Rob Ryan got exposed in New Orleans, but he had help

WhoDat!656 · 11-18-2015, 11:42 AM

By any metric, the Saints have been abysmal defensively for the second consecutive season. Having allowed 130 points over the last three games, New Orleans has now given up to 315 points this season; that's more than eight teams allowed across the entire 2014 campaign, and the Saints still have six games left to go.

Rob Ryan was exposed in New Orleans but problems remain - NFL

Danno · 11-18-2015, 11:54 AM

Not a bad read at all. For the most part I agree with nearly all of it.

Yes, Ryan just isn't that good of a DC

Yes, his players don't fully match the schemes he runs (although good DC's adjust accordingly)

Yes, we have some holes at a few spots on defense due to salary cap issues and they have been exposed, especially as injuries mount.

Yes, injuries do seem to be a bit more excessive than most teams, and that has hurt us in several games, especially at LB.

CharityMike · 11-18-2015, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Not a bad read at all. For the most part I agree with nearly all of it.

Yes, Ryan just isn't that good of a DC

Yes, his players don't fully match the schemes he runs (although good DC's adjust accordingly)

Yes, we have some holes at a few spots on defense due to salary cap issues and they have been exposed, especially as injuries mount.

Yes, injuries do seem to be a bit more excessive than most teams, and that has hurt us in several games, especially at LB.

Ryans history speaks for itself period. He is not a good DC. People want/think he is because of his last name. Agree with the majority of the article.

I just wish someone could explain the phenomenon of when we get a DC the first year we play great and then they just stink the following year.

ikecomp · 11-18-2015, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

Ryans history speaks for itself period. He is not a good DC. People want/think he is because of his last name. Agree with the majority of the article.

I just wish someone could explain the phenomenon of when we get a DC the first year we play great and then they just stink the following year.

That didn't happen with Spags. We were terrible his one and only year.

CharityMike · 11-18-2015, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by ikecomp

That didn't happen with Spags. We were terrible his one and only year.

I wouldn't include that year because that was not a normal circumstance year.

dizzle88 · 11-18-2015, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

Ryans history speaks for itself period. He is not a good DC. People want/think he is because of his last name. Agree with the majority of the article.

I just wish someone could explain the phenomenon of when we get a DC the first year we play great and then they just stink the following year.

In all fairness, even though the turnovers dramatically dropped from 2009 -2010, we were ranked 25th in 2009, the very next year with GW we were ranked number 9. We just didn't have the same turnover margin.

That was the year Brees decided to throw 22 interceptions.

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WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,062	Rob Ryan got exposed in New Orleans, but he had help By any metric, the Saints have been abysmal defensively for the second consecutive season. Having allowed 130 points over the last three games, New Orleans has now given up to 315 points this season; that's more than eight teams allowed across the entire 2014 campaign, and the Saints still have six games left to go. Rob Ryan was exposed in New Orleans but problems remain - NFL

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: Rob Ryan got exposed in New Orleans, but he had help Not a bad read at all. For the most part I agree with nearly all of it. Yes, Ryan just isn't that good of a DC Yes, his players don't fully match the schemes he runs (although good DC's adjust accordingly) Yes, we have some holes at a few spots on defense due to salary cap issues and they have been exposed, especially as injuries mount. Yes, injuries do seem to be a bit more excessive than most teams, and that has hurt us in several games, especially at LB. CharityMike likes this.

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CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Rob Ryan got exposed in New Orleans, but he had help Originally Posted by Danno Not a bad read at all. For the most part I agree with nearly all of it. Yes, Ryan just isn't that good of a DC Yes, his players don't fully match the schemes he runs (although good DC's adjust accordingly) Yes, we have some holes at a few spots on defense due to salary cap issues and they have been exposed, especially as injuries mount. Yes, injuries do seem to be a bit more excessive than most teams, and that has hurt us in several games, especially at LB. Ryans history speaks for itself period. He is not a good DC. People want/think he is because of his last name. Agree with the majority of the article. I just wish someone could explain the phenomenon of when we get a DC the first year we play great and then they just stink the following year. RailBoss likes this.

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ikecomp 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 329	Re: Rob Ryan got exposed in New Orleans, but he had help Originally Posted by CharityMike Ryans history speaks for itself period. He is not a good DC. People want/think he is because of his last name. Agree with the majority of the article. I just wish someone could explain the phenomenon of when we get a DC the first year we play great and then they just stink the following year. That didn't happen with Spags. We were terrible his one and only year.
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CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Rob Ryan got exposed in New Orleans, but he had help Originally Posted by ikecomp That didn't happen with Spags. We were terrible his one and only year. I wouldn't include that year because that was not a normal circumstance year. RailBoss likes this.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,359	Re: Rob Ryan got exposed in New Orleans, but he had help Originally Posted by CharityMike Ryans history speaks for itself period. He is not a good DC. People want/think he is because of his last name. Agree with the majority of the article. I just wish someone could explain the phenomenon of when we get a DC the first year we play great and then they just stink the following year. In all fairness, even though the turnovers dramatically dropped from 2009 -2010, we were ranked 25th in 2009, the very next year with GW we were ranked number 9. We just didn't have the same turnover margin. That was the year Brees decided to throw 22 interceptions.

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