Rob Ryan Fired, Dennis Allen new DC

11-17-2015, 09:43 AM

nothing will change, in a way rob is not fired he will draw a salary till contract runs out. being a non working employee he will have his insurance revoked and put on harp/Obama care. may all your dreams come true rob. I liked the hire at first, then you lost the players with your non-accountability /it will be alright guy it will come to you, right when hell freezes over. good luck whenever you drop that baby or turd that's in that garage.

saintfan · 11-17-2015, 12:29 PM

Regarding Browner, I wonder if, now, we'll use him more to his strengths and get better results? I honestly don't know. Maybe some of you X and O folks can chime in, but it seems like, as per our usual, we were asking him to play a roll he wasn't really suited for?

RaginCajun83 · 11-17-2015, 12:59 PM

(no expert) from what I've read Browner is best when covering a Tight End or playing man to man with safety help over the top. Ryan had him as an outside corner playing zone most of the time. Huh?

As long as Byrd is now not 30 yards off the line of scrimmage then I know they are trying to improve

Danno · 11-17-2015, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by darstep

The players make plays.
Rob is gone now. Anybody thinking these guy's skill sets will improve?
They will still be slow and unable to cover.
They still won't be able to control the line of scrimmage.
And they still can't tackle.
I'm hoping they don't kill Allen's chances at getting a fair shake.
Maybe 5-6 keepers out of 25.
And we are broke.
All the Best Rob!

Disagree

Jordan
Jenkins
Anthony
Kikaha
Lewis
Swann
Breaux
Bush
Byrd
Ellerbe
Hawthorne

And I'd even say to a lesser extent...
KWilliams
Richardson
Davison
Edebali
Vaccaro

And who knows about PJ Williams, Glenn Foster, Vinnie Sunseri and Davis Tull.

darstep · 11-17-2015, 06:03 PM

5-6 keepers was a bit conservative. I might go to 8.
Jordan, Anthony, Kikaha, Edabali, Hawthorne, Lewis, Browner(if zone),
and just roll the dice on the 8th.
The rookies are balling most every week.
Having a good week and then disappearing for 2 weeks just won't cut it.
There has to be a pillar that can be counted on every week so we can build around it.
No consistency week to week; except the need to score +30 to stay in the game.
If suddenly these guys get new life and start doing what they haven't been able to do for 10 weeks,
there are other things going on and some soul searching is in order.

RaginCajun83 · 11-17-2015, 06:07 PM

Browner is trash in zone, as we've seen week in and week out here

skymike · 11-17-2015, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by NonieT

I know it had to be done but I feel terrible. I liked Ryan.

everybody really likes RR. He's a guys guy.... hes cool, and you can
have a beer with him. I wish he had better luck.

skymike · 11-17-2015, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by foreverfan

Saints won't lose this week.

Yes, but the Defense will still give up over 400 yards &
4 TD passes.

RaginCajun83 · 11-17-2015, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by skymike

Yes, but the Defense will still give up over 400 yards &
4 TD passes.

And to Bye Week no less, damn this D can't buy a 3 and out

Audiotom · 11-19-2015, 12:45 AM

Originally Posted by Barry from MS

If Allen can light a fire under D-Line coach Johnson, LB coach Vitt, secondary coach McGriff, and the rest of the defensive staff to get accountability from each of them, maybe we'll have something on defense. Ryan couldn't or wouldn't do this with the staff...too nice a guy, I reckon.

Our remaining defensive coaching staff is lazy garbage...that's a factor for why we're 32nd. Our players (veterans & rookies alike) look lost. It just seems Vitt & Johnson are "Made Men Capos" in the Payton Regime and not much will change until accountability happens with the defensive coaching staff. Just my opinion.

There is no responsibility, no accountability

Sean has no passion for the game and is showing no emotions towards the problems that need fixing

This weeks comments

"Well, we didn't check iff one box on the list of things to accomplish"

Bring Jim Mora back

11-17-2015, 09:43 AM	#41
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11-17-2015, 12:29 PM	#42
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Rob Ryan Fired, Dennis Allen new DC Regarding Browner, I wonder if, now, we'll use him more to his strengths and get better results? I honestly don't know. Maybe some of you X and O folks can chime in, but it seems like, as per our usual, we were asking him to play a roll he wasn't really suited for?

11-17-2015, 12:59 PM	#43
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Rob Ryan Fired, Dennis Allen new DC (no expert) from what I've read Browner is best when covering a Tight End or playing man to man with safety help over the top. Ryan had him as an outside corner playing zone most of the time. Huh? As long as Byrd is now not 30 yards off the line of scrimmage then I know they are trying to improve SaintsBro likes this.

11-17-2015, 01:31 PM	#44
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Rob Ryan Fired, Dennis Allen new DC Originally Posted by darstep The players make plays. Rob is gone now. Anybody thinking these guy's skill sets will improve? They will still be slow and unable to cover. They still won't be able to control the line of scrimmage. And they still can't tackle. I'm hoping they don't kill Allen's chances at getting a fair shake. Maybe 5-6 keepers out of 25. And we are broke. All the Best Rob! Disagree Jordan Jenkins Anthony Kikaha Lewis Swann Breaux Bush Byrd Ellerbe Hawthorne And I'd even say to a lesser extent... KWilliams Richardson Davison Edebali Vaccaro And who knows about PJ Williams, Glenn Foster, Vinnie Sunseri and Davis Tull. CharityMike and Mr.Riaton like this.

11-17-2015, 06:03 PM	#45
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Re: Rob Ryan Fired, Dennis Allen new DC 5-6 keepers was a bit conservative. I might go to 8. Jordan, Anthony, Kikaha, Edabali, Hawthorne, Lewis, Browner(if zone), and just roll the dice on the 8th. The rookies are balling most every week. Having a good week and then disappearing for 2 weeks just won't cut it. There has to be a pillar that can be counted on every week so we can build around it. No consistency week to week; except the need to score +30 to stay in the game. If suddenly these guys get new life and start doing what they haven't been able to do for 10 weeks, there are other things going on and some soul searching is in order.
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11-17-2015, 06:07 PM	#46
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Rob Ryan Fired, Dennis Allen new DC Browner is trash in zone, as we've seen week in and week out here

11-17-2015, 08:15 PM	#47
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Rob Ryan Fired, Dennis Allen new DC Originally Posted by NonieT I know it had to be done but I feel terrible. I liked Ryan. everybody really likes RR. He's a guys guy.... hes cool, and you can have a beer with him. I wish he had better luck.

11-17-2015, 08:17 PM	#48
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Rob Ryan Fired, Dennis Allen new DC Originally Posted by foreverfan Saints won't lose this week. Yes, but the Defense will still give up over 400 yards & 4 TD passes.

11-17-2015, 08:54 PM	#49
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Rob Ryan Fired, Dennis Allen new DC Originally Posted by skymike Yes, but the Defense will still give up over 400 yards & 4 TD passes. And to Bye Week no less, damn this D can't buy a 3 and out CharityMike likes this.

11-19-2015, 12:45 AM	#50
Audiotom 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 1,094 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Rob Ryan Fired, Dennis Allen new DC Originally Posted by Barry from MS If Allen can light a fire under D-Line coach Johnson, LB coach Vitt, secondary coach McGriff, and the rest of the defensive staff to get accountability from each of them, maybe we'll have something on defense. Ryan couldn't or wouldn't do this with the staff...too nice a guy, I reckon. Our remaining defensive coaching staff is lazy garbage...that's a factor for why we're 32nd. Our players (veterans & rookies alike) look lost. It just seems Vitt & Johnson are "Made Men Capos" in the Payton Regime and not much will change until accountability happens with the defensive coaching staff. Just my opinion. There is no responsibility, no accountability Sean has no passion for the game and is showing no emotions towards the problems that need fixing This weeks comments "Well, we didn't check iff one box on the list of things to accomplish" Bring Jim Mora back

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