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hagan714 12-26-2015 11:07 AM
2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ...............
 
Ok some have asked to start the draft bit so with college bowl season getting under way I felt now is a good time. So to keep it simple I started with a loose top 50 with quick one liners for each.

1 Joey Bosa DE Ohio State Jr 6-5 275
just do not see all the hype
2 Laremy Tunsil OT Ole Miss Jr 6-5 305
see upside and solid projection
3 Jalen Ramsey CB Florida State Jr 6-1 202
Jack of all trades master of none. Solid run support and coverage skill
4 Ronnie Stanley OT Notre Dame rJr 6-6 315
RT LT RG LG makes no difference he can do them all
5 Paxton Lynch QB Memphis rJr 6-6 230
One year wonder in a spread offense? scares me
6 Jared Goff QB California Jr 6-4 210
Way to many excuses for the UCLA win loss records for me no deny the skill set
7 Jaylon Smith OLB Notre Dame Jr 6-3 240
ILB/OLB th solid run and coverage skills set.
8 Myles Jack OLB UCLA Jr 6-1 245
Mr impact all over the feild but I question steady play
9 Laquon Treadwell WR Ole Miss Jr 6-2 210
Size hands and great burst in and out of cuts. quick not fast
10 DeForest Buckner DE Oregon Sr 6-7 290
I just do not get all the love. He disappears not only plays but entire games
11 Vernon Hargreaves III CB Florida Jr 5-11 199
Coverage skills are solid but he is a ball tackler first and a drag down tackler second.
12 Taylor Decker OT 3 Ohio State Sr 6-7 315
Solid blocker but I have seen him beat by lesser talent too often
13 Reggie Ragland ILB 1 Alabama Sr 6-2 252
He is the plugger in the draft against the run.
14 Robert Nkemdiche DT Ole Miss Jr 6-3 296
I see the talent on paper but not on the feild
15 Emmanuel Ogbah DE 3 Oklahoma State rJr 6-3 275
Mystery hyped player that is my number one hype temptation
16 Ezekiel Elliott RB 1 Ohio State Jr 6-0 225
Solid all around back
17 Mackensie Alexander CB Clemson rSo 5-10 195
One year wonder? still not sold on him
18 A'Shawn Robinson DT Alabama Jr 6-3 312
Mr steady at DT but nothing flashy
19 Connor Cook QB 3 Michigan State rSr 6-4 220
Mr it aint over till its over. For the QB class of 2016
20 Leonard Floyd OLB 3 Georgia rJr 6-3 232
Talk about disappearing dispirit the talent around him.
21 Andrew Billings DT 3 Baylor Jr 6-1 310
A DT with success against spread offenses is nothing unusual
22 Kenny DT 4 UCLA Jr 6-2 310
A DT with success against spread offenses is nothing unusual for DT but he did play against pro sets
23 Jack Conklin OT 4 Michigan State rJr 6-6 318
Solid OT with upside that will be serviceable for years to come
24 Corey Coleman Injured WR Baylor rJr 5-10 190
Can he survive the NFL?
25 Shaq Lawson DE 4 Clemson rJr 6-3 270
Another 1 year wonder that IMO is less of a risk than Emmanuel Ogbah
26 Jarran Reed DT 5 Alabama Sr 6-3 313
her is my favorite DT on the Bama front 4. He does all the dirty work
27 Jonathan Bullard DE Florida Sr 6-3 283
Were did he go is my question but when he flashes he is good
28 Jonathan Allen DE 5 Alabama Jr 6-3 283
My second favorite of the Bama front 4. Solid well rounded and disciplined.
29 Germain Ifedi OT 5 Texas A&M rJr 6-5 325
Once again spread OT are a project
30 Tre'Davious White CB LSU Jr 5-11 191
All upside pick with plenty to work with but not a finished project
31 Derrick Henry RB 2 Alabama Jr 6-2 242
Need a work horse? look no further
32 Michael Thomas WR 2 Ohio State rJr 6-3 210
A bit of an in enigma to me. Do the QBs take all the blame here?
33 Jason Spriggs OT 6 Indiana Sr 6-6 305
No player in the draft has helped his stock more just with their play alone
34 Josh Doctson Injured WR TCU rSr 6-2 195
Budget buyer version of Treadwell? Faster but skinner
35 *Desmond King CB 5 Iowa Jr 5-11 200
Not flashy Probably the most pro ready CB in the draft. Ramsey and King would solve many problems
36 Noah Spence OLB 4 E. Kentucky rJr 6-3 261
WARNING dude loves his Ecstasy
37 Cody Whitehair OG 1 Kansas State rSr 6-4 309
Limited versatility but a solid guard
38 Jayron Kearse SS 1 Clemson Jr 6-4 220
Oh look at his specs. but worry about mental lapses
39 Adolphus Washington DT Ohio State Sr 6-4 290
Yet another that flashes and tease then disappears
40 Carson WentzInjured QB N. Dakota State Sr 6-5 231
Late to the show media hype darling for QB love?
41 Tyler Boyd WR 5 Pittsburgh Jr 6-2 200
Another solid WR that needs discipline route running work.
42 Su'a Cravens OLB 5 Southern Cal Jr 6-1 225
LB/S which way do you go? love his all out or nothing play.
43 Shilique Calhoun DE Michigan State rSr 6-5 252
Specs look g reat and production is there yet at times i wonder
44 Vadal Alexander OG 2 LSU Sr 6-5 329
Round two steal? If you need a OG that can if need bounce out to OT
45 Austin Johnson DT 7 Penn State rJr 6-3 325
Motor and ability. A rotation player with huge impact ability on a unit
46 Joshua Perry OLB 6 Ohio State Sr 6-4 254
Another all out or nothing reckless abandon player
47 Kendall Fuller injured CB Virginia Tech Jr 6-0 197
I see the flashes but I also see the lapses
48 Vonn Bell SS 2 Ohio State Jr 5-11 205
In todays NFL I see him a bit to old school
49 Pharoh Cooper WR 6 South Carolina Jr 5-11 208
Here is the next solid WR built to take the pounding. Quick but not fast
50 Hunter Henry TE 1 Arkansas Jr 6-5 253
Impact TE that has all around game.

ok let the debates and arguments begin. It is all in good fun :)[I] :handguns:

K Major 12-26-2015 12:27 PM
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Ashawn Robinson is HIGH on my list. Superior run stuffer, consistently beats his man and can get to the QB.

SmashMouth 12-26-2015 03:21 PM
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jeanpierre 12-26-2015 03:54 PM
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Really like WR Laquon Treadwell, Ole Miss; 6' 2", 210lbs for the Saints first round pick...

Marques Colston wasn't a burner, but his size, catch radius, route consistency, and great hands (yes, through most of his career he's had as reliable hands as anyone in the league); Saints need that big x-receiver for the offensive scheme...

For the second round pick, right now, like a couple of guys...

OG Cody Whitehair, Kansas St; 6' 4", 310 lbs...

TE Hunter Henry, Arkansas, 6' 6", 255 lbs...

And if we could commit to the 3-4, I'd like Baylor DE Shawn "Too Tall" Oakman, 6' 8", 280 lbs...

jeanpierre 12-26-2015 03:57 PM
Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ...............
 
This was from a previous thread and are some of the names I've been going back and scouting...

Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 683555)
Had been holding this back out of sensitivity to the Saints onfield struggles...

My ole draft pal Hagan will tell you that I'm all about talking the draft...

So, while things are still very fluid with upcoming Senior/All-Star Games, NFL Combine and Pro Days...

Here's the Way Too Early Ante Senior Bowls JP's Saints Big Board

Draft Prospects Watch List By Round (early favs in bold)...

No. ### (R1, ##) WR LaQuon Treadwell, Ole Miss; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 210 lbs.
No. ### (R1, ##) CB Vernon Hargreaves III, Florida; Height: 5' 11"; Weight: 199 lbs.
No. ### (R1, ##) LB Reggie Ragland, ‘Bama; Height: 6' 2"; Weight: 252 lbs.
No. ### (R1, ##) WR Michael Thomas, Ohio St; Height: 6' 3"; Weight: 210 lbs.
No. ### (R1, ##) DL Kenny Clark, UCLA; Height: 6' 3"; Weight: 308 lbs.


No. ### (R2, ##) DL Shawn Oakman, Baylor; 6' 8", 276 lbs.
No. ### (R2, ##) OG Cody Whitehair, Kansas St; 6' 4", 310 lbs.
No. ### (R2, ##) LB Kendall Beckwith, LSU; 6' 2", 252 lbs.
No. ### (R2, ##) TE Hunter Henry, Arkansas; 6' 5", 253 lbs.
No. ### (R2, ##) FS Darian Thompson, Boise St; 6' 2", 210 lbs.


No. ### (R3, ##) QB Kevin Hogan, Stanford; 6' 4", 218 lbs.
No. ### (R3, ##) OG Greg Pyke, Georgia; 6' 5", 313 lbs.
No. ### (R3, ##) CB Kendall Fuller, Virginia Tech; 6' 0", 197 lbs.*
No. ### (R3, ##) NT Vernon Butler, Louisiana Tech; 6' 3", 309 lbs.
No. ### (R3, ##) RB Kenneth Dixon, Louisiana Tech; 5' 10", 210 lbs.


No. ### (R4, ##) OG Sebastian Tretola, Arkansas; 6’ 5”, 335 lbs.
No. ### (R4, ##) WR Devon Cajuste, Stanford; 6’ 3”, 227 lbs.
No. ### (R4, ##) DE Adam Gotsis, Georgia Tech; 6’ 5”, 287 lbs.
No. ### (R4, ##) DB Deon Bush, Miami (FL); 6’ 1”, 205 lbs.
No. ### (R4, ##) LB Blake Martinez, Stanford; 6' 2", 245 lbs.
 

No. ### (R5, ##) SS Miles Killebrew, Southern Utah; 6’ 2”, 223 lbs.
No. ### (R5, ##) TE Jerrell Adams, South Carolina; 6’ 5”, 232 lbs.
No. ### (R5, ##) OG Joshua Garnett, Stanford; 6’ 4”, 321 lbs.
No. ### (R5, ##) LB Terrance Smith, Florida St; 6’ 3”, 235 lbs.
No. ### (R5, ##) DE Ufomba Kamalu, Miami (FL); 6’ 5”, 295 lbs.


No. ### (R6, ##) NT Christian Hayward, San Diego St; 6' 2", 324 lbs.
No. ### (R6, ##) DB Doug Middleton, Appalachian State; 6' 0", 210 lbs.
No. ### (R6, ##) LB Jared Norris, Utah; 6’ 1”, 240 lbs.
No. ### (R6, ##) DE Joel Heath, Michigan St; 6’ 5”, 296 lbs.
No. ### (R6, ##) OG Joe Dahl, Washington St; 6’ 4”, 303 lbs.


No. ### (R7, ##) P Drew Kaser, Texas A & M; 6' 3", 210 lbs.
No. ### (R7, ##) TE Jake McGee, Florida; 6' 5", 249 lbs.
No. ### (R7, ##) LB Zeek Bigger, East Carolina; 6' 2", 220 lbs.
No. ### (R7, ##) OG Ted Karras, Illinois; 6' 4", 310 lbs.
No. ### (R7, ##) SS Josh Harvey-Clemons, Louisville; 6' 4", 230 lbs.

*Injury status may cause slide

Rugby Saint II 12-26-2015 04:09 PM
Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ...............
 
Hagan. Would you rather draft a guard or move one of the OT's to guard?

hagan714 12-26-2015 11:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 687034)
Hagan. Would you rather draft a guard or move one of the OT's to guard?
Evens is a shell of the player he once was. FA in 2018 yet balancing out dead money vs cap he could be cut in 2017 for a 6 million in cap savings.

Honestly I do not see a replacement on the roster much less a starter at LG.

So I see a need for a starter at LG as a must and the draft looks pretty solid at OG early on. Then draft a solid prospect to develop to take over for Evens at RG.

Round 2 Vadal Alexander RG/LG
Round 2/3 Sebastian Tretola RG

I would be surprised to see Sebastian make it out of round 2 so his team mate would work

Round 3/4 Denver Kirkland*, LG, Arkansas

Are still tops on my wish list at OG for right now

It aint a sexy draft but it would go a long way to settling a few key positions to keep Drew upright and healthy.

Peat needs to spend this off season working on his foot work to be the RT we drafted or the saints need to bite the bullet and put him at LT and TA over at RT. Peats development is key.

If the saints are to survive the next two years and go into the 2017 off season as a cash cow the has to be OL ready. I fear most of cash will be needed to on defense. You bit the bullet on an OT in round one for once do not stop there.

Besides we have a center we will be needing to sign also around that time.

jeanpierre 12-27-2015 12:49 AM
Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ...............
 
Vadal Alexander got his arse kicked by Bama and in following games...

Am not interested in him one bit as a first, second or even a third rounder...

K-State's Whitehair as a second rounder is about as high as I'd go until we get into the all-star games, combines and pro day's...

hagan714 12-27-2015 08:59 AM
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Vadal Alexander is no OT but the move back into OG does not scare me away. actually it peaks my interest. Last year at OG he was much better.

I could live with

Round 3 Sebastian Tretola RG Arkansas

Round 4/5 Denver Kirkland*, LG, Arkansas

A lot of beef up front to boost the run game

halloween 65 12-27-2015 09:02 AM
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Trade Jordan for picks and own this draft like last year. I'm sure Ireland knows what we need. I see OG, OT, DE, TE, WR, OLB, SS, for starters. Need deeper depth at G, T, NT, ILB, and OLB.

SloMotion 12-27-2015 02:10 PM
Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ...............
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 687008)
Ok some have asked to start the draft bit so with college bowl season getting under way I felt now is a good time. So to keep it simple I started with a loose top 50 with quick one liners for each.

1 Joey Bosa DE Ohio State Jr 6-5 275
just do not see all the hype
Agree ... this guy has "Brian Bosworth" written all over him, IMO.

jeanpierre 12-29-2015 03:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 687087)
Vadal Alexander is no OT but the move back into OG does not scare me away. actually it peaks my interest. Last year at OG he was much better.

I could live with

Round 3 Sebastian Tretola RG Arkansas

Round 4/5 Denver Kirkland*, LG, Arkansas

A lot of beef up front to boost the run game
Don't like or trust Alexander, especially after he got his arse whipped by Bama and fell apart toward the end of the season...

Prefer Whitehair in the second round...

The Arkansas guard I've rated fourth round (see previous post) where I think he'll still be after the stockades and meat market...

Agree though, that we have to take at least one guard, if not two in the draft...

hagan714 12-29-2015 06:19 AM
Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ...............
 
Updated 1st-Round Listings After Week 16

11. New Orleans Saints

Hmmm one more win and we will be into the hype zone of the draft

could we actually be picking between 15 and 20 when all is said and done?

what a huge change in players we will be talking about

hagan714 12-29-2015 06:21 AM
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Sebastian Tretola RG Arkansas - Has a great chance of sky rocket in the draft when the senior bowl starts.

this year i am watching the beauty shows really close. more than any year i can remember

Darrell Greene OG 27 San Diego State rSr 6-3 322
Ryker Mathews OT 19 Brigham Young rSr 6-5 320
Tajae Sharpe WR 15 Massachusetts Sr 6-3 200
Aaron Burbridge WR 17 Michigan State Sr 6-1 208
Keyarris Garrett WR 22 Tulsa rSr 6-3 221
Nelson Spruce WR 24 Colorado rSr 6-1 205
Cayleb Jones WR 25 Arizona rJr 6-3 215
*Corey Davis WR 32 Western Michigan Jr 6-3 205
Alonzo Russell WR 45 Toledo rSr 6-4 205
Mitch Mathews WR 51 Brigham Young rSr 6-6 215
Bryce Williams TE 5 East Carolina rSr 6-6 258
LaQuan McGowan TE 20 Baylor Sr 6-6 410
Ryan O'Malley TE 34 Pennsylvania rSr 6-6 265


Austin Johnson DT 7 Penn State rJr 6-3 325
Anthony Zettel DE 13 Penn State rSr 6-4 278
Theiren Cockran DE 21 Minnesota rSr 6-5 257
Jonathan Woodard DE 28 Central Arkansas rSr 6-5 271
Joe Bolden ILB 23 Michigan Sr 6-3 232
Terrance SmithInjured OLB 17 Florida State rSr 6-3 230
De'Vondre Campbell OLB 18 Minnesota rSr 6-4 241
Antwione Williams OLB 34 Georgia Southern Sr 6-3 245
Eric Murray CB 18 Minnesota Sr 5-11 196
Wayne Lyons CB 49 Michigan rSr 6-0 193
Tanner McEvoy FS 8 Wisconsin rSr 6-6 231 6
Sean Davis FS 7 Maryland Sr 6-1 200
Miles Killebrew SS 6 Southern Utah Sr 6-2 223
RJ WilliamsonInjured SS 13 Michigan State rSr 6-0 215
A.J. Hendy SS 40 Maryland rSr 6-1 207
Traveon Henry SS 45 Northwestern Sr 6-1 220
Brad Craddock K 4 Maryland Sr 6-0 192

jeanpierre 12-29-2015 07:42 AM
Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ...............
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 687405)
Sebastian Tretola RG Arkansas - Has a great chance of sky rocket in the draft when the senior bowl starts.
And if he shows more than he has and is worth the grade, I've no problem taking him with a second or third round pick...

With the first rounder, Treadwell is the guy, just hope is still there now that the team has decided to start playing football earlier rather than now that their jobs are on the line...

halloween 65 12-29-2015 06:29 PM
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I"m still going OG in the 1st. I can't see any pick other than on both front lines. Poor pass rush and a gaping hole in the middle has killed us for a while now and Evans is done at OG.

The Dude 12-29-2015 09:34 PM
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Put me in the Treadwell camp.

CharityMike 12-30-2015 12:42 AM
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If Treadwell is there, we can't pass that up, would be a no brainer.

hagan714 12-30-2015 08:14 AM
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I like Treadwell. sold getting in and out of cuts, great going after the ball but he does not have elite break away speed. Which in most cases in the 2016 draft holds true for almost all the WR. this is the year of the possession wr.

could the saints find a true #1 WR in Tredwell?

I think it is a safe pick with little risk.

leg is the only concern and in the famous draft of 2014 when the saints went after Cook he probably would have been a 1/2 round ranked WR in that draft. I would have had him ranked ahead of Kelvin Benjamin. To be honest I would have ranked him with Cook because he is more of a true WR vs a gimmick/slot WR. I still think Cook was a reach for the saints.

Think a shorter version of Mike Evens and a taller version of Jarvis Landry.

He is not as athletic as Landry but he has hands that are close to those of Landry and better than Evens.

I think we saw what kind of WR he will be last week in Allen Robinson of the Jags who has turned into a steal of the second round of the 2014 draft same size and speed, But Treadwell is a polished route runner with better hands which were the biggest knocks against Allen.

Despite the WR hype in the draft I see this as solid yet unspectacular crop of WR in 2016. That pushes Tredwell up in the draft IMO. But well worth praying for as we keep dropping in the draft.

K Major 12-30-2015 08:40 AM
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Still surprised no one is mentioning this dude in their 2016 pre draft conversations ...

How 2 intimidating Alabama 'alpha dogs' took charge of defense | AL.com

Danno or anyone else who has watched a lot of Bama/SEC football this season, feel free to chime in and provide your thoughts and opinions.

Side note: Keep a lazy eye on him tomorrow night down here in Arlington vs MSU.

hagan714 12-30-2015 08:55 AM
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A'Shawn Robinson? he is looking to be a solid option as the saints win there way out of the top 10.

Of all the DL in this draft, he is the one that you know what you are drafting and there is not any hype in his game or ranking. So i officially will say this about Roberson

Robinson actually maybe the safest pick in the first round of the draft.

I compare Robinson with Kawann Short of the Panthers.

If the saints draft, say Austin Johnson Penn St. in the second, who i compare to a poor mans Star Lotulelei issues up front may become a mute issue.

The saints DT/NT rotation would have a chance to become the strongest position on the defense and have a rotation that could rival most teams in the NFL. Elite might be a safe word to use. If the saints go with a 43 defense.

John Jenkins while showing flashes has proven not to be the answer as a starter but can fill the roll as second player off the bench along with Austin Johnson as an active rotation. 50/50 playing time kind of rotation. Practice out of the Ravens playbook till the hotter hand shows itself. Neither can play the time Star Lotulelei does. But the rotation could equal his production IMO

Tyeler Davison rotating with Robinson and maybe Kaleb Eulls who has shown enough to keep around and keep training the kid up as your flex DE/DT player on the depth chart.

A'Shawn Robinson DT
Austin Johnson NT
John Jenkins NT
Tyeler Davison DT
Kaleb Eulls DT/DE

not a bad way to start the 2016 season.

hagan714 12-30-2015 09:54 AM
Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ...............
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 687393)
Don't like or trust Alexander, especially after he got his arse whipped by Bama and fell apart toward the end of the season...

Prefer Whitehair in the second round...

The Arkansas guard I've rated fourth round (see previous post) where I think he'll still be after the stockades and meat market...

Agree though, that we have to take at least one guard, if not two in the draft...
after really watching him play last night, guard is the only position i can see him playing. but the biggest concern i have with him is the fact he appeared lost at the second level when his assignment could not easily be found. kind of a "Which Way Did He Go" comedy skits.


Now Le'Raven Clark of Texas Tech still has my interest as an OT that belongs inside. I read about the kid and all the negatives and I agree the biggest issue with him is he is spread OL that uses his hands too much and that leads to grabbing. Project sure but well worth looking into. round 4? round 5? He did a great job going after second level defensive players.

hagan714 12-30-2015 12:49 PM
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Ok how about a draft like this one. no hyping or projections
R1 OLB MYLES JACK UCLA
R2 DT AUSTIN JOHNSON PENN ST
R3 CB DESMOND KING IOWA
R4 OG SEBASTIAN TRETOLA ARKANSAS
R5 WR TAJAE SHARPE MASSACHUSETTS
R7 DE/OLB THEIREN COCKRAN MINNESOTA

rezburna 12-30-2015 01:10 PM
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We slept on Marcus Peters for off the field issues. I'd take the chance on Nkemdiche.

lee909 12-30-2015 01:20 PM
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Im sick of watching others take chances on guys with 'character' issues. Just in the past few years we have missed out on Mathieu,Burfict,Henderson by refusing to look at these guys

K Major 12-30-2015 01:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 687551)
Ok how about a draft like this one. no hyping or projections
R1 OLB MYLES JACK UCLA
Like him too. He could be a difference maker at the next level ... he could cover the likes of Austin Jenkins or all world Greg Olsen (we know all too well) but as others have stated, "F/A for cost friendly players - fill our needs there".

When the draft rolls around, take the best player available. If it's Treadwell, Hargreaves, Jack etc ... I'd be cool with that :smokin:.

hagan714 12-31-2015 07:44 AM
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with spiller on IR and the smell of injury settlement in the air I have a RB I want to bring up.

C.J. Prosise RB/WR Notre Dame 6011 220 4.62

I really think that 4.62 listing is wrong. He may not be a 4.40 guy but a 4.62? I just do not see it on the field. Any ways if his time is wrong i hope the saints take a hard long look at the kid.

Two years working in the slot for the Irish before moving into the backfield as a RB really peaks my interest.

vision, burst, ability to make you miss, long speed and he’s tough to bring down.

zone-stretch scheme, power-blocking, the I-formation or the Spread Offense.

a complete back? pretty darn close

pass-protection is solid but there is room for improvement.

2016 look ahead at Hightower? he might have played his way out of town given the cap situation.

2016 WR? Looks like we have 4 on the roster. Now a RB that can or better yet has played in the slot could be a smart move. Opening up an additional roster spot for another position of need. He was a DB coming out of high school.

Yet he still has another year of eligibility left and has yet declared. If he gets a 3/4 projection he may just go to NFL. Which I have a hard time seeing him improving on based on the fact he does not have that WOW speed factor. 4.5 range seems about right.

If he get the 5/6 tag for the draft i am banking he will return to ND.

This does not look 4.6 speed to me

The Dude 12-31-2015 09:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 687555)
We slept on Marcus Peters for off the field issues. I'd take the chance on Nkemdiche.
I don't know that it is a character issue more than the fact he is a moron issue. Any time someone freaks out on that mojo and spends time in a psyche hospital and then turns around and does it again is a moron. That stuff isn't addictive which means he chose to do it again. That stuff is wayyyyyy more likely to give you a psychotic episode than even LSD. I know many hard core drug users who won't touch that stuff. If he is willing to risk a psychotic episode just to smoke something that won't show up on tests what else might he do

rezburna 12-31-2015 11:42 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 687612)
I don't know that it is a character issue more than the fact he is a moron issue. Any time someone freaks out on that mojo and spends time in a psyche hospital and then turns around and does it again is a moron. That stuff isn't addictive which means he chose to do it again. That stuff is wayyyyyy more likely to give you a psychotic episode than even LSD. I know many hard core drug users who won't touch that stuff. If he is willing to risk a psychotic episode just to smoke something that won't show up on tests what else might he do
Make the Pro Bowl as a rookie after a 59 tackle, 8 interception season.

lee909 12-31-2015 11:49 AM
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He's fantastic but Breaux and Lewis can be just as good

brees84 01-01-2016 09:22 AM
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One of those please. Anthony needs some help...

Crusader 01-01-2016 09:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 687698)
https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/st...74925308891136

One of those please. Anthony needs some help...
That all depends on what type of defensive system we will run. I hope the Saints really commits to a 4-3. Then an ILB wouldn't be our greatest need, Anthony will man that position for years to come. We would need another OLB thou.

rezburna 01-01-2016 09:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 687623)
He's fantastic but Breaux and Lewis can be just as good
Lewis is almost 30. We have to keep an eye on him. Injuries ate mounting.

hagan714 01-01-2016 10:36 AM
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Are we going 34 or 43?

If Dennis Allen Is the DC odds are we will be going 43 defense. So ILB would be a mute issue unless Anthony is to learn a totally new position as an OLB.

Picking at would be 11th it appears the hyped impact players would be off the board and we would once again pray for some one to drop into our lap. Right now I have Jalen Ramsey as one of the top players to drop in the draft. so we may get lucky. Myles Jack just keeps popping up. Is it really a reach for A'Shawn Robinson?

Win Sunday and some interference from the foot ball gods we could end up picking in between 15 and 18. Now it gets interesting lol

K Major 01-01-2016 11:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 687698)
https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/st...74925308891136

One of those please. Anthony needs some help...
+1. And that Bama front 7 is, well ... nasty. You didn't hear A'Shawn Rob name called much (constant double teamed) but Allen, Ragland & Reed were just as good.

IMO all of the aforementioned players will be difference makers on Sunday. Hopefully Ireland and his staff takes a good look at these guys moving forward.

voodooido 01-01-2016 01:39 PM
Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ...............
 
Looks like we will be somewhere between 10-13. Unless a couple of top dogs fall I would trade back to about 20. It would give us another rd 2 which we really need.

jeanpierre 01-01-2016 01:56 PM
Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ...............
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 687537)
Still surprised no one is mentioning this dude in their 2016 pre draft conversations ...

How 2 intimidating Alabama 'alpha dogs' took charge of defense | AL.com

Danno or anyone else who has watched a lot of Bama/SEC football this season, feel free to chime in and provide your thoughts and opinions.

Side note: Keep a lazy eye on him tomorrow night down here in Arlington vs MSU.
Curious to see them in the all-star bowl games; but they've only gotten better, especially since the LSU game...

voodooido 01-01-2016 02:00 PM
Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ...............
 
Mackensie Alexander CB Clemson or Vernon Hargreaves III CB Florida in Rd 1.
Vadal Alexander OG 2 LSU, Josh Doctson WR TCU, Beckwith LB LSU or Joshua Perry OLB Ohio State in the 2nd rd
Vernon Butler DT La Tech, Pharoah Cooper WR SC in the 3rd
Josh Garnett OG Stanford, Carl Nassib DE Penn St. in the 4th.

Anything like this I would love.

nola_swammi 01-01-2016 04:59 PM
Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ...............
 
For the very 1st time, I wouldn't mind losing to the Falcons, in fact, I hope we do lose

vpheughan 01-01-2016 06:16 PM
Re: 2016 NFL Draft Prospect Thread ...............
 
Shayne Graham kicks the winner 54 yds right down the middle!


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