So who do we draft?

WillSaints81 · 11-30-2015, 07:01 PM

And who was it that said not sold on Nkdemevich? He plays in the SEC.

Look when the combine happens you watch and see where the SEC guys end up compared to other conferences' players.

CheramieIII · 11-30-2015, 07:04 PM

The best damn cornerbacks, safeties and defensive lineman in the draft. We will need to pick up 1 or 2 offensive lineman and 1 or 2 wide receivers in FA. We also need to start the development of Brees' replacement

TwistedTiger · 11-30-2015, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

at this rate we are getting back into what they call a sure thing. lmao sure thing right. But one of my favs for the saints that stayed out of the draft last year is here this year.

Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame 6055 315 5.17

He would be sweet to have. Not only is he one of the top OT but many think a move back to LOG were he started would be his best move and give him a shot at multiple years as an all pro vs outside at OT. Which I can understand and see in his game. You can speed rush the kid but your not going to out dance him or push him around a phone booth. Switches off smoothly and is incredibly smart.

Armstead and Stanely would be a dangerous duo. Add to it the ability to jump outside in case of injury would be huge. he can go RT or LT. he is that gifted. Unlike Andrus Peat, he is not a project to make versatile.

I had him rated as the same type of player Collins last year. An OT that might be better off at OG. Stanely has more natural athletic ability.

Then draft one of the two road graders from Arkansas in the middle rounds
Sebastian Tretola, ROG, Arkansas 6045 334 5.28
Denver Kirkland OG/OT Arkansas 6045 340 5.47

The saints OL wows would all but disappear.

just a thought.

Excellent choice, build the lines or the rest doesn't matter. That's been one of Paytons biggest failures, going after DBs and offensive weapons while both lines deteriorate.

Danno · 11-30-2015, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by TwistedTiger

Excellent choice, build the lines or the rest doesn't matter.

Its the recipe for success.

But obviously that alone won't do it. But without solid trenches, it makes everything else more difficult.

Beastmode · 11-30-2015, 07:20 PM

Have to build your lines first. We had a great OL and the meager DL fed off of it. Our lines are really bad. It could take a couple of years to solidify one side. I think OL is the way to go. DL, more prone to injuries. We don't build lines, just patch holes. This ship is barely afloat.

Danno · 11-30-2015, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by Beastmode

Have to build your lines first. We had a great OL and the meager DL fed off of it. Our lines are really bad. It could take a couple of years to solidify one side. I think OL is the way to go. DL, more prone to injuries. We don't build lines, just patch holes. This ship is barely afloat.

It never takes a couple of years to solidify anything other than QB.

halloween 65 · 11-30-2015, 07:32 PM

I got to go O-line in the 1st. D-line in the 2nd. If this trend of losing continus a 5th pick or lower could happen with a low 30's. Trading Jordan could get us about any type of line O or D we wanted with picks that low. Rebuild complete.

Danno · 11-30-2015, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I got to go O-line in the 1st. D-line in the 2nd. If this trend of losing continus a 5th pick or lower could happen with a low 30's. Trading Jordan could get us about any type of line O or D we wanted with picks that low. Rebuild complete.

The failure rate of draft picks is way way too high to risk trading a star player for a couple of high picks.

It doesn't make sense at all.

Marlboro Man · 11-30-2015, 09:27 PM

We need a DE that can crush the pocket and attack the QB, Cam Jordan just isn't good enough. We need to trade him while he may still have some value. and pick up his replacement. Also need a DT that can push the middle of the pocket and an OLB that can run and disrupt. After that get a big WR with speed that might be under the radar and address the two G spots and RT. Unfortunately we're stuck with Unger for now, but he's been underwhelming so far. Oh, and we need Browner's replacement.

WillSaints81 · 11-30-2015, 09:34 PM

unger has been bad?

11-30-2015, 07:01 PM	#41
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: So who do we draft? And who was it that said not sold on Nkdemevich? He plays in the SEC. Look when the combine happens you watch and see where the SEC guys end up compared to other conferences' players.

11-30-2015, 07:04 PM	#42
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Re: So who do we draft? The best damn cornerbacks, safeties and defensive lineman in the draft. We will need to pick up 1 or 2 offensive lineman and 1 or 2 wide receivers in FA. We also need to start the development of Brees' replacement Rugby Saint II likes this.

11-30-2015, 07:13 PM	#43
TwistedTiger 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 180	Re: So who do we draft? Originally Posted by hagan714 at this rate we are getting back into what they call a sure thing. lmao sure thing right. But one of my favs for the saints that stayed out of the draft last year is here this year. Ronnie Stanley, OT, Notre Dame 6055 315 5.17 He would be sweet to have. Not only is he one of the top OT but many think a move back to LOG were he started would be his best move and give him a shot at multiple years as an all pro vs outside at OT. Which I can understand and see in his game. You can speed rush the kid but your not going to out dance him or push him around a phone booth. Switches off smoothly and is incredibly smart. Armstead and Stanely would be a dangerous duo. Add to it the ability to jump outside in case of injury would be huge. he can go RT or LT. he is that gifted. Unlike Andrus Peat, he is not a project to make versatile. I had him rated as the same type of player Collins last year. An OT that might be better off at OG. Stanely has more natural athletic ability. Then draft one of the two road graders from Arkansas in the middle rounds Sebastian Tretola, ROG, Arkansas 6045 334 5.28 Denver Kirkland OG/OT Arkansas 6045 340 5.47 The saints OL wows would all but disappear. just a thought. Excellent choice, build the lines or the rest doesn't matter. That's been one of Paytons biggest failures, going after DBs and offensive weapons while both lines deteriorate. Danno and Rugby Saint II like this.
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11-30-2015, 07:17 PM	#44
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: So who do we draft? Originally Posted by TwistedTiger Excellent choice, build the lines or the rest doesn't matter. Its the recipe for success. But obviously that alone won't do it. But without solid trenches, it makes everything else more difficult. Rugby Saint II likes this.

11-30-2015, 07:20 PM	#45
Beastmode 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 9,126	Re: So who do we draft? Have to build your lines first. We had a great OL and the meager DL fed off of it. Our lines are really bad. It could take a couple of years to solidify one side. I think OL is the way to go. DL, more prone to injuries. We don't build lines, just patch holes. This ship is barely afloat.
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11-30-2015, 07:23 PM	#46
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: So who do we draft? Originally Posted by Beastmode Have to build your lines first. We had a great OL and the meager DL fed off of it. Our lines are really bad. It could take a couple of years to solidify one side. I think OL is the way to go. DL, more prone to injuries. We don't build lines, just patch holes. This ship is barely afloat. It never takes a couple of years to solidify anything other than QB.

11-30-2015, 07:32 PM	#47
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: So who do we draft? I got to go O-line in the 1st. D-line in the 2nd. If this trend of losing continus a 5th pick or lower could happen with a low 30's. Trading Jordan could get us about any type of line O or D we wanted with picks that low. Rebuild complete.

11-30-2015, 07:42 PM	#48
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: So who do we draft? Originally Posted by halloween 65 I got to go O-line in the 1st. D-line in the 2nd. If this trend of losing continus a 5th pick or lower could happen with a low 30's. Trading Jordan could get us about any type of line O or D we wanted with picks that low. Rebuild complete. The failure rate of draft picks is way way too high to risk trading a star player for a couple of high picks. It doesn't make sense at all. Rugby Saint II likes this.

11-30-2015, 09:27 PM	#49
Marlboro Man 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,469	Re: So who do we draft? We need a DE that can crush the pocket and attack the QB, Cam Jordan just isn't good enough. We need to trade him while he may still have some value. and pick up his replacement. Also need a DT that can push the middle of the pocket and an OLB that can run and disrupt. After that get a big WR with speed that might be under the radar and address the two G spots and RT. Unfortunately we're stuck with Unger for now, but he's been underwhelming so far. Oh, and we need Browner's replacement.

11-30-2015, 09:34 PM	#50
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: So who do we draft? unger has been bad?

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