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brees84 03-21-2016 07:31 AM

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CheramieIII 03-21-2016 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 696700)

What this workout tells me is that the Saints will stick to the 3-4 this year. Fairley will be the starting Nose. It appears we're looking at players who can play linebacker, DE or Safety.

jeanpierre 03-21-2016 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 696699)
Saints worked out Maryland pass rusher Yannick Ngakoue, newspaper reports | NOLA.com

Hagan, what are your thoughts on this guy's production in college? I didn't see any Maryland games last season.

Yannick Ngakoue (en gah ko way) compares as a leaner Hau'oli Kikaha or Pat Swilling; he has progressed well each season, and probably should have played his senior year so he could be a possible first day draft candidate; terrific size for a 3-4 OLB, but lacks the sand to set the edge as a DE in a 3-4 or a Jack in a 4-3 under; needs to develop better hand technique to unlatch blockers; needs to diversify his pass rush portfolio; because of his compact, chiseled frame he'll be limited to a 3rd down pass rusher role until he gets enough bulk to set the edge and help with the run defense; not sure where he fits in Dennis Allen's (aka Gregg Williams') 4-3 system; he's a projected 6th rounder, which we traded away with our 6th rounder last season to move up and take Damian Swann, a projected 6th rounder last season...

K Major 03-21-2016 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 696703)
which we traded away with our 6th rounder last season to move up and take Damian Swann, a projected 6th rounder last season...

Thanks JP. I hope Swann will be OK this season. Lots of discussion about his future, overall health and well being.

jeanpierre 03-21-2016 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 696701)
What this workout tells me is that the Saints will stick to the 3-4 this year. Fairley will be the starting Nose. It appears we're looking at players who can play linebacker, DE or Safety.

Look, as much as I'd love to move to a true 3-4 base (as we've drafted and acquired players to do just that), we haven't been running a 3-4 and likely will not under Dennis Allen, a Gregg Williams trained defensive coach...

And the so-called 4-3 under hasn't been run since we cut loose Galette...

And I'd be very disappointed if we took Jenkins after his Combine and Pro Day performances that high in the draft...

Aside from WR Laquon Treadwell, I'd rather us take Jarran Reed or reach ever so slightly in my book for La Tech's Vernon Butler or reach just a tad more for Clemson DE Kevin Dodd in the first...

Billings, Rankins, Clark, omg especially Clark all will end up being Sedrick Ellis 2.0 - NFThanks...

jeanpierre 03-21-2016 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 696705)
Thanks JP. I hope Swann will be OK this season. Lots of discussion about his future, overall health and well being.

Hey, loved the guys fire, spirit, I just didn't understand why they felt the need to carelessly, casually give two picks to move up and grab a guy that was probably going to be there in the 6th; I'm not optimistic about his health and would rather see the young man step back and really re-consider his future track...

RaginCajun83 03-21-2016 10:37 AM

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DA is a Williams disciple, didn't know that one. Then that settles it, 4-3 defense. Hopefully he learned how to blitz from GW too

hagan714 03-21-2016 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 696699)
Saints worked out Maryland pass rusher Yannick Ngakoue, newspaper reports | NOLA.com

Hagan, what are your thoughts on this guy's production in college? I didn't see any Maryland games last season.

JP pretty much nailed it

What I can say about Marylands defense unit as whole is why I like this group.

There is no reason they did as well as they did and hung in there each and every game. The defense was the heart and soul of the team and they all came to work with their big boy pants on. They played well as a unit. They are all well coached and know their responsibilities.

Athleticism is one thing but having your head screwed on straight is another. blue collar, lunch pail toting players the lot of them. Those that know me know that is a high praise in my book. I went out of my to watch this unit play.

Yannick Ngakoue has probably more upside than the media scouts are giving the kid. He is tough as nails and has a controlled nasty streak in his game. He is the type of player that is pigeon holed as to short and athleticism is questionable. But do not be surprised to see this kid have a long productive career in the NFL.

They talk about his pass rushing a lot or the lack of but do not over look the kids ability to set the edge against the run. Defiantly one of the better ones in the draft. Pass rush is were the upside is under rated in this kid. Should have stayed in school and worked on his moves.

Sean Davis was one of my favs from this team. A leader in a group of players like this says so much more than a leader on an under performing team like OSU for example. Explains my man crush?

hagan714 03-21-2016 11:18 AM

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Jordan Jenkins? is the first thing I would ask, were did you go for half a year? nagging groin injury? I am not to sure I am buying into that 100%. I always thought he was a bit over hyped.

I agree now I am confused again! 34 or 43? which are we?

blackangold 03-21-2016 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 696701)
What this workout tells me is that the Saints will stick to the 3-4 this year. Fairley will be the starting Nose. It appears we're looking at players who can play linebacker, DE or Safety.

Fairley as a NT??
That would be a fish out of water.

Fairley is visiting with the Patriots so I doubt we'll sign the guy now.


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