Strief a Saint or taking his ball and going home

rezburna · 01-01-2016, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

C'mon Rez, I'm as critical as the next man when it comes to aging players but overrated? Zach is a long time starter however father time has caught up with him. He has been the starter since Stinchcomb retired, no? I wish we had the 2011 Strief but unfortunately he is past his prime.

I also think Zach was good for many years.

I think Strief was overrated for many years.The same way he's been getting beat all year is what I always saw out of him. Brees just stepped up and out of the way of plenty of killshots. When he hit the market nobody went after him.

skymike · 01-02-2016, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I think Strief was overrated for many years.The same way he's been getting beat all year is what I always saw out of him. Brees just stepped up and out of the way of plenty of killshots. When he hit the market nobody went after him.

and so who else on the roster has taken his spot?
Who do you want in our lineup to take his place? Im game, if they can do the job better.
He's one of the best athletes in America.
He's a starting right tackle in the NFL, and has been for several years, with no challengers.
In the NFL's #1 productive offense.

SloMotion · 01-03-2016, 04:47 AM

Originally Posted by skymike

... He's a starting right tackle in the NFL, and has been for several years, with no challengers.
In the NFL's #1 productive offense.

^^ This ^^. Somebody obviously held him in high regard,

.

It's a thankless job, O/L. Everyone notices when you make a mistake, everyone else gets the credit when you do your job. You go home at the end of the day in a lot of pain and usually only with the satisfaction of doing a job that nobody really wants or can do, because you rarely make the big bucks.

Guy wants to retire a Saint, the team he started with, instead of bouncing around the league trying to squeeze every last payroll dollar out of the game, speaks volumes in regards to his character and his experience with the organization, IMO.

Put him in the FO or on the coaching staff, whatever, but you want to keep this type of guy around, just sayin'.

rezburna · 01-03-2016, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by skymike

and so who else on the roster has taken his spot?
Who do you want in our lineup to take his place? Im game, if they can do the job better.
He's one of the best athletes in America.
He's a starting right tackle in the NFL, and has been for several years, with no challengers.
In the NFL's #1 productive offense.

Just because our front office was inept when it came to replacing him doesn't mean he should have been starting for all these years. They drafted Peat for obvious reasons. The writing has been on the wall. They put faith in the interior line hoping it could mask the issues at Tackle, and at times it did. They never brought anybody in to challenge Strief. He's not overrated according to his draft position, he's overrated by the Saints fan base. At his best he was average. An above average run blocker, and a sub par pass blocker. Speed rushers destroyed him time and time again. We had this conversation about Strief like 3 years ago and I said it then. People tried to use PFF as a reference. Strief has always been a liability on the right side.

skymike · 01-04-2016, 07:08 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Just because our front office was inept when it came to replacing him doesn't mean he should have been starting for all these years. They drafted Peat for obvious reasons. The writing has been on the wall. They put faith in the interior line hoping it could mask the issues at Tackle, and at times it did. They never brought anybody in to challenge Strief. He's not overrated according to his draft position, he's overrated by the Saints fan base. At his best he was average. An above average run blocker, and a sub par pass blocker. Speed rushers destroyed him time and time again. We had this conversation about Strief like 3 years ago and I said it then. People tried to use PFF as a reference. Strief has always been a liability on the right side.

He was Nails yesterday.
He'll be back next year.
GEAUX Zach!

blackangold · 01-02-2016, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I think Strief was overrated for many years.The same way he's been getting beat all year is what I always saw out of him. Brees just stepped up and out of the way of plenty of killshots. When he hit the market nobody went after him.

Wouldn't say he is great by any means, but he is an above average RT.

Not too sure how you can be overrated when drafted in the 7th round.

01-02-2016, 05:45 PM	#2
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Strief a Saint or taking his ball and going home Originally Posted by rezburna I think Strief was overrated for many years.The same way he's been getting beat all year is what I always saw out of him. Brees just stepped up and out of the way of plenty of killshots. When he hit the market nobody went after him. and so who else on the roster has taken his spot? Who do you want in our lineup to take his place? Im game, if they can do the job better. He's one of the best athletes in America. He's a starting right tackle in the NFL, and has been for several years, with no challengers. In the NFL's #1 productive offense. SloMotion likes this.

01-03-2016, 04:47 AM	#3
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Strief a Saint or taking his ball and going home Originally Posted by skymike ... He's a starting right tackle in the NFL, and has been for several years, with no challengers. In the NFL's #1 productive offense. ^^ This ^^. Somebody obviously held him in high regard, . It's a thankless job, O/L. Everyone notices when you make a mistake, everyone else gets the credit when you do your job. You go home at the end of the day in a lot of pain and usually only with the satisfaction of doing a job that nobody really wants or can do, because you rarely make the big bucks. Guy wants to retire a Saint, the team he started with, instead of bouncing around the league trying to squeeze every last payroll dollar out of the game, speaks volumes in regards to his character and his experience with the organization, IMO. Put him in the FO or on the coaching staff, whatever, but you want to keep this type of guy around, just sayin'. halloween 65 likes this.

01-03-2016, 09:39 AM	#4
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,114	Re: Strief a Saint or taking his ball and going home Originally Posted by skymike and so who else on the roster has taken his spot? Who do you want in our lineup to take his place? Im game, if they can do the job better. He's one of the best athletes in America. He's a starting right tackle in the NFL, and has been for several years, with no challengers. In the NFL's #1 productive offense. Just because our front office was inept when it came to replacing him doesn't mean he should have been starting for all these years. They drafted Peat for obvious reasons. The writing has been on the wall. They put faith in the interior line hoping it could mask the issues at Tackle, and at times it did. They never brought anybody in to challenge Strief. He's not overrated according to his draft position, he's overrated by the Saints fan base. At his best he was average. An above average run blocker, and a sub par pass blocker. Speed rushers destroyed him time and time again. We had this conversation about Strief like 3 years ago and I said it then. People tried to use PFF as a reference. Strief has always been a liability on the right side.
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01-04-2016, 07:08 AM	#5
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Strief a Saint or taking his ball and going home Originally Posted by rezburna Just because our front office was inept when it came to replacing him doesn't mean he should have been starting for all these years. They drafted Peat for obvious reasons. The writing has been on the wall. They put faith in the interior line hoping it could mask the issues at Tackle, and at times it did. They never brought anybody in to challenge Strief. He's not overrated according to his draft position, he's overrated by the Saints fan base. At his best he was average. An above average run blocker, and a sub par pass blocker. Speed rushers destroyed him time and time again. We had this conversation about Strief like 3 years ago and I said it then. People tried to use PFF as a reference. Strief has always been a liability on the right side. He was Nails yesterday. He'll be back next year. GEAUX Zach! Crusader likes this.

01-02-2016, 07:40 PM	#6
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Strief a Saint or taking his ball and going home Originally Posted by rezburna I think Strief was overrated for many years.The same way he's been getting beat all year is what I always saw out of him. Brees just stepped up and out of the way of plenty of killshots. When he hit the market nobody went after him. Wouldn't say he is great by any means, but he is an above average RT. Not too sure how you can be overrated when drafted in the 7th round. skymike and SloMotion like this.

01-01-2016, 11:55 PM	#1
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,114	Re: Strief a Saint or taking his ball and going home Originally Posted by K Major C'mon Rez, I'm as critical as the next man when it comes to aging players but overrated? Zach is a long time starter however father time has caught up with him. He has been the starter since Stinchcomb retired, no? I wish we had the 2011 Strief but unfortunately he is past his prime. I also think Zach was good for many years. I think Strief was overrated for many years.The same way he's been getting beat all year is what I always saw out of him. Brees just stepped up and out of the way of plenty of killshots. When he hit the market nobody went after him.

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