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Old 11-18-2015, 11:42 AM   #1
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Rob Ryan got exposed in New Orleans, but he had help

By any metric, the Saints have been abysmal defensively for the second consecutive season. Having allowed 130 points over the last three games, New Orleans has now given up to 315 points this season; that's more than eight teams allowed across the entire 2014 campaign, and the Saints still have six games left to go.

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Not a bad read at all. For the most part I agree with nearly all of it.

Yes, Ryan just isn't that good of a DC

Yes, his players don't fully match the schemes he runs (although good DC's adjust accordingly)

Yes, we have some holes at a few spots on defense due to salary cap issues and they have been exposed, especially as injuries mount.

Yes, injuries do seem to be a bit more excessive than most teams, and that has hurt us in several games, especially at LB.
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Re: Rob Ryan got exposed in New Orleans, but he had help

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Not a bad read at all. For the most part I agree with nearly all of it.

Yes, Ryan just isn't that good of a DC

Yes, his players don't fully match the schemes he runs (although good DC's adjust accordingly)

Yes, we have some holes at a few spots on defense due to salary cap issues and they have been exposed, especially as injuries mount.

Yes, injuries do seem to be a bit more excessive than most teams, and that has hurt us in several games, especially at LB.
Ryans history speaks for itself period. He is not a good DC. People want/think he is because of his last name. Agree with the majority of the article.

I just wish someone could explain the phenomenon of when we get a DC the first year we play great and then they just stink the following year.
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Re: Rob Ryan got exposed in New Orleans, but he had help

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Ryans history speaks for itself period. He is not a good DC. People want/think he is because of his last name. Agree with the majority of the article.

I just wish someone could explain the phenomenon of when we get a DC the first year we play great and then they just stink the following year.
That didn't happen with Spags. We were terrible his one and only year.
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That didn't happen with Spags. We were terrible his one and only year.
I wouldn't include that year because that was not a normal circumstance year.
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Re: Rob Ryan got exposed in New Orleans, but he had help

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Ryans history speaks for itself period. He is not a good DC. People want/think he is because of his last name. Agree with the majority of the article.

I just wish someone could explain the phenomenon of when we get a DC the first year we play great and then they just stink the following year.
In all fairness, even though the turnovers dramatically dropped from 2009 -2010, we were ranked 25th in 2009, the very next year with GW we were ranked number 9. We just didn't have the same turnover margin.

That was the year Brees decided to throw 22 interceptions.
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