We need to go after a big receiver in Free Agency

WillSaints81 · 12-08-2015, 05:20 PM

Once we cut Browner and Drew restructures[assuming Sean stays], we should be able to afford one and then go after a bunch of underrated defensive pieces. I think we need to focus the draft on a pass rusher first and then shore u the oline. I don't trust that Drew will bounce back without a number 1 receiver.

I think receivers for FA that I feel most confident in
DT[he'll want to leave if Manning is done there]
Megatron[don't care about age, Jordy is likely to bounce back and he's older]
Tate[Megatron's teammate but given his character it's not likely to happen]
Wallace[he's not a fit in Minnesota and he hasn't had a to qb throw to him since Big Ben]

Who I don't feel confident with
Sanu

halloween 65 · 12-08-2015, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

Once we cut Browner and Drew restructures[assuming Sean stays], we should be able to afford one and then go after a bunch of underrated defensive pieces. I think we need to focus the draft on a pass rusher first and then shore u the oline. I don't trust that Drew will bounce back without a number 1 receiver.

I think receivers for FA that I feel most confident in
DT[he'll want to leave if Manning is done there]
Megatron[don't care about age, Jordy is likely to bounce back and he's older]
Tate[Megatron's teammate but given his character it's not likely to happen]
Wallace[he's not a fit in Minnesota and he hasn't had a to qb throw to him since Big Ben]

Who I don't feel confident with
Sanu

I want to shore up the G spot in the 1st a road grader type. The I have to wait and see who our DC is.But DEFENSE IS HIGH ON MY LIST!!

ChrisXVI · 12-08-2015, 06:08 PM

We don't do that. When have we ever signed established veteran WR's? Payton believes in developing his own.

WillSaints81 · 12-08-2015, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

We don't do that. When have we ever signed established veteran WR's? Payton believes in developing his own.

This is what bothers me. Who on our team has shown to catch a pass consistently? I will say this I am not seeing runs after the catch no one is extending yardage. A Megatron will do that. This season has got my head messed up.

I pray that I finally have a life because this will be the offseason where I will be in "I will believe it when I see it" mode. I can no longer be about football during the offseason.

I will always be a fan but my spirit is broken.

|Mitch| · 12-08-2015, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

Who on our team has shown to catch a pass consistently? I will say this I am not seeing runs after the catch no one is extending yardage.

How about Brandin Cooks? Or even the 6'6" Brandon Coleman had a good game against a very good Panthers defense...

The answer is protecting Drew better; he can make a somebody out of a nobody with a clean pocket to throw from...

Or Willie Snead until his injury, Benjamin Watson is having his best receiving season ever...

The Dude · 12-08-2015, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

How about Brandin Cooks? Or even the 6'6" Brandon Coleman had a good game against a very good Panthers defense...

The answer is protecting Drew better; he can make a somebody out of a nobody with a clean pocket to throw from...

Or Willie Snead until his injury, Benjamin Watson is having his best receiving season ever...

I agree with you but as he gets older he is going to become less acurate and is going to need a receiver who can get the tough balls no matter how much protection he has. I think you need veterans for the offensive line. It takes a few years to develop a rookie lineman and that is something Drew doesnt have.

WillSaints81 · 12-09-2015, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

How about Brandin Cooks? Or even the 6'6" Brandon Coleman had a good game against a very good Panthers defense...

The answer is protecting Drew better; he can make a somebody out of a nobody with a clean pocket to throw from...

Or Willie Snead until his injury, Benjamin Watson is having his best receiving season ever...

So you credit Carolina for keeping Brees out of the endzone the first half more than the saints offense? Gotcha.

FYI-Brees looked better in the second half because they weren't running the ball, more oortunities for catches. To say we could not do that in the first half is not right. You can blame run blocking, but Ingram's run well on second down. Now that he's done, we'll see what Drew does with no Ingram to run the ball on first down.

The Dude · 12-08-2015, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

Once we cut Browner and Drew restructures[assuming Sean stays], we should be able to afford one and then go after a bunch of underrated defensive pieces. I think we need to focus the draft on a pass rusher first and then shore u the oline. I don't trust that Drew will bounce back without a number 1 receiver.

I think receivers for FA that I feel most confident in
DT[he'll want to leave if Manning is done there]
Megatron[don't care about age, Jordy is likely to bounce back and he's older]
Tate[Megatron's teammate but given his character it's not likely to happen]
Wallace[he's not a fit in Minnesota and he hasn't had a to qb throw to him since Big Ben]

Who I don't feel confident with
Sanu

I feel you on the receiver. I dont think Drew will be here if Payton stays. I look for Payton to leave anyway. The front office isnt as stupid as some of us like to believe. They know that if they want to attract a decent head coach Drew is a hell of a bargaining chip. I look for them to keep Drew because believe it or not he is still playing at a very high level in spite of his offensive line. Coming to a team that already has a good QB, at least for a couple of years looks good for perspective coaches. Gives them more time to find a QB who can be "their guy".

I think we should get an immediete impact receiver in the draft any way we can. Receiver is one position that rookies can step into quite nicely. Hopefully he will be good enough initially to give Brees the confidence he needs to look his way as a passing option on any given down. 2 years down the road you have a young veteran that can help the new QB develop. Brees has always mode our receivers look better than they are and a young stud receiver with a couple years under his belt can make a new QB more comforatable in the same way. All of a sudden now you have two young players to build around.

FA is ok, but star receivers arent just hanging on trees like ****ing crab apples. We could find an older servicable receiver somewhere but you would be in the same boat in a couple years.

blackangold · 12-08-2015, 10:09 PM

One thing I will say from now on...

You do not build a great team from free agent acquisitions, you build a great team from drafting/scouting well.

NOLA54 · 12-09-2015, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

One thing I will say from now on...

You do not build a great team from free agent acquisitions, you build a great team from drafting/scouting well.

This is how the Packers do it.

12-08-2015, 05:20 PM	#1
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	We need to go after a big receiver in Free Agency Once we cut Browner and Drew restructures[assuming Sean stays], we should be able to afford one and then go after a bunch of underrated defensive pieces. I think we need to focus the draft on a pass rusher first and then shore u the oline. I don't trust that Drew will bounce back without a number 1 receiver. I think receivers for FA that I feel most confident in DT[he'll want to leave if Manning is done there] Megatron[don't care about age, Jordy is likely to bounce back and he's older] Tate[Megatron's teammate but given his character it's not likely to happen] Wallace[he's not a fit in Minnesota and he hasn't had a to qb throw to him since Big Ben] Who I don't feel confident with Sanu

12-08-2015, 05:33 PM	#2
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: We need to go after a big receiver in Free Agency Originally Posted by WillSaints81 Once we cut Browner and Drew restructures[assuming Sean stays], we should be able to afford one and then go after a bunch of underrated defensive pieces. I think we need to focus the draft on a pass rusher first and then shore u the oline. I don't trust that Drew will bounce back without a number 1 receiver. I think receivers for FA that I feel most confident in DT[he'll want to leave if Manning is done there] Megatron[don't care about age, Jordy is likely to bounce back and he's older] Tate[Megatron's teammate but given his character it's not likely to happen] Wallace[he's not a fit in Minnesota and he hasn't had a to qb throw to him since Big Ben] Who I don't feel confident with Sanu I want to shore up the G spot in the 1st a road grader type. The I have to wait and see who our DC is.But DEFENSE IS HIGH ON MY LIST!!

12-08-2015, 06:08 PM	#3
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: We need to go after a big receiver in Free Agency We don't do that. When have we ever signed established veteran WR's? Payton believes in developing his own.

12-08-2015, 07:54 PM	#4
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: We need to go after a big receiver in Free Agency Originally Posted by ChrisXVI We don't do that. When have we ever signed established veteran WR's? Payton believes in developing his own. This is what bothers me. Who on our team has shown to catch a pass consistently? I will say this I am not seeing runs after the catch no one is extending yardage. A Megatron will do that. This season has got my head messed up. I pray that I finally have a life because this will be the offseason where I will be in "I will believe it when I see it" mode. I can no longer be about football during the offseason. I will always be a fan but my spirit is broken.

12-08-2015, 07:58 PM	#5
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: We need to go after a big receiver in Free Agency Originally Posted by WillSaints81 Who on our team has shown to catch a pass consistently? I will say this I am not seeing runs after the catch no one is extending yardage. How about Brandin Cooks? Or even the 6'6" Brandon Coleman had a good game against a very good Panthers defense... The answer is protecting Drew better; he can make a somebody out of a nobody with a clean pocket to throw from... Or Willie Snead until his injury, Benjamin Watson is having his best receiving season ever... spkb25, Beastmode, Mardigras9 and 1 others like this.

12-08-2015, 09:00 PM	#6
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: We need to go after a big receiver in Free Agency Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| How about Brandin Cooks? Or even the 6'6" Brandon Coleman had a good game against a very good Panthers defense... The answer is protecting Drew better; he can make a somebody out of a nobody with a clean pocket to throw from... Or Willie Snead until his injury, Benjamin Watson is having his best receiving season ever... I agree with you but as he gets older he is going to become less acurate and is going to need a receiver who can get the tough balls no matter how much protection he has. I think you need veterans for the offensive line. It takes a few years to develop a rookie lineman and that is something Drew doesnt have.
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12-09-2015, 01:47 PM	#7
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: We need to go after a big receiver in Free Agency Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| How about Brandin Cooks? Or even the 6'6" Brandon Coleman had a good game against a very good Panthers defense... The answer is protecting Drew better; he can make a somebody out of a nobody with a clean pocket to throw from... Or Willie Snead until his injury, Benjamin Watson is having his best receiving season ever... So you credit Carolina for keeping Brees out of the endzone the first half more than the saints offense? Gotcha. FYI-Brees looked better in the second half because they weren't running the ball, more oortunities for catches. To say we could not do that in the first half is not right. You can blame run blocking, but Ingram's run well on second down. Now that he's done, we'll see what Drew does with no Ingram to run the ball on first down.

12-08-2015, 08:57 PM	#8
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: We need to go after a big receiver in Free Agency Originally Posted by WillSaints81 Once we cut Browner and Drew restructures[assuming Sean stays], we should be able to afford one and then go after a bunch of underrated defensive pieces. I think we need to focus the draft on a pass rusher first and then shore u the oline. I don't trust that Drew will bounce back without a number 1 receiver. I think receivers for FA that I feel most confident in DT[he'll want to leave if Manning is done there] Megatron[don't care about age, Jordy is likely to bounce back and he's older] Tate[Megatron's teammate but given his character it's not likely to happen] Wallace[he's not a fit in Minnesota and he hasn't had a to qb throw to him since Big Ben] Who I don't feel confident with Sanu I feel you on the receiver. I dont think Drew will be here if Payton stays. I look for Payton to leave anyway. The front office isnt as stupid as some of us like to believe. They know that if they want to attract a decent head coach Drew is a hell of a bargaining chip. I look for them to keep Drew because believe it or not he is still playing at a very high level in spite of his offensive line. Coming to a team that already has a good QB, at least for a couple of years looks good for perspective coaches. Gives them more time to find a QB who can be "their guy". I think we should get an immediete impact receiver in the draft any way we can. Receiver is one position that rookies can step into quite nicely. Hopefully he will be good enough initially to give Brees the confidence he needs to look his way as a passing option on any given down. 2 years down the road you have a young veteran that can help the new QB develop. Brees has always mode our receivers look better than they are and a young stud receiver with a couple years under his belt can make a new QB more comforatable in the same way. All of a sudden now you have two young players to build around. FA is ok, but star receivers arent just hanging on trees like ****ing crab apples. We could find an older servicable receiver somewhere but you would be in the same boat in a couple years.
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12-08-2015, 10:09 PM	#9
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: We need to go after a big receiver in Free Agency One thing I will say from now on... You do not build a great team from free agent acquisitions, you build a great team from drafting/scouting well. MatthewT and SmashMouth like this.

12-09-2015, 09:18 PM	#10
NOLA54 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,708 Blog Entries: 1	Re: We need to go after a big receiver in Free Agency Originally Posted by blackangold One thing I will say from now on... You do not build a great team from free agent acquisitions, you build a great team from drafting/scouting well. This is how the Packers do it. leilung and K Major like this.

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