. It's not his fault that Drew can't take the top off a defense anymore on a deep ball unless it's a blown coverage. And it's not his fault we run the same predictable end around to him that any defense can identify in seconds.

It's the same issue St Louis had with Tavon Austin. Nothing else to defend so they can easily take him out of the game. Look at how Austin is emerging this year as that team now has more weapons to defend. If we had a legitimate #1 and Jimmy Graham still I bet we would be talking about what a crazy weapon Cooks is. Only downside to that is it would be at the expense of our o-line and defense, not that we are stellar there either but we have drafted some potential nice long term pieces.

10-12-2015, 10:45 AM	#2
brees84 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 3,015	Re: Brandin Cooks Hype john brown - larry fitzgerald Randal cobb - Jordy Nelson Brandin Cooks - marques colston K Major likes this.
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10-12-2015, 10:48 AM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,868 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Brandin Cooks Hype Originally Posted by brees84 Brandin Cooks - marques colston I almost feel sorry for Colston. The dude does nothing but work his a#$ off, never complains but his skills have diminished. He didn't even take himself out of the game after he injured his arm. He is a soldier, warrior but unfortunately his time is up. Danno, Crusader, foreverfan and 2 others like this.

10-12-2015, 05:51 PM	#4
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,285	Re: Brandin Cooks Hype Originally Posted by brees84 john brown - larry fitzgerald Randal cobb - Jordy Nelson Brandin Cooks - marques colston Cobb is one of these things not like the other.......slot receiver

10-12-2015, 03:07 PM	#5
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Brandin Cooks Hype If Payton is still here next year, anyone wishing for an lsu receiver is just doing that..wishing. this coaching staff has shown zero desire to get anyone from there. Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk

10-14-2015, 11:57 AM	#6
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Re: Brandin Cooks Hype Originally Posted by CharityMike If Payton is still here next year, anyone wishing for an lsu receiver is just doing that..wishing. this coaching staff has shown zero desire to get anyone from there. They ought to just roll out the red carpet and get some corners and safeties from there.

10-12-2015, 10:16 AM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Brandin Cooks Hype Originally Posted by SaintsBro Cooks is fast. Colston is sloooooow. At the time Cooks was drafted, Colston, Meachem, Moore, Thomas, Jed Collins (!) -- basically EVERYBODY on the Saints roster who could catch a ball, looked old and tired and slow as molasses, next to NFL defenders. Sproles was fast, but he was gone. Ingram is only fast if he gets rumbling, with like 10 or 20 yards to pick up steam -- he's not explosive. They also brought in Jalen Sanders that same year, who was a marginal contributor, but the only thing you could really say about him was that he was also FAST, not slow. That's about it. He is small but fast. That jump ball into the end zone against Carolina, Jimmy Graham or a young Marques Colston could have probably come down with it. Ingram had one of the fastest 10 yard times for RB's in NFL Combine history. Ingram has great burst and short area quickness, he just doesn't have top end speed. But everything else is pretty much spot on.

10-12-2015, 05:52 PM	#7
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,285	Re: Brandin Cooks Hype I mean in terms of the newer guys mentioned. Fitz and Colston, the veterans, are slots.

10-13-2015, 08:10 PM	#8
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: Brandin Cooks Hype Good receiver. Wrong fit. We need a Megatron style WR. Should have man'ed up and got a more industrial style true #1. The results are obvious, too small, gets mauled at the line and speed is a non factor at that point. Also using him on returns, something he has never been good at but once again, Payton puts things on players that do not fit and once again, fail. These small receivers play a role. They will never be a #1. It was tried with Moore. As good as he was he is not that guy and neither is Cooks. Get a real #1 and get a real DT that can at least, make the QB move a few feet.
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10-14-2015, 09:19 AM	#9
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Brandin Cooks Hype The saints drafted one WR since Colston that made an impact. we traded him away. Cook is a ????? not really sure what kind of WR he is to be honest. The saints WR corp is an enigma wrapped inside a riddle. Now Colston goes down? Saints need and have needed to address the WR position in the draft for years. Yet we always play that UDFA gem game to fill the roster. So till Cooks get a supporting cast I can not judge the guy.

10-14-2015, 10:39 AM	#10
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Re: Brandin Cooks Hype I have no issue with Cooks at all. He has not dropped a lot of balls, he runs precise routes, he is a good person who conducts himself well. It's not his fault defense are allowed to pretty much ignore every other piece of our offense and roll coverage to him. It's not his fault that Drew can't take the top off a defense anymore on a deep ball unless it's a blown coverage. And it's not his fault we run the same predictable end around to him that any defense can identify in seconds. It's the same issue St Louis had with Tavon Austin. Nothing else to defend so they can easily take him out of the game. Look at how Austin is emerging this year as that team now has more weapons to defend. If we had a legitimate #1 and Jimmy Graham still I bet we would be talking about what a crazy weapon Cooks is. Only downside to that is it would be at the expense of our o-line and defense, not that we are stellar there either but we have drafted some potential nice long term pieces. darstep likes this.

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