We need to go after a big receiver in Free Agency

MatthewT · 12-09-2015, 04:52 AM

Please-please-please-please NO big name free agent WR's. The only free agent WR's I would go for are guys who may have been bad fits for other teams that can be had cheap and developed. In other words if there is another Joe Horn type out there, lets go get that guy and leave the big name people alone.

SloMotion · 12-09-2015, 05:02 AM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

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Megatron[don't care about age, Jordy is likely to bounce back and he's older]
Tate[Megatron's teammate but given his character it's not likely to happen]

The thing about Calvin Johnson is that he has a huge contract coming to him next season which might make teams shy away ... IDK exactly how all the financials work, but he is set to get paid in 2016. Otherwise, there's no NFL player in history other than Barry Sanders I can honestly say I've enjoyed watching more.

Be nice to see him get a ring & have an elite QB throwing to him,

. Golden Tate's not that bad, being on a losing team has given him a little different perspective on life, IMO,

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SaintsBro · 12-09-2015, 07:34 AM

The offense is fine -- Drew put up 38 points against a top defense that is quite probably going to be in the Super Bowl or deep in the playoffs. It's the defense, defense, DEFENSE that is still a dumpster fire, and needs to overhauled from top to bottom.

The last thing we need is drunk Loomis opening Benson's wallet and spending more cap money trying to make a "big splash" in free agency. That's what got us into this mess. Loomis and Payton are like a couple of drunks when it comes to recklessly spending Tom Benson's money, and we don't need to enable them any further.

The way it stands right now, the only way the Saints can ever win, is that Drew Brees needs to score EVERY SINGLE TIME HE TOUCHES THE BALL. Every drive has to be for points, or else we are toast when the other team gets the ball -- that's what happens in almost every game. A single punt or missed field goal, and the game is basically over, 14 points, 21 points it doesn't matter -- we lose any lead we have. The last thing we need is to worry about Drew having to score more points to get a bigger lead.

Barry from MS · 12-09-2015, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

...It's the defense, defense, DEFENSE that is still a dumpster fire, and needs to overhauled from top to bottom...A single punt or missed field goal, and the game is basically over, 14 points, 21 points it doesn't matter -- we lose any lead we have.

Notice how many leads we've seemed to simply just fart away this year? We have zero depth. Zero depth at defensive line. Zero depth at linebacker.

Wonder why we're starting 2 rookies at linebacker? No depth at linebacker. Wonder why an UDFA is starting on the defensive line? No depth at defensive line.

Our Front 7 is a hot garbage trainwreck that has blown so many 2nd half leads that it has become common and puts this defense at the bottom of the NFL...but if a Megatron or a D. Thomas will help us score 56, our defense better hold the opponent to 55 next year.

WillSaints81 · 12-09-2015, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

The offense is fine -- Drew put up 38 points against a top defense that is quite probably going to be in the Super Bowl or deep in the playoffs. It's the defense, defense, DEFENSE that is still a dumpster fire, and needs to overhauled from top to bottom.

The last thing we need is drunk Loomis opening Benson's wallet and spending more cap money trying to make a "big splash" in free agency. That's what got us into this mess. Loomis and Payton are like a couple of drunks when it comes to recklessly spending Tom Benson's money, and we don't need to enable them any further.

The way it stands right now, the only way the Saints can ever win, is that Drew Brees needs to score EVERY SINGLE TIME HE TOUCHES THE BALL. Every drive has to be for points, or else we are toast when the other team gets the ball -- that's what happens in almost every game. A single punt or missed field goal, and the game is basically over, 14 points, 21 points it doesn't matter -- we lose any lead we have. The last thing we need is to worry about Drew having to score more points to get a bigger lead.

God I hope you are wrong.

Tobias-Reiper · 12-09-2015, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

Drew put up 38 points against a top defense

No, he didn't.

SaintsBro · 12-09-2015, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

No, he didn't.

OK, yippie, the Saints got LUCKY on a fumble and a 2 point conversion going the other way. The defense is still a complete dumpster fire, any way you look at it! Newton passed for 5 TDs, if you didn't notice!

WillSaints81 · 12-09-2015, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper

No, he didn't.

Exactly he scored 29.

mighty12 · 12-09-2015, 09:17 AM

'sign a big WR' 'We need a solid RB' ' Drew needs to go and we should draft Connor Cook'

All these statements are bogus if you believe, like me, NFL games are won and lost in the trenches. The O-line and defensive front 7 are our biggest needs.

Senio, Lelito, Evans, Strief its been fun but you guys need to find employment elsewhere. The Saints need to strengthen the line or it won't matter who we have at the skill positions.

The Dline needs another End that is not a liability in the run game. Then, get rid of Hawthorne and draft a weakside linebacker who can play the run and is decent in coverage.

I know the DBs(mainly Browner) get a lot of flack, and they should because they look lost out there, but Breaux/Lewis/Swann/PJ give me a good feeling about our DBs if only the front 7 could create pressure. Browner needs to go. He can't cover and refs are singling him out with penalties. I don't see the need to draft a CB but a Safety should be high on our list.

There is a lot that needs to be fixed and Brees will NEED to restructure his deal or get traded/released/retire in order to make this team competitive again, but I don't think grabbing a FA skill position is the answer.

RaginCajun83 · 12-09-2015, 09:47 AM

Saints need to build the offensive and defensive line in free agency and the draft unless someone falls (like Reggie Bush) into their laps who they can't pass on.

I really hope Loomis learned that winning March doesn't mean a thing in December

12-09-2015, 04:52 AM	#1
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: We need to go after a big receiver in Free Agency Please-please-please-please NO big name free agent WR's. The only free agent WR's I would go for are guys who may have been bad fits for other teams that can be had cheap and developed. In other words if there is another Joe Horn type out there, lets go get that guy and leave the big name people alone. hagan714 and leilung like this.

12-09-2015, 05:02 AM	#2
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: We need to go after a big receiver in Free Agency Originally Posted by WillSaints81 .... Megatron[don't care about age, Jordy is likely to bounce back and he's older] Tate[Megatron's teammate but given his character it's not likely to happen] The thing about Calvin Johnson is that he has a huge contract coming to him next season which might make teams shy away ... IDK exactly how all the financials work, but he is set to get paid in 2016. Otherwise, there's no NFL player in history other than Barry Sanders I can honestly say I've enjoyed watching more. Be nice to see him get a ring & have an elite QB throwing to him, . Golden Tate's not that bad, being on a losing team has given him a little different perspective on life, IMO, . Rugby Saint II likes this.

12-09-2015, 07:34 AM	#3
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: We need to go after a big receiver in Free Agency The offense is fine -- Drew put up 38 points against a top defense that is quite probably going to be in the Super Bowl or deep in the playoffs. It's the defense, defense, DEFENSE that is still a dumpster fire, and needs to overhauled from top to bottom. The last thing we need is drunk Loomis opening Benson's wallet and spending more cap money trying to make a "big splash" in free agency. That's what got us into this mess. Loomis and Payton are like a couple of drunks when it comes to recklessly spending Tom Benson's money, and we don't need to enable them any further. The way it stands right now, the only way the Saints can ever win, is that Drew Brees needs to score EVERY SINGLE TIME HE TOUCHES THE BALL. Every drive has to be for points, or else we are toast when the other team gets the ball -- that's what happens in almost every game. A single punt or missed field goal, and the game is basically over, 14 points, 21 points it doesn't matter -- we lose any lead we have. The last thing we need is to worry about Drew having to score more points to get a bigger lead. SaintFanInATLHELL, hagan714, Barry from MS and 2 others like this.

12-09-2015, 10:27 AM	#4
Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: We need to go after a big receiver in Free Agency Originally Posted by SaintsBro ...It's the defense, defense, DEFENSE that is still a dumpster fire, and needs to overhauled from top to bottom...A single punt or missed field goal, and the game is basically over, 14 points, 21 points it doesn't matter -- we lose any lead we have. Notice how many leads we've seemed to simply just fart away this year? We have zero depth. Zero depth at defensive line. Zero depth at linebacker. Wonder why we're starting 2 rookies at linebacker? No depth at linebacker. Wonder why an UDFA is starting on the defensive line? No depth at defensive line. Our Front 7 is a hot garbage trainwreck that has blown so many 2nd half leads that it has become common and puts this defense at the bottom of the NFL...but if a Megatron or a D. Thomas will help us score 56, our defense better hold the opponent to 55 next year. SaintFanInATLHELL likes this.
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12-09-2015, 02:01 PM	#5
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,283	Re: We need to go after a big receiver in Free Agency Originally Posted by SaintsBro The offense is fine -- Drew put up 38 points against a top defense that is quite probably going to be in the Super Bowl or deep in the playoffs. It's the defense, defense, DEFENSE that is still a dumpster fire, and needs to overhauled from top to bottom. The last thing we need is drunk Loomis opening Benson's wallet and spending more cap money trying to make a "big splash" in free agency. That's what got us into this mess. Loomis and Payton are like a couple of drunks when it comes to recklessly spending Tom Benson's money, and we don't need to enable them any further. The way it stands right now, the only way the Saints can ever win, is that Drew Brees needs to score EVERY SINGLE TIME HE TOUCHES THE BALL. Every drive has to be for points, or else we are toast when the other team gets the ball -- that's what happens in almost every game. A single punt or missed field goal, and the game is basically over, 14 points, 21 points it doesn't matter -- we lose any lead we have. The last thing we need is to worry about Drew having to score more points to get a bigger lead. God I hope you are wrong.

12-09-2015, 03:24 PM	#6
Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: We need to go after a big receiver in Free Agency Originally Posted by SaintsBro Drew put up 38 points against a top defense No, he didn't.

12-09-2015, 03:32 PM	#7
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: We need to go after a big receiver in Free Agency Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper No, he didn't. OK, yippie, the Saints got LUCKY on a fumble and a 2 point conversion going the other way. The defense is still a complete dumpster fire, any way you look at it! Newton passed for 5 TDs, if you didn't notice!

12-09-2015, 06:12 PM	#8
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,283	Re: We need to go after a big receiver in Free Agency Originally Posted by Tobias-Reiper No, he didn't. Exactly he scored 29.

12-09-2015, 09:17 AM	#9
mighty12 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 980 Blog Entries: 1	Re: We need to go after a big receiver in Free Agency 'sign a big WR' 'We need a solid RB' ' Drew needs to go and we should draft Connor Cook' All these statements are bogus if you believe, like me, NFL games are won and lost in the trenches. The O-line and defensive front 7 are our biggest needs. Senio, Lelito, Evans, Strief its been fun but you guys need to find employment elsewhere. The Saints need to strengthen the line or it won't matter who we have at the skill positions. The Dline needs another End that is not a liability in the run game. Then, get rid of Hawthorne and draft a weakside linebacker who can play the run and is decent in coverage. I know the DBs(mainly Browner) get a lot of flack, and they should because they look lost out there, but Breaux/Lewis/Swann/PJ give me a good feeling about our DBs if only the front 7 could create pressure. Browner needs to go. He can't cover and refs are singling him out with penalties. I don't see the need to draft a CB but a Safety should be high on our list. There is a lot that needs to be fixed and Brees will NEED to restructure his deal or get traded/released/retire in order to make this team competitive again, but I don't think grabbing a FA skill position is the answer. SaintFanInATLHELL, MatthewT and Budsdrinker like this.

12-09-2015, 09:47 AM	#10
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: We need to go after a big receiver in Free Agency Saints need to build the offensive and defensive line in free agency and the draft unless someone falls (like Reggie Bush) into their laps who they can't pass on. I really hope Loomis learned that winning March doesn't mean a thing in December Budsdrinker and SloMotion like this.

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