Will you root for the L.A. Saints?

spkb25 · 02-14-2005, 08:02 PM

cheram its nice to hear from you. your the first guy to welcome me on this board. thanks bro

cardboardboxer · 02-14-2005, 08:46 PM

o1, didn\'t you and I talk about Austin before? Did you go to that Saints bar I told you about?

I\'ve seen it. It has the big Saints helmet on the top. Everytime I see it I swell with pride.

If the Saints move to L.A. not only will I not root for them....I won\'t watch the NFL anymore. I already have a problem with a sport that rewards such ignorant people when teachers don\'t make enough money. But the Saints give me something to share with my family (as I am in Texas and they are in NO). If that goes away, screw the NFL and the boat it comes in on.

There is always college football. Go Aggies!

spkb25 · 02-14-2005, 08:52 PM

i can understand ur argument but i would always watch the nfl. im just not sure who at that point i would watch

saintswhodi · 02-14-2005, 09:47 PM

Honestly spk, I believe it has little to do with anything about minorities, it\'s about education, or lack of it in the state in general. The public education system is a joke, I know because I went to Catholic school until 8th grade at De La Salle in New Orleans then on to public school where I graduated From Kennedy in 1992. I never learned another thing from 8th grade at De La Salle through graduating. That\'s how bad it is. The few who do get an education wanna leave ASAP. You can\'t survive as a state if the people who live there feel they don\'t have the opportunities in their home state that they would have elsewhere. This leads to the lack of homegrown businessmen and professionals. Also, anyone who has a business knows if you come to LA, you have to deal with backdoor politics, and companies aren\'t willing to do those kinds deals any more. Like I said, the state would have to do a 180 on it\'s economics and politics to even get mentioned for another team. and we all KNOW that ain\'t happening, at least on the politics end.

Hey cardboard, you live in Austin? Whereabouts? So you have seen Shoal Creek?

LB, I don\'t think Archie, Peyton and Eli together have what it takes to keep the team here, but Archie may have enough connections to get a group together to buy if push came to shove. As he seems to have no interest or expressed any, I don\'t see it happening.

Cheramie, unfortunately that id the reality as I see it if this team leaves. No more Superbowls, no more NFL in New Orleans. Benson holds this and many other blackmail cards over the state. I don\'t like it, but it\'s a tough spot to be in. IT would get slightly better if Minnesota was moved to Los Angeles, but that is still years off if that happens.

turbo_dog · 02-14-2005, 09:54 PM

Nope.

papz · 02-14-2005, 10:26 PM

Saintswhoadi... look at the economy in our state and we managed to bring an NBA team here. If we brought the Hornets down here, why couldn\'t we get an expansion team? This a football town I don\'t see why it couldn\'t happen. If some rich douche decided to get a team here and not have all sorts of stadium and money demands, I think it can and will happen if the Saints leave. Just leave our name so we don\'t have to be called the \"alligators\" or \"pelicans.\" I would jump off the highrise if that were to happen.

Saint_LB · 02-15-2005, 12:04 AM

SW, I guess you thought I was being serious. I was afraid of that. Archie could make it happen easily, but there are at least two reasons why that would never happen. First of all, this whole b/s of Benson selling to an L.A. investment group, or whatever, is exactly that...b/s. What it is is a car salesman being a car salesman. Secondly, Archie would want to win, and he knows that that ain\'t ever gonna happen in N.O. I think he knows that better than any person on this planet could know. Now if we were talking the NY Giants...

Tobias-Reiper · 02-15-2005, 09:00 AM

..well, I live in the Carolinas now, so I would turn my full attention to the Panthers...

saintswhodi · 02-15-2005, 09:13 AM

papz, the situation with the Hornets was just luck. They wanted a new stadium in Charlotte AND they had a shrinking fan base. New Orleans had just built an arena and was longing for an NBA team. The timing was just right. And Charlotte was not expansion, which we would be talking about if we were to get another NFL team. But I betcha the owner of the Hornets is regretting the move cause the stadium is still empty and they are talking of moving again. Add to that the fact it is easier to move an NBA team than an NFL franchise, and you can see clearly why an NBA team could come here, but it just wouldn\'t happen for an NFL team. ADD to THAT the fact that there are numerous cities more viable clamoring for an NFL team, Las Vegas, San Antonio to name a couple, and we would be so far down the line we couldn\'t see out of the hole. The NFL has a neat 32 teams right now, makes everything real easy. Why do you think the commish doesn\'t go overboard talking about just putting an expansion team into L.A.? Because he would rather move an existing team and keep the # at 32. I am sorry papz, but if you feel New Orleans would get another NFL team if the Saints leave, I think you are fooling yourself.

papz · 02-15-2005, 09:26 AM

I think it\'s realistic if the Hornets leave. Obviously this isn\'t a basketball town and seats just aren\'t being filled. I think eventually when the Hornets move and if the Saints move also, I\'m pretty sure we\'ll manage to get another team down here. I know a lot of people who sacrifice buying extra sets of Saints season tickets because they are obligated to purchase Hornets and Saints season tickets. They don\'t even attend the Hornets games. I think more fans and tickets will be sold if the Hornets were to leave town. Making any possibility more reachable because more money for a football team will be there.

By no means am I serious about the Saints going though, nor do I want them to leave. I\'m just stating things happen and if the Hornets leave, it can only increase the chances of us landing another franchise IF the Saints were to leave.

02-14-2005, 08:02 PM	#21
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,093	Will you root for the L.A. Saints? cheram its nice to hear from you. your the first guy to welcome me on this board. thanks bro

02-14-2005, 08:46 PM	#22
cardboardboxer Registered Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 65	Will you root for the L.A. Saints? o1, didn\'t you and I talk about Austin before? Did you go to that Saints bar I told you about? I\'ve seen it. It has the big Saints helmet on the top. Everytime I see it I swell with pride. If the Saints move to L.A. not only will I not root for them....I won\'t watch the NFL anymore. I already have a problem with a sport that rewards such ignorant people when teachers don\'t make enough money. But the Saints give me something to share with my family (as I am in Texas and they are in NO). If that goes away, screw the NFL and the boat it comes in on. There is always college football. Go Aggies!
cardboardboxer Registered Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 65

02-14-2005, 08:52 PM	#23
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,093	Will you root for the L.A. Saints? i can understand ur argument but i would always watch the nfl. im just not sure who at that point i would watch

02-14-2005, 09:47 PM	#24
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Will you root for the L.A. Saints? Honestly spk, I believe it has little to do with anything about minorities, it\'s about education, or lack of it in the state in general. The public education system is a joke, I know because I went to Catholic school until 8th grade at De La Salle in New Orleans then on to public school where I graduated From Kennedy in 1992. I never learned another thing from 8th grade at De La Salle through graduating. That\'s how bad it is. The few who do get an education wanna leave ASAP. You can\'t survive as a state if the people who live there feel they don\'t have the opportunities in their home state that they would have elsewhere. This leads to the lack of homegrown businessmen and professionals. Also, anyone who has a business knows if you come to LA, you have to deal with backdoor politics, and companies aren\'t willing to do those kinds deals any more. Like I said, the state would have to do a 180 on it\'s economics and politics to even get mentioned for another team. and we all KNOW that ain\'t happening, at least on the politics end. Hey cardboard, you live in Austin? Whereabouts? So you have seen Shoal Creek? LB, I don\'t think Archie, Peyton and Eli together have what it takes to keep the team here, but Archie may have enough connections to get a group together to buy if push came to shove. As he seems to have no interest or expressed any, I don\'t see it happening. Cheramie, unfortunately that id the reality as I see it if this team leaves. No more Superbowls, no more NFL in New Orleans. Benson holds this and many other blackmail cards over the state. I don\'t like it, but it\'s a tough spot to be in. IT would get slightly better if Minnesota was moved to Los Angeles, but that is still years off if that happens.

02-14-2005, 09:54 PM	#25
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,576	Will you root for the L.A. Saints? Nope.

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02-14-2005, 10:26 PM	#26
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,737	Will you root for the L.A. Saints? Saintswhoadi... look at the economy in our state and we managed to bring an NBA team here. If we brought the Hornets down here, why couldn\'t we get an expansion team? This a football town I don\'t see why it couldn\'t happen. If some rich douche decided to get a team here and not have all sorts of stadium and money demands, I think it can and will happen if the Saints leave. Just leave our name so we don\'t have to be called the \"alligators\" or \"pelicans.\" I would jump off the highrise if that were to happen.
	Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege. All little common sense goes a long way.

02-15-2005, 12:04 AM	#27
Saint_LB Deuce Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,894	Will you root for the L.A. Saints? SW, I guess you thought I was being serious. I was afraid of that. Archie could make it happen easily, but there are at least two reasons why that would never happen. First of all, this whole b/s of Benson selling to an L.A. investment group, or whatever, is exactly that...b/s. What it is is a car salesman being a car salesman. Secondly, Archie would want to win, and he knows that that ain\'t ever gonna happen in N.O. I think he knows that better than any person on this planet could know. Now if we were talking the NY Giants...
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02-15-2005, 09:00 AM	#28
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Will you root for the L.A. Saints? ..well, I live in the Carolinas now, so I would turn my full attention to the Panthers...

02-15-2005, 09:13 AM	#29
saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	Will you root for the L.A. Saints? papz, the situation with the Hornets was just luck. They wanted a new stadium in Charlotte AND they had a shrinking fan base. New Orleans had just built an arena and was longing for an NBA team. The timing was just right. And Charlotte was not expansion, which we would be talking about if we were to get another NFL team. But I betcha the owner of the Hornets is regretting the move cause the stadium is still empty and they are talking of moving again. Add to that the fact it is easier to move an NBA team than an NFL franchise, and you can see clearly why an NBA team could come here, but it just wouldn\'t happen for an NFL team. ADD to THAT the fact that there are numerous cities more viable clamoring for an NFL team, Las Vegas, San Antonio to name a couple, and we would be so far down the line we couldn\'t see out of the hole. The NFL has a neat 32 teams right now, makes everything real easy. Why do you think the commish doesn\'t go overboard talking about just putting an expansion team into L.A.? Because he would rather move an existing team and keep the # at 32. I am sorry papz, but if you feel New Orleans would get another NFL team if the Saints leave, I think you are fooling yourself.

02-15-2005, 09:26 AM	#30
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,737	Will you root for the L.A. Saints? I think it\'s realistic if the Hornets leave. Obviously this isn\'t a basketball town and seats just aren\'t being filled. I think eventually when the Hornets move and if the Saints move also, I\'m pretty sure we\'ll manage to get another team down here. I know a lot of people who sacrifice buying extra sets of Saints season tickets because they are obligated to purchase Hornets and Saints season tickets. They don\'t even attend the Hornets games. I think more fans and tickets will be sold if the Hornets were to leave town. Making any possibility more reachable because more money for a football team will be there. By no means am I serious about the Saints going though, nor do I want them to leave. I\'m just stating things happen and if the Hornets leave, it can only increase the chances of us landing another franchise IF the Saints were to leave.
	Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege. All little common sense goes a long way.