Drew Brees will need to take 'hometown discount' to stay after 2015, report says

AsylumGuido · 12-27-2015, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

It's the Tom Brady move. He did this and the media pleasures themselves raw over how amazing it was that he took a "pay cut" even though he ended up making the same amount just without the same cap hit to the team.

Yup, and increased his guarantee. That is the win/win I mentioned earlier in this thread ... and about five hundred other times over the past three years on this site.

AsylumGuido · 12-27-2015, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Yep, he'll restructure, get more guaranteed money from the Saints and fans/media will call it a "pay cut."

Fans I can understand, but the sports media should know better.

No, I have worked with the sports media (was one) and the average one knows less about finance than your average homeless person. Honestly.

voodooido · 12-27-2015, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

I doubt the Saints put it that bluntly to Brees.

NFL Network reporter Ian Rapoport wrote "I'm told he has to take a hometown discount to return."

Drew Brees will need to take 'hometown discount' to stay after 2015, report says | NOLA.com

Not really a "hometown discount". It would be just bringing his contract back to the real world. He will extend it by a year and knock it down to 20 million a year. Saves the Saints 10 million and he gets to retire a Saint. No team will trade for Brees at 30 million. It just won't happen. Either he fixes it or the team will be in cap hell again next year. No cutting or trading at this point.

halloween 65 · 12-27-2015, 07:16 PM

Depends how the O-line gets fixed wheathr Brees is worth whatever he gets or don't get. I would hate to see a high dollar qb. having to run for his life. Brees isn't a spring chicken anymore.

hagan714 · 12-27-2015, 09:19 PM

from super bowl talk to tar and feathers and run him out of town on on a rail.

talk about bandwagon jumper. pencil them down as fair weather fans at best.

The Dude · 12-27-2015, 09:32 PM

We lose Brees and we can kiss being competitive bye bye for several years. He is still a better option than anyone else out there or anyone else in the next couple of years drafts. He has plenty left in the tank. Get a good receiver in the draft and be on the lookout for a replacement that can come in in a year or two and sit for a year before taking over. Brees can still get it done at an elite level for two or three more years if we can get him another receiver to throw to and some help up front.
No sense in getting rid of a franchise QB just because it feels like time for a change from some fans.

Extend his contract like the above poster said.

We can afford a defense. We have more money tied up in defense than we do in offense if you exclude Brees. Loomis got us the money to build a very good defense. The scouting and coaching staff just made poor choices on who to spend that money on.

lumm0x · 12-28-2015, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

We lose Brees and we can kiss being competitive bye bye for several years. He is still a better option than anyone else out there or anyone else in the next couple of years drafts. He has plenty left in the tank. Get a good receiver in the draft and be on the lookout for a replacement that can come in in a year or two and sit for a year before taking over. Brees can still get it done at an elite level for two or three more years if we can get him another receiver to throw to and some help up front.
No sense in getting rid of a franchise QB just because it feels like time for a change from some fans.

Extend his contract like the above poster said.

We can afford a defense. We have more money tied up in defense than we do in offense if you exclude Brees. Loomis got us the money to build a very good defense. The scouting and coaching staff just made poor choices on who to spend that money on.

100%. Brees isn't the problem. He is performing. It's the wasted money on bad defensive choices like Gallete, Browner and Byrd. Re-structuring Brees lets him put more money in the bank immediately and extends that cap hit over 2-3 more years to make it respectable and allow us a rebuild. Anyone wanting to see Grayson right now and Brees traded is a crack pot in my opinion. This can be fixed with the right draft and some shrewd FA signings.

Crusader · 12-28-2015, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by lumm0x

100%. Brees isn't the problem. He is performing. It's the wasted money on bad defensive choices like Gallete, Browner and Byrd. Re-structuring Brees lets him put more money in the bank immediately and extends that cap hit over 2-3 more years to make it respectable and allow us a rebuild. Anyone wanting to see Grayson right now and Brees traded is a crack pot in my opinion. This can be fixed with the right draft and some shrewd FA signings.

If he would restructure over 5 years and play say 2 more years and the retire. What would happen then? Would there be a cap hit?

Danno · 12-28-2015, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by Crusader

If he would restructure over 5 years and play say 2 more years and the retire. What would happen then? Would there be a cap hit?

Here's a very simple example...

He’s due 20 million this season (He’s already been paid the original 10 million in bonus)

Lets say his market value is 20 million

We re-sign him to a 5 year deal, with 25 million in bonus money, its really a 3 year deal..
His cap hits are now…

2016 – 5 million + 10 (cap hit 15 million)
2017 – 5 million + 10 (cap hit 15 million)
2018 – 5 million + 10 (cap hit 15 million)

At this point he has pocketed 55 million from the Saints.

2019 – 5 million + 10 (cap hit 15 million, if cut it costs us 10 million in dead money)
2020 – 5 million + 10 (cap hit 15 million, if cut it costs us 5 million in dead money)

K Major · 12-27-2015, 09:40 PM

Why won't Ian Rappaport ever report us getting rid of McMahon, Bill Johnson, Vitt or #39??

12-27-2015, 07:02 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Drew Brees will need to take 'hometown discount' to stay after 2015, report says Originally Posted by ChrisXVI It's the Tom Brady move. He did this and the media pleasures themselves raw over how amazing it was that he took a "pay cut" even though he ended up making the same amount just without the same cap hit to the team. Yup, and increased his guarantee. That is the win/win I mentioned earlier in this thread ... and about five hundred other times over the past three years on this site. Halo and spkb25 like this.

12-27-2015, 07:00 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Drew Brees will need to take 'hometown discount' to stay after 2015, report says Originally Posted by Danno Yep, he'll restructure, get more guaranteed money from the Saints and fans/media will call it a "pay cut." Fans I can understand, but the sports media should know better. No, I have worked with the sports media (was one) and the average one knows less about finance than your average homeless person. Honestly. Halo and Beastmode like this.

12-27-2015, 06:25 PM	#3
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,819	Re: Drew Brees will need to take 'hometown discount' to stay after 2015, report says Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 I doubt the Saints put it that bluntly to Brees. NFL Network reporter Ian Rapoport wrote "I'm told he has to take a hometown discount to return." Drew Brees will need to take 'hometown discount' to stay after 2015, report says \| NOLA.com Not really a "hometown discount". It would be just bringing his contract back to the real world. He will extend it by a year and knock it down to 20 million a year. Saves the Saints 10 million and he gets to retire a Saint. No team will trade for Brees at 30 million. It just won't happen. Either he fixes it or the team will be in cap hell again next year. No cutting or trading at this point. spkb25 likes this.
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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Drew Brees will need to take 'hometown discount' to stay after 2015, report says Depends how the O-line gets fixed wheathr Brees is worth whatever he gets or don't get. I would hate to see a high dollar qb. having to run for his life. Brees isn't a spring chicken anymore. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Drew Brees will need to take 'hometown discount' to stay after 2015, report says from super bowl talk to tar and feathers and run him out of town on on a rail. talk about bandwagon jumper. pencil them down as fair weather fans at best.

12-27-2015, 09:32 PM	#6
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: Drew Brees will need to take 'hometown discount' to stay after 2015, report says We lose Brees and we can kiss being competitive bye bye for several years. He is still a better option than anyone else out there or anyone else in the next couple of years drafts. He has plenty left in the tank. Get a good receiver in the draft and be on the lookout for a replacement that can come in in a year or two and sit for a year before taking over. Brees can still get it done at an elite level for two or three more years if we can get him another receiver to throw to and some help up front. No sense in getting rid of a franchise QB just because it feels like time for a change from some fans. Extend his contract like the above poster said. We can afford a defense. We have more money tied up in defense than we do in offense if you exclude Brees. Loomis got us the money to build a very good defense. The scouting and coaching staff just made poor choices on who to spend that money on. Halo, lumm0x, SapperSaint and 4 others like this.
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12-28-2015, 10:47 AM	#7
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Re: Drew Brees will need to take 'hometown discount' to stay after 2015, report says Originally Posted by The Dude We lose Brees and we can kiss being competitive bye bye for several years. He is still a better option than anyone else out there or anyone else in the next couple of years drafts. He has plenty left in the tank. Get a good receiver in the draft and be on the lookout for a replacement that can come in in a year or two and sit for a year before taking over. Brees can still get it done at an elite level for two or three more years if we can get him another receiver to throw to and some help up front. No sense in getting rid of a franchise QB just because it feels like time for a change from some fans. Extend his contract like the above poster said. We can afford a defense. We have more money tied up in defense than we do in offense if you exclude Brees. Loomis got us the money to build a very good defense. The scouting and coaching staff just made poor choices on who to spend that money on. 100%. Brees isn't the problem. He is performing. It's the wasted money on bad defensive choices like Gallete, Browner and Byrd. Re-structuring Brees lets him put more money in the bank immediately and extends that cap hit over 2-3 more years to make it respectable and allow us a rebuild. Anyone wanting to see Grayson right now and Brees traded is a crack pot in my opinion. This can be fixed with the right draft and some shrewd FA signings. Rugby Saint II likes this.

12-28-2015, 12:25 PM	#8
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,030	Re: Drew Brees will need to take 'hometown discount' to stay after 2015, report says Originally Posted by lumm0x 100%. Brees isn't the problem. He is performing. It's the wasted money on bad defensive choices like Gallete, Browner and Byrd. Re-structuring Brees lets him put more money in the bank immediately and extends that cap hit over 2-3 more years to make it respectable and allow us a rebuild. Anyone wanting to see Grayson right now and Brees traded is a crack pot in my opinion. This can be fixed with the right draft and some shrewd FA signings. If he would restructure over 5 years and play say 2 more years and the retire. What would happen then? Would there be a cap hit?

12-28-2015, 01:12 PM	#9
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Re: Drew Brees will need to take 'hometown discount' to stay after 2015, report says Originally Posted by Crusader If he would restructure over 5 years and play say 2 more years and the retire. What would happen then? Would there be a cap hit? Here's a very simple example... He’s due 20 million this season (He’s already been paid the original 10 million in bonus) Lets say his market value is 20 million We re-sign him to a 5 year deal, with 25 million in bonus money, its really a 3 year deal.. His cap hits are now… 2016 – 5 million + 10 (cap hit 15 million) 2017 – 5 million + 10 (cap hit 15 million) 2018 – 5 million + 10 (cap hit 15 million) At this point he has pocketed 55 million from the Saints. 2019 – 5 million + 10 (cap hit 15 million, if cut it costs us 10 million in dead money) 2020 – 5 million + 10 (cap hit 15 million, if cut it costs us 5 million in dead money) Rugby Saint II and darksoul35 like this.

12-27-2015, 09:40 PM	#10
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Drew Brees will need to take 'hometown discount' to stay after 2015, report says Why won't Ian Rappaport ever report us getting rid of McMahon, Bill Johnson, Vitt or #39?? Halo and jnormand like this.