Rob Ryan on NFL Gameday this morning

WillSaints81 · 11-23-2015, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Maybe the strategy for hiring the DC isn't working. I believe these coaches under Payton have been secondary coaches. One thing all these hires have in common is Sean Payton. The first thing he did when he came here was drafting and bringing in CB's because that is the position he likes to attack as a play caller. He's always valued CB's and has spent a high draft pick on the position repeatedly since his arrival. Unfortunately, he can't evaluate defensive talent worth a damn.

Maybe we need a D-line or LB'ers coach to bring a different view of defenses. Someone with a new direction for this defense. Hopefully Jeff Ireland has the eye for defensive talent to give a new DC more ammunition.

Payton did not evaluate that talent, the previous scout did. He is now gone.

vpheughan · 11-24-2015, 08:40 AM

All of our recent DC"s seem to use the "Prof. Harold Hill" method of coaching. Give the defensed a playbook and let them "Visualize" making the plays!

"I say you have Trouble! Right here in Big Easy! Trouble starts with T and that rhymes with D and that stands for Defense!!!!"

(Prof. Harold Hill is a character from the musical the Music Man. He played a con man that went from town to town convincing the powers that be the the youth of the town was getting corrupted. Their salvation was to form a school marching band. He got them to order uniforms and instruments through him but didn't know music. He gave them the instruments and had the "visualize" them playing them.)

Mardigras9 · 11-24-2015, 09:18 AM

No telling what he is truly feeling under the façade. We loved that personality in New Orleans when he came, so can't fault him for the same thing now. He is consistent with that persona.

Budsdrinker · 11-24-2015, 09:40 AM

Look, we've just had some bad luck. We tried to fix the defense and the moves didn't work. We signed Byrd and he's been hurt and hasn't done a thing. He was great in Buffalo and looked like a good move at the time. Ryan was brought in to help create pressure and turnovers. But his schemes are too confusing and that didn't work. JR was looking like a good young player and then the money got to his head and he went stupid. We just need to develop the young players and maybe Allen can do it without confusing them. Let's see how the final 6 games go.

11-23-2015, 10:26 PM	#21
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Rob Ryan on NFL Gameday this morning Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Maybe the strategy for hiring the DC isn't working. I believe these coaches under Payton have been secondary coaches. One thing all these hires have in common is Sean Payton. The first thing he did when he came here was drafting and bringing in CB's because that is the position he likes to attack as a play caller. He's always valued CB's and has spent a high draft pick on the position repeatedly since his arrival. Unfortunately, he can't evaluate defensive talent worth a damn. Maybe we need a D-line or LB'ers coach to bring a different view of defenses. Someone with a new direction for this defense. Hopefully Jeff Ireland has the eye for defensive talent to give a new DC more ammunition. Payton did not evaluate that talent, the previous scout did. He is now gone.

11-24-2015, 08:40 AM	#22
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,520	Re: Rob Ryan on NFL Gameday this morning All of our recent DC"s seem to use the "Prof. Harold Hill" method of coaching. Give the defensed a playbook and let them "Visualize" making the plays! "I say you have Trouble! Right here in Big Easy! Trouble starts with T and that rhymes with D and that stands for Defense!!!!" (Prof. Harold Hill is a character from the musical the Music Man. He played a con man that went from town to town convincing the powers that be the the youth of the town was getting corrupted. Their salvation was to form a school marching band. He got them to order uniforms and instruments through him but didn't know music. He gave them the instruments and had the "visualize" them playing them.)
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,520

11-24-2015, 09:18 AM	#23
Mardigras9 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Land Mass between LA and AL Posts: 4,375	Re: Rob Ryan on NFL Gameday this morning No telling what he is truly feeling under the façade. We loved that personality in New Orleans when he came, so can't fault him for the same thing now. He is consistent with that persona.

11-24-2015, 09:40 AM	#24
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Rob Ryan on NFL Gameday this morning Look, we've just had some bad luck. We tried to fix the defense and the moves didn't work. We signed Byrd and he's been hurt and hasn't done a thing. He was great in Buffalo and looked like a good move at the time. Ryan was brought in to help create pressure and turnovers. But his schemes are too confusing and that didn't work. JR was looking like a good young player and then the money got to his head and he went stupid. We just need to develop the young players and maybe Allen can do it without confusing them. Let's see how the final 6 games go.

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