The Real Question about the Defense...

The Dude · 11-17-2015, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

What they do or what I would like to see? What I would like to see is a switch to a 3-4 and let the lb.ers crash in(blitz) and see who needs to stay and who needs to go on the front line and lbers. Our front 7 hasn't played well for awhile and unless Suh is coming to town tomorrow they aint. Switching now lets us see what we need on those 2 lines then I think our secondary(with Browner) would be hard to contend with. Worst comes to worst we get a great top 5 pick out of the deal. Win, win in my book.

We actually have talent in the backfield, yes even Browner. We addressed too much of one problem and not enough of the other this offseason. If our line could generate a respectable pass rush that the DBs could count on we would be one interception churning machine.

Of course during the offseason everyone will cry to rebuild the backfield when they are just a symptom of the real problem.

leilung · 11-18-2015, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

What they do or what I would like to see? What I would like to see is a switch to a 3-4 and let the lb.ers crash in(blitz) and see who needs to stay and who needs to go on the front line and lbers. Our front 7 hasn't played well for awhile and unless Suh is coming to town tomorrow they aint. Switching now lets us see what we need on those 2 lines then I think our secondary(with Browner) would be hard to contend with. Worst comes to worst we get a great top 5 pick out of the deal. Win, win in my book.

How can a 3-4 work without a load to play NT? Just curious as to what is to be accomplished by throwing an already confused D into more confusion.

Barry from MS · 11-17-2015, 07:00 PM

Play team defense = Discipline
Beat the man in front of you = Attitude

Add them together is Balance. Dennis Allen must channel Obi Won & Yoda with this defense and get this Balance.

Half jokin'..half serious, here...

hagan714 · 11-17-2015, 08:01 PM

gap assignment and discipline in rush lanes

man coverage unless Dennis does away with the 7 to 10 yard cushions.

single safety in Rob's system was a huge failure.

MarchingOn · 11-17-2015, 08:31 PM

We're getting killed by passes to the TE. We're getting killed by Browner's penalties and coverage deficiencies.

So, put Browner on the TE all game?

CharityMike · 11-17-2015, 11:48 PM

Originally Posted by MarchingOn

We're getting killed by passes to the TE. We're getting killed by Browner's penalties and coverage deficiencies.

So, put Browner on the TE all game?

Unfortunately as long as Mauti/Dunbar/Hawthorne or Humber is playing, we are still gonna suck at defending the TE

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The Dude · 11-18-2015, 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

Unfortunately as long as Mauti/Dunbar/Hawthorne or Humber is playing, we are still gonna suck at defending the TE

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Nothing wrong with Humber when he has a cast. Hes a legit starter. The others a backups on other teams at best.

hagan714 · 11-18-2015, 08:34 AM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

Unfortunately as long as Mauti/Dunbar/Hawthorne or Humber is playing, we are still gonna suck at defending the TE

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I basically agree with this statement. I would like to add if the saints defense is to stay so bad will the saints stop cutting promising young talent when they sign them. We have had some solid prospects roll through the door only to see them get the axe days later for aging vets

look if I am to suffer through this I want to see progress at the very least depth wise some where,some how on this defense.

I can handle 30 points a game if the stable is loading up with a bunch of young colts. what i can not handle is 30 points a game with nothing but of aging old mares in the stable.

AllSaints · 11-17-2015, 08:49 PM

Blitz..... Then blitz sum more and if all else fails.... Blitz again....

foreverfan · 11-17-2015, 08:49 PM

Just never punt again.

11-17-2015, 06:53 PM	#1
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: The Real Question about the Defense... Originally Posted by halloween 65 What they do or what I would like to see? What I would like to see is a switch to a 3-4 and let the lb.ers crash in(blitz) and see who needs to stay and who needs to go on the front line and lbers. Our front 7 hasn't played well for awhile and unless Suh is coming to town tomorrow they aint. Switching now lets us see what we need on those 2 lines then I think our secondary(with Browner) would be hard to contend with. Worst comes to worst we get a great top 5 pick out of the deal. Win, win in my book. We actually have talent in the backfield, yes even Browner. We addressed too much of one problem and not enough of the other this offseason. If our line could generate a respectable pass rush that the DBs could count on we would be one interception churning machine. Of course during the offseason everyone will cry to rebuild the backfield when they are just a symptom of the real problem.
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11-18-2015, 10:06 AM	#2
leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,421	Re: The Real Question about the Defense... Originally Posted by halloween 65 What they do or what I would like to see? What I would like to see is a switch to a 3-4 and let the lb.ers crash in(blitz) and see who needs to stay and who needs to go on the front line and lbers. Our front 7 hasn't played well for awhile and unless Suh is coming to town tomorrow they aint. Switching now lets us see what we need on those 2 lines then I think our secondary(with Browner) would be hard to contend with. Worst comes to worst we get a great top 5 pick out of the deal. Win, win in my book. How can a 3-4 work without a load to play NT? Just curious as to what is to be accomplished by throwing an already confused D into more confusion. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: The Real Question about the Defense... Play team defense = Discipline Beat the man in front of you = Attitude Add them together is Balance. Dennis Allen must channel Obi Won & Yoda with this defense and get this Balance. Half jokin'..half serious, here... hagan714 likes this.

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: The Real Question about the Defense... gap assignment and discipline in rush lanes man coverage unless Dennis does away with the 7 to 10 yard cushions. single safety in Rob's system was a huge failure. CharityMike likes this.

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MarchingOn 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 387 Blog Entries: 1	Re: The Real Question about the Defense... We're getting killed by passes to the TE. We're getting killed by Browner's penalties and coverage deficiencies. So, put Browner on the TE all game?

11-17-2015, 11:48 PM	#6
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: The Real Question about the Defense... Originally Posted by MarchingOn We're getting killed by passes to the TE. We're getting killed by Browner's penalties and coverage deficiencies. So, put Browner on the TE all game? Unfortunately as long as Mauti/Dunbar/Hawthorne or Humber is playing, we are still gonna suck at defending the TE Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk Rugby Saint II likes this.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: The Real Question about the Defense... Originally Posted by CharityMike Unfortunately as long as Mauti/Dunbar/Hawthorne or Humber is playing, we are still gonna suck at defending the TE Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk Nothing wrong with Humber when he has a cast. Hes a legit starter. The others a backups on other teams at best.
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11-18-2015, 08:34 AM	#8
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: The Real Question about the Defense... Originally Posted by CharityMike Unfortunately as long as Mauti/Dunbar/Hawthorne or Humber is playing, we are still gonna suck at defending the TE Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk I basically agree with this statement. I would like to add if the saints defense is to stay so bad will the saints stop cutting promising young talent when they sign them. We have had some solid prospects roll through the door only to see them get the axe days later for aging vets look if I am to suffer through this I want to see progress at the very least depth wise some where,some how on this defense. I can handle 30 points a game if the stable is loading up with a bunch of young colts. what i can not handle is 30 points a game with nothing but of aging old mares in the stable.
	"We may have lost the game, but you'll be hurting tomorrow." Doug Atkins

11-17-2015, 08:49 PM	#9
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