Who is the best quarterback that you think will be available in the 2016 NFL Draft?

WillSaints81 · 12-11-2015, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Not one is ready to step in and play right away IMO. But if forced into starting I would bet on Cook.

This is the perfect draft for a team to grab a solid QB and have them sit and learn. the top 3 are all good risks. Still not sold on our pet project from last year.

Kevin Hogan - is my teaser. he finally put together a year stanford was hoping for a while now. but was it a one year wonder thing or has he really turned the corner?

Cody Kessler may end up being the steal of the draft.

Dark horse Dak Prescott just keeps kicking me the head. keep an eye on him

Look who he plays for. No thank you.

mighty12 · 12-10-2015, 08:39 AM

Can someone tell me why everyone is so high on Connor Cook? I am not impressed with his talent. He is a game manager in college, would be at best a clipboard holder in the NFL. Kirk Cousins was a better prospect coming out of MSU.

The red flags on him are as follows:
No leadership ability
Senior QB who did not get voted captain by his teammates(HUGE red flag)
Poor completion percentage for a college QB(anything under 60% is an issue)

I have only seen him play in the big games Oregon/Michigan and he didn't impress me. Anyone who has seen more of his games, could you please tell me what is to like about this guy? The gurus are high on him too but he seems to be a Ryan Leaf type.

WillSaints81 · 12-11-2015, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by mighty12

Can someone tell me why everyone is so high on Connor Cook? I am not impressed with his talent. He is a game manager in college, would be at best a clipboard holder in the NFL. Kirk Cousins was a better prospect coming out of MSU.

The red flags on him are as follows:
No leadership ability
Senior QB who did not get voted captain by his teammates(HUGE red flag)
Poor completion percentage for a college QB(anything under 60% is an issue)

I have only seen him play in the big games Oregon/Michigan and he didn't impress me. Anyone who has seen more of his games, could you please tell me what is to like about this guy? The gurus are high on him too but he seems to be a Ryan Leaf type.

Maturity, is close with Bryce, who we should have drafted. WE can't have a kid starting for us when Drew is done.

SloMotion · 12-11-2015, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by mighty12

Can someone tell me why everyone is so high on Connor Cook? I am not impressed with his talent. He is a game manager in college, would be at best a clipboard holder in the NFL. Kirk Cousins was a better prospect coming out of MSU.

The red flags on him are as follows:
No leadership ability
Senior QB who did not get voted captain by his teammates(HUGE red flag)
Poor completion percentage for a college QB(anything under 60% is an issue)

I have only seen him play in the big games Oregon/Michigan and he didn't impress me. Anyone who has seen more of his games, could you please tell me what is to like about this guy? The gurus are high on him too but he seems to be a Ryan Leaf type.

You probably need to see more than two games to truly appreciate him, IMO. I'm not an Michigan State fan, but I'll give Connor his props. He's something like 38-4 as a starter and probably MSU's most winningest QB, among other school records. BigTen MVP twice, et ... You don't become that by managing games, #shrug. He's a winner/competitor, he shows up for the big games and makes the big plays. He can throw the ball.

Who cares if his teammates didn't vote him captain? Popularity contest, #shrug. There isn't a police incident file on him. He's never stood on a table shouting obscenities, stolen groceries or allegedly done anything that could be construed as inappropriate to a young lady, #shrug.

He's taken his teams to the Rose Bowl, got 'em a couple BigTen Championships and into the BCS a couple times ... plenty of leadership, IMO. As much as any other college QB.

K Major · 12-10-2015, 09:14 AM

I like the big kid from Memphis (Lynch).

Barry from MS · 12-10-2015, 10:22 AM

1. Lynch
2. Goff
These 2 might be starters Day 1, depending on what team they land. They have NFL-caliber qualities, no question.

Hogan, Kessler, Cook, & Prescott could be spot-starters in a few years. I've been more impressed with Hogan & Prescott than Cook over the last 2 years. Boykin...meh...hard to gauge with the defenses he's faced. He's on-the-fence as far as QB's go.

Cardale Jones? Nooooo...his mechanics are horrible and he played, what, 8 games in college? Pass.

QBREES9 · 12-10-2015, 12:25 PM

Cody Kessler (USC)

hagan714 · 12-10-2015, 12:41 PM

Cook i like over the others for one big reason. year in and year out when the chips are down he seems to always come through. I really like his mental toughness.

MSU's Connor Cook wins Unitas award as top QB
Spartans' Connor Cook wins Johnny Unitas award as top QB

Michigan State RUMORS: Connor Cook Viewed As Third-Round Pick In 2016 NFL Draft

Michigan State quarterback Connor Cook is one of the most debated prospects in the upcoming 2016 NFL Draft, and one NFC Scout reportedly views him as a third-round pick and believes that he's an average starter in the league at best, according to Daniel Jeremiah, Charles Davis, and Lance Zierlein of College Football 24/7.

Prior to the start of the 2015 college football regular season, Cook was viewed as a top quarterback prospect for the NFL, and some analysts believed he would be the first pick in 2016. Scouts reportedly continue to argue over Cook and where he stands in the upcoming draft, but it's clear that he has fallen down draft boards across the league his senior year.

Cook has had a strong senior year in East Lansing, throwing for 2,921 yards with 24 touchdowns to 5 interceptions. The Spartans quarterback led his team to a Big Ten Championship and a spot in the College Football Playoff. Scouts continue to question Cook's accuracy, as he has dropped in completion percentage his senior season. Cook had a 56.9 completion percentage this season, and against Iowa in the Big Ten Championship game, he completed 50 percent of his passes and failed to throw a touchdown.
Michigan State RUMORS: Connor Cook Viewed As Third-Round Pick In 2016 NFL Draft : Sports : Headlines & Global News

Remember MSU is one of the leaders in dropped passes I know in 2014 they had 66 drops and I think it would be safe to say they are in that category yet again. He comes out of a pro system unlike the others where you are dealing with a spread offense and inflated states. Big ten is old school smash mouth defense and he faced and beat some of the better defenses in the NCAA.

Sitting and learning from Drew and SP would be huge for the kid. besides I would think his perfect match is Cleveland. I have a hard time seeing the other kids surviving Cleavland if playoffs is your goal. Cleveland in Dec and Jan with those lake winds are a killer..

If by chance he is on the board in the third you gotta take him as if lmao

Rugby Saint II · 12-10-2015, 12:51 PM

We need to let Grayson play some this year and decide if he's the future. Pull Drew before he gets hurt and spends all off season in rehab. By the end of the year we should have a much better feel for the QB position.

hagan714 · 12-11-2015, 06:03 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

We need to let Grayson play some this year and decide if he's the future. Pull Drew before he gets hurt and spends all off season in rehab. By the end of the year we should have a much better feel for the QB position.

so throw in the towel and tank the rest of the season in order to see what we have going into the 2016 off season?

not saying it would be a bad idea

lets see feel that one out after tampa

But, rest Drew up to slap the falcons at the end the season. A plus side for the saints nation would be a must.

12-11-2015, 05:42 PM	#1
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,283	Re: Who is the best quarterback that you think will be available in the 2016 NFL Draft? Originally Posted by hagan714 Not one is ready to step in and play right away IMO. But if forced into starting I would bet on Cook. This is the perfect draft for a team to grab a solid QB and have them sit and learn. the top 3 are all good risks. Still not sold on our pet project from last year. Kevin Hogan - is my teaser. he finally put together a year stanford was hoping for a while now. but was it a one year wonder thing or has he really turned the corner? Cody Kessler may end up being the steal of the draft. Dark horse Dak Prescott just keeps kicking me the head. keep an eye on him Look who he plays for. No thank you.

12-10-2015, 08:39 AM	#2
mighty12 500th Post Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 980 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Who is the best quarterback that you think will be available in the 2016 NFL Draft? Can someone tell me why everyone is so high on Connor Cook? I am not impressed with his talent. He is a game manager in college, would be at best a clipboard holder in the NFL. Kirk Cousins was a better prospect coming out of MSU. The red flags on him are as follows: No leadership ability Senior QB who did not get voted captain by his teammates(HUGE red flag) Poor completion percentage for a college QB(anything under 60% is an issue) I have only seen him play in the big games Oregon/Michigan and he didn't impress me. Anyone who has seen more of his games, could you please tell me what is to like about this guy? The gurus are high on him too but he seems to be a Ryan Leaf type. Barry from MS and frydaddy like this.

12-11-2015, 05:45 PM	#3
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,283	Re: Who is the best quarterback that you think will be available in the 2016 NFL Draft? Originally Posted by mighty12 Can someone tell me why everyone is so high on Connor Cook? I am not impressed with his talent. He is a game manager in college, would be at best a clipboard holder in the NFL. Kirk Cousins was a better prospect coming out of MSU. The red flags on him are as follows: No leadership ability Senior QB who did not get voted captain by his teammates(HUGE red flag) Poor completion percentage for a college QB(anything under 60% is an issue) I have only seen him play in the big games Oregon/Michigan and he didn't impress me. Anyone who has seen more of his games, could you please tell me what is to like about this guy? The gurus are high on him too but he seems to be a Ryan Leaf type. Maturity, is close with Bryce, who we should have drafted. WE can't have a kid starting for us when Drew is done.

12-11-2015, 07:13 PM	#4
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Who is the best quarterback that you think will be available in the 2016 NFL Draft? Originally Posted by mighty12 Can someone tell me why everyone is so high on Connor Cook? I am not impressed with his talent. He is a game manager in college, would be at best a clipboard holder in the NFL. Kirk Cousins was a better prospect coming out of MSU. The red flags on him are as follows: No leadership ability Senior QB who did not get voted captain by his teammates(HUGE red flag) Poor completion percentage for a college QB(anything under 60% is an issue) I have only seen him play in the big games Oregon/Michigan and he didn't impress me. Anyone who has seen more of his games, could you please tell me what is to like about this guy? The gurus are high on him too but he seems to be a Ryan Leaf type. You probably need to see more than two games to truly appreciate him, IMO. I'm not an Michigan State fan, but I'll give Connor his props. He's something like 38-4 as a starter and probably MSU's most winningest QB, among other school records. BigTen MVP twice, et ... You don't become that by managing games, #shrug. He's a winner/competitor, he shows up for the big games and makes the big plays. He can throw the ball. Who cares if his teammates didn't vote him captain? Popularity contest, #shrug. There isn't a police incident file on him. He's never stood on a table shouting obscenities, stolen groceries or allegedly done anything that could be construed as inappropriate to a young lady, #shrug. He's taken his teams to the Rose Bowl, got 'em a couple BigTen Championships and into the BCS a couple times ... plenty of leadership, IMO. As much as any other college QB.

12-10-2015, 09:14 AM	#5
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,828 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Who is the best quarterback that you think will be available in the 2016 NFL Draft? I like the big kid from Memphis (Lynch). Barry from MS likes this.

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Barry from MS Site Donor 2014 Join Date: May 2007 Location: TEMPO VC Okefenokee Swamp Posts: 1,985 Blog Entries: 2	Re: Who is the best quarterback that you think will be available in the 2016 NFL Draft? 1. Lynch 2. Goff These 2 might be starters Day 1, depending on what team they land. They have NFL-caliber qualities, no question. Hogan, Kessler, Cook, & Prescott could be spot-starters in a few years. I've been more impressed with Hogan & Prescott than Cook over the last 2 years. Boykin...meh...hard to gauge with the defenses he's faced. He's on-the-fence as far as QB's go. Cardale Jones? Nooooo...his mechanics are horrible and he played, what, 8 games in college? Pass.

12-10-2015, 12:25 PM	#7
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,990	Re: Who is the best quarterback that you think will be available in the 2016 NFL Draft? Cody Kessler (USC)

12-10-2015, 12:41 PM	#8
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Who is the best quarterback that you think will be available in the 2016 NFL Draft? Cook i like over the others for one big reason. year in and year out when the chips are down he seems to always come through. I really like his mental toughness. MSU's Connor Cook wins Unitas award as top QB Spartans' Connor Cook wins Johnny Unitas award as top QB Michigan State RUMORS: Connor Cook Viewed As Third-Round Pick In 2016 NFL Draft Michigan State quarterback Connor Cook is one of the most debated prospects in the upcoming 2016 NFL Draft, and one NFC Scout reportedly views him as a third-round pick and believes that he's an average starter in the league at best, according to Daniel Jeremiah, Charles Davis, and Lance Zierlein of College Football 24/7. Prior to the start of the 2015 college football regular season, Cook was viewed as a top quarterback prospect for the NFL, and some analysts believed he would be the first pick in 2016. Scouts reportedly continue to argue over Cook and where he stands in the upcoming draft, but it's clear that he has fallen down draft boards across the league his senior year. Cook has had a strong senior year in East Lansing, throwing for 2,921 yards with 24 touchdowns to 5 interceptions. The Spartans quarterback led his team to a Big Ten Championship and a spot in the College Football Playoff. Scouts continue to question Cook's accuracy, as he has dropped in completion percentage his senior season. Cook had a 56.9 completion percentage this season, and against Iowa in the Big Ten Championship game, he completed 50 percent of his passes and failed to throw a touchdown. Michigan State RUMORS: Connor Cook Viewed As Third-Round Pick In 2016 NFL Draft : Sports : Headlines & Global News Remember MSU is one of the leaders in dropped passes I know in 2014 they had 66 drops and I think it would be safe to say they are in that category yet again. He comes out of a pro system unlike the others where you are dealing with a spread offense and inflated states. Big ten is old school smash mouth defense and he faced and beat some of the better defenses in the NCAA. Sitting and learning from Drew and SP would be huge for the kid. besides I would think his perfect match is Cleveland. I have a hard time seeing the other kids surviving Cleavland if playoffs is your goal. Cleveland in Dec and Jan with those lake winds are a killer.. If by chance he is on the board in the third you gotta take him as if lmao SloMotion likes this.
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12-11-2015, 06:03 AM	#10
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Who is the best quarterback that you think will be available in the 2016 NFL Draft? Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II We need to let Grayson play some this year and decide if he's the future. Pull Drew before he gets hurt and spends all off season in rehab. By the end of the year we should have a much better feel for the QB position. so throw in the towel and tank the rest of the season in order to see what we have going into the 2016 off season? not saying it would be a bad idea lets see feel that one out after tampa But, rest Drew up to slap the falcons at the end the season. A plus side for the saints nation would be a must.

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