Hocker

lumm0x · 10-16-2015, 10:45 AM

Oh the days when we had a clutch guy like Morten or even Carney from inside the 40. We took it for granted when a FG was almost an automatic.

Whoever said it is right, the talent pool of kickers has diminished. There are not more guys who are with the same team for 10+ years anymore. It's a couple years and done it seems for everyone. That is a position that is tied so much to confidence and just streaky consistency in the set up.

hagan714 · 10-16-2015, 11:57 AM

0-29 3 - 3
30-39 4 - 5
40-49 1 - 3
50+ 1 - 2

9-13 over all

serviceable but stats for 40-49 must be watched.

darstep · 10-16-2015, 12:16 PM

Yep. We have to get the 3 when kicking from inside the 40.
When those start coming up zeros too often he has to go.
When those efforts come away with no points, it starts to weigh on team confidence
and decision making in that part of the field.

Mardigras9 · 10-16-2015, 12:28 PM

Two missed FGs would have been huge in a typical Saints/Falcons game that is usually decided by 3 points, I cut him some slack with the game winner miss as a rookie, but those two misses are worrisome.
Ingram going, I see those comments points. Robinson looks good, runs downhill, and one guy usually doesn't stop him. Ingram got stood up pretty frequently last night and only seems to run downhill when they are near the endzone. But Hocker is the pressing issue for now.

blackangold · 10-16-2015, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

0-29 3 - 3
30-39 4 - 5
40-49 1 - 3
50+ 1 - 2

9-13 over all

serviceable but stats for 40-49 must be watched.

How is 69.2% considered serviceable?

If I only did 69% of my job I wouldn't get a paycheck.

spkb25 · 10-16-2015, 12:54 PM

here is the thing, the miss in the Cowboys game could have cost us the game. The two misses last night could have cost us, that is effectively taking a td OFF THE BOARD. hE NEEDS TO GET HIS **** TOGETHER. hE NEEDS TO MAKE 51 YARD FG'S.

K Major · 10-16-2015, 01:00 PM

I don't trust him.

Rugby Saint II · 10-16-2015, 01:12 PM

I didn't think he won the kicking job coming out of camp.

ScottF · 10-16-2015, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

0-29 3 - 3
30-39 4 - 5
40-49 1 - 3
50+ 1 - 2

9-13 over all

serviceable but stats for 40-49 must be watched.

add a blocked EP and the fact that all 4 misses were at home and 'serviceable' becomes 'expendable'

exile · 10-16-2015, 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by SloMotion

Talent pool is thin, kickers all over the league have been screwing up for a few seasons now, just sayin'.

I hear that this Dustin Hopkins guy has only missed 1 FG this year. And that was a 50+ yard one. I sure wish we could stumble upon someone like that. Just unlucky I guess. Can't even get someone like that into camp. Or can we?

10-16-2015, 10:45 AM	#21
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Re: Hocker Oh the days when we had a clutch guy like Morten or even Carney from inside the 40. We took it for granted when a FG was almost an automatic. Whoever said it is right, the talent pool of kickers has diminished. There are not more guys who are with the same team for 10+ years anymore. It's a couple years and done it seems for everyone. That is a position that is tied so much to confidence and just streaky consistency in the set up.

10-16-2015, 11:57 AM	#22
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Hocker 0-29 3 - 3 30-39 4 - 5 40-49 1 - 3 50+ 1 - 2 9-13 over all serviceable but stats for 40-49 must be watched.

10-16-2015, 12:16 PM	#23
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Re: Hocker Yep. We have to get the 3 when kicking from inside the 40. When those start coming up zeros too often he has to go. When those efforts come away with no points, it starts to weigh on team confidence and decision making in that part of the field.

10-16-2015, 12:28 PM	#24
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Hocker Two missed FGs would have been huge in a typical Saints/Falcons game that is usually decided by 3 points, I cut him some slack with the game winner miss as a rookie, but those two misses are worrisome. Ingram going, I see those comments points. Robinson looks good, runs downhill, and one guy usually doesn't stop him. Ingram got stood up pretty frequently last night and only seems to run downhill when they are near the endzone. But Hocker is the pressing issue for now.

10-16-2015, 12:49 PM	#25
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Hocker Originally Posted by hagan714 0-29 3 - 3 30-39 4 - 5 40-49 1 - 3 50+ 1 - 2 9-13 over all serviceable but stats for 40-49 must be watched. How is 69.2% considered serviceable? If I only did 69% of my job I wouldn't get a paycheck.

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: Hocker here is the thing, the miss in the Cowboys game could have cost us the game. The two misses last night could have cost us, that is effectively taking a td OFF THE BOARD. hE NEEDS TO GET HIS **** TOGETHER. hE NEEDS TO MAKE 51 YARD FG'S. brees84 likes this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Hocker I don't trust him.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: Hocker I didn't think he won the kicking job coming out of camp. spkb25, exile and brees84 like this.

10-16-2015, 01:16 PM	#29
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Hocker Originally Posted by hagan714 0-29 3 - 3 30-39 4 - 5 40-49 1 - 3 50+ 1 - 2 9-13 over all serviceable but stats for 40-49 must be watched. add a blocked EP and the fact that all 4 misses were at home and 'serviceable' becomes 'expendable' brees84 likes this.

10-16-2015, 03:06 PM	#30
exile Cake or Death? Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,608	Re: Hocker Originally Posted by SloMotion Talent pool is thin, kickers all over the league have been screwing up for a few seasons now, just sayin'. I hear that this Dustin Hopkins guy has only missed 1 FG this year. And that was a 50+ yard one. I sure wish we could stumble upon someone like that. Just unlucky I guess. Can't even get someone like that into camp. Or can we?
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