Bringing up the Joe Vitt issue again

SmashMouth · 10-23-2015, 07:19 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Am bringing up Joe Vitt's competency again because I was discussing the play of Stephone Anthony and Hau'oli Kikaha and whether their respective games have continued to develop and progress...

While they're only rookies and still in the first few games of their young careers, question arose whether they'd continued to progress or if they were still trying to get by on their natural physical talents...

While it's not popular with some, I've argued Joe Vitt (along with DLC Bill Johnson and STC Greg McMahon) are liabilities and should be replaced...

Additionally, while I think Dennis Allen is a superb Secondary Coach/Coordinator, it's a mistake though having a two-headed monster coordinating the defense; two messages, confuses players...

jeanpierre · 10-24-2015, 10:49 PM

Well if the quality of team tackling is a reflection of the coaching, and I'd say it is, then Vitt, along with the other defensive coaches (& special teams) need to be relieved of their duties...

Tobias-Reiper · 10-25-2015, 06:45 PM

Ah! Joe Vitt. The Mark Ingram of coaching.

Between 2006 and 2014, the best 3 LBs in B&G have been Vilma, Fujita, and Shanle. Go ahead, make a list of the rest, and try to put together 1 good LB, mixing up all of them.

This season, the Saints got Kikaha, Anthony, Ellerbe... and they are balling. But no, let's argue that Joe Vitt sucks, and that this LB lineup will be hindered by Vitt, given how many All-Pro LBs' careers and development he's screwed up.

10-23-2015, 07:19 AM	#21
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,125 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Bringing up the Joe Vitt issue again Originally Posted by jeanpierre Am bringing up Joe Vitt's competency again because I was discussing the play of Stephone Anthony and Hau'oli Kikaha and whether their respective games have continued to develop and progress... While they're only rookies and still in the first few games of their young careers, question arose whether they'd continued to progress or if they were still trying to get by on their natural physical talents... While it's not popular with some, I've argued Joe Vitt (along with DLC Bill Johnson and STC Greg McMahon) are liabilities and should be replaced... Additionally, while I think Dennis Allen is a superb Secondary Coach/Coordinator, it's a mistake though having a two-headed monster coordinating the defense; two messages, confuses players...

10-24-2015, 10:49 PM	#22
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Bringing up the Joe Vitt issue again Well if the quality of team tackling is a reflection of the coaching, and I'd say it is, then Vitt, along with the other defensive coaches (& special teams) need to be relieved of their duties...

10-25-2015, 06:45 PM	#23
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Bringing up the Joe Vitt issue again Ah! Joe Vitt. The Mark Ingram of coaching. Between 2006 and 2014, the best 3 LBs in B&G have been Vilma, Fujita, and Shanle. Go ahead, make a list of the rest, and try to put together 1 good LB, mixing up all of them. This season, the Saints got Kikaha, Anthony, Ellerbe... and they are balling. But no, let's argue that Joe Vitt sucks, and that this LB lineup will be hindered by Vitt, given how many All-Pro LBs' careers and development he's screwed up.

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