Random Musings by the Dude

Halo · 10-11-2015, 10:37 PM

OK so your QB is not 100%, even still bruised rotator cuff....
OK so the o-line has aged vets on that play about 75% of their potential from a few years ago...
OK so rookies are trying to rotate on your o-line...
OK so the WR talent poole is about 1/2 what it was even a year ago...

THEN Why come up with a gameplan that forces your QB to hold the ball for 10 seconds for a passing play to develop???

Why jeopardize your partially injured QB?
Why allow your o-line to be exploited drive after drive?
Why put your QB in situations where no one is open and he tries to force it!?

If you know your WR won't get separation, why put them in finesse patterns when timing patterns, slants and fades with quick release is what they can accomplish?

I'm completely confused with our game-plan on offense.

jnormand · 10-11-2015, 10:38 PM

I wish I could disagree. Truth hurts.

CharityMike · 10-11-2015, 10:46 PM

Yep..team is effed, season is effed. Some tough changes have got to be coming but at this point, something drastic needs to be done.

UK_WhoDat · 10-13-2015, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

...But if Payton was a bad HC why did we suck without him during 2012?

Cos Seany baby isn't the only bad coach? The krewe left behind to do the job was also not good.

Barry from MS · 10-13-2015, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

I'm completely confused with our game-plan on offense.

Me, too. Did y'all know that Ingram has more touches (92) than every player on the offense besides Brees with the next closest KRob with 43?

Think about that. Mark Ingram is the center of our offense now.

With our patch-work NFL o-line and a running back who's claim to fame is running behind Bama's NFL-caliber o-line in college, we sit and wonder why we can't outscore anyone.

Rugby Saint II · 10-13-2015, 01:59 PM

OK. I'm willing to admit that the Saints have some room for improvement.

But it's nothing that good coaching can't fix. Sean needs a totally new posse.

xan · 10-13-2015, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

OK so your QB is not 100%, even still bruised rotator cuff....
OK so the o-line has aged vets on that play about 75% of their potential from a few years ago...
OK so rookies are trying to rotate on your o-line...
OK so the WR talent poole is about 1/2 what it was even a year ago...

THEN Why come up with a gameplan that forces your QB to hold the ball for 10 seconds for a passing play to develop???

Why jeopardize your partially injured QB?
Why allow your o-line to be exploited drive after drive?
Why put your QB in situations where no one is open and he tries to force it!?

If you know your WR won't get separation, why put them in finesse patterns when timing patterns, slants and fades with quick release is what they can accomplish?

I'm completely confused with our game-plan on offense.

Is there any way to quadruple like this?

lumm0x · 10-13-2015, 06:23 PM

Sean Payton is a great offensive mind. But I think he came up with some great ideas and hasn't really been innovative since. He just keeps trying to plug new guys into these same schemes. Defenses have caught up with this. Hell Malcolm Jenkins was reading his playbook all day. He knew exactly when we were running a screen, when we were running the ball. We are predictable in formation and personnel.

Sean just keeps trying to do the same things over and over but with lesser personnel and/or diminishing skills from key players.

Danno · 10-13-2015, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

If you know your WR won't get separation, why put them in finesse patterns when timing patterns, slants and fades with quick release is what they can accomplish?

I'm completely confused with our game-plan on offense.

Well you'd be the only one confused. 31 other teams aren't confused at all.

WillSaints81 · 10-13-2015, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

Me, too. Did y'all know that Ingram has more touches (92) than every player on the offense besides Brees with the next closest KRob with 43?

Think about that. Mark Ingram is the center of our offense now.

With our patch-work NFL o-line and a running back who's claim to fame is running behind Bama's NFL-caliber o-line in college, we sit and wonder why we can't outscore anyone.

Ingram is about to play easier run defenses coming up. Arizona, Carolina, and Philadelphia can stop the run. Dallas, Idk.

10-11-2015, 10:37 PM	#11
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,722 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Random Musings by the Dude OK so your QB is not 100%, even still bruised rotator cuff.... OK so the o-line has aged vets on that play about 75% of their potential from a few years ago... OK so rookies are trying to rotate on your o-line... OK so the WR talent poole is about 1/2 what it was even a year ago... THEN Why come up with a gameplan that forces your QB to hold the ball for 10 seconds for a passing play to develop??? Why jeopardize your partially injured QB? Why allow your o-line to be exploited drive after drive? Why put your QB in situations where no one is open and he tries to force it!? If you know your WR won't get separation, why put them in finesse patterns when timing patterns, slants and fades with quick release is what they can accomplish? I'm completely confused with our game-plan on offense. Danno, xan, neugey and 6 others like this.
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10-11-2015, 10:38 PM	#12
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,687	Re: Random Musings by the Dude I wish I could disagree. Truth hurts.

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CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Random Musings by the Dude Yep..team is effed, season is effed. Some tough changes have got to be coming but at this point, something drastic needs to be done. mleg1972 likes this.

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UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 3,984	Re: Random Musings by the Dude Originally Posted by WillSaints81 ...But if Payton was a bad HC why did we suck without him during 2012? Cos Seany baby isn't the only bad coach? The krewe left behind to do the job was also not good.

10-13-2015, 01:10 PM	#15
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Random Musings by the Dude Originally Posted by Halo I'm completely confused with our game-plan on offense. Me, too. Did y'all know that Ingram has more touches (92) than every player on the offense besides Brees with the next closest KRob with 43? Think about that. Mark Ingram is the center of our offense now. With our patch-work NFL o-line and a running back who's claim to fame is running behind Bama's NFL-caliber o-line in college, we sit and wonder why we can't outscore anyone. Halo likes this.

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xan Professor Crab and Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Princeton Posts: 3,371 Blog Entries: 34	Re: Random Musings by the Dude Originally Posted by Halo OK so your QB is not 100%, even still bruised rotator cuff.... OK so the o-line has aged vets on that play about 75% of their potential from a few years ago... OK so rookies are trying to rotate on your o-line... OK so the WR talent poole is about 1/2 what it was even a year ago... THEN Why come up with a gameplan that forces your QB to hold the ball for 10 seconds for a passing play to develop??? Why jeopardize your partially injured QB? Why allow your o-line to be exploited drive after drive? Why put your QB in situations where no one is open and he tries to force it!? If you know your WR won't get separation, why put them in finesse patterns when timing patterns, slants and fades with quick release is what they can accomplish? I'm completely confused with our game-plan on offense. Is there any way to quadruple like this? Halo and neugey like this.

10-13-2015, 06:23 PM	#18
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Re: Random Musings by the Dude Sean Payton is a great offensive mind. But I think he came up with some great ideas and hasn't really been innovative since. He just keeps trying to plug new guys into these same schemes. Defenses have caught up with this. Hell Malcolm Jenkins was reading his playbook all day. He knew exactly when we were running a screen, when we were running the ball. We are predictable in formation and personnel. Sean just keeps trying to do the same things over and over but with lesser personnel and/or diminishing skills from key players. Halo and Danno like this.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: Random Musings by the Dude Originally Posted by Halo If you know your WR won't get separation, why put them in finesse patterns when timing patterns, slants and fades with quick release is what they can accomplish? I'm completely confused with our game-plan on offense. Well you'd be the only one confused. 31 other teams aren't confused at all. Halo, neugey and RailBoss like this.

10-13-2015, 06:45 PM	#20
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Random Musings by the Dude Originally Posted by Barry from MS Me, too. Did y'all know that Ingram has more touches (92) than every player on the offense besides Brees with the next closest KRob with 43? Think about that. Mark Ingram is the center of our offense now. With our patch-work NFL o-line and a running back who's claim to fame is running behind Bama's NFL-caliber o-line in college, we sit and wonder why we can't outscore anyone. Ingram is about to play easier run defenses coming up. Arizona, Carolina, and Philadelphia can stop the run. Dallas, Idk.

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