Strief a Saint or taking his ball and going home

rezburna · 01-02-2016, 12:55 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

C'mon Rez, I'm as critical as the next man when it comes to aging players but overrated? Zach is a long time starter however father time has caught up with him. He has been the starter since Stinchcomb retired, no? I wish we had the 2011 Strief but unfortunately he is past his prime.

I also think Zach was good for many years.

I think Strief was overrated for many years.The same way he's been getting beat all year is what I always saw out of him. Brees just stepped up and out of the way of plenty of killshots. When he hit the market nobody went after him.

halloween 65 · 01-02-2016, 09:01 AM

He's been a blue collar RT. Nothing flashy but able to do his job. Now the wear and tear has started showing I think he could be a decent backup and hopefully mentors Peat to become the next starting RT. We could have did alot worst than Strief, he's been solid enough for a very good O over the years and hope he does retire with the Saints, he's earned it.

Rugby Saint II · 01-02-2016, 06:31 PM

I know it's not popular but he usually grades out well by PFF.

skymike · 01-02-2016, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by Crusader

Strief is a solid tackle but seems like an even greater guy!

He is a good guy. I met him at training camp in Jackson, MS, after practice, and he had time to sign tons of autographs & take pics w/ my kids. My pic. with him is one of my favorites, and one of the funniest you'll see.

skymike · 01-02-2016, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I think Strief was overrated for many years.The same way he's been getting beat all year is what I always saw out of him. Brees just stepped up and out of the way of plenty of killshots. When he hit the market nobody went after him.

and so who else on the roster has taken his spot?
Who do you want in our lineup to take his place? Im game, if they can do the job better.
He's one of the best athletes in America.
He's a starting right tackle in the NFL, and has been for several years, with no challengers.
In the NFL's #1 productive offense.

blackangold · 01-02-2016, 08:39 PM

Would like to see him back as a back-up for both OT and OG spots.

He also adds a lot of value as a leader on the team, essentially he is a coach in the locker-room. We saw how valuable that type of player is when we cut Jenkins and Harper. You can't judge a players value by just looking at his contribution on the field. Hell, even Vilma was valuable to us in his last few years, the guy didn't play but you would always see him coaching on the sideline.

Off topic, but I would love to see Vitt get cut loose and us bring Vilma in as the LB coach.

blackangold · 01-02-2016, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I think Strief was overrated for many years.The same way he's been getting beat all year is what I always saw out of him. Brees just stepped up and out of the way of plenty of killshots. When he hit the market nobody went after him.

Wouldn't say he is great by any means, but he is an above average RT.

Not too sure how you can be overrated when drafted in the 7th round.

K Major · 01-03-2016, 12:25 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Off topic, but I would love to see Vitt get cut loose and us bring Vilma in as the LB coach.

Not sure if you ever catch Pro Football talk w/Florio, but when Vilma is on air he has been pretty good. I think he will opt for full time TV broadcasting vs the grind of coaching.

blackangold · 01-03-2016, 01:05 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Not sure if you ever catch Pro Football talk w/Florio, but when Vilma is on air he has been pretty good. I think he will opt for full time TV broadcasting vs the grind of coaching.

I don't doubt that, but some times the football itch can't be scratched unless your back on the field in some capacity. We all love and miss Vilma. I'm sure he won't be coaching for the Saints, it's just a pipe dream for me.

SloMotion · 01-03-2016, 05:47 AM

Originally Posted by skymike

... He's a starting right tackle in the NFL, and has been for several years, with no challengers.
In the NFL's #1 productive offense.

^^ This ^^. Somebody obviously held him in high regard,

.

It's a thankless job, O/L. Everyone notices when you make a mistake, everyone else gets the credit when you do your job. You go home at the end of the day in a lot of pain and usually only with the satisfaction of doing a job that nobody really wants or can do, because you rarely make the big bucks.

Guy wants to retire a Saint, the team he started with, instead of bouncing around the league trying to squeeze every last payroll dollar out of the game, speaks volumes in regards to his character and his experience with the organization, IMO.

Put him in the FO or on the coaching staff, whatever, but you want to keep this type of guy around, just sayin'.

01-02-2016, 12:55 AM	#11
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,935	Re: Strief a Saint or taking his ball and going home Originally Posted by K Major C'mon Rez, I'm as critical as the next man when it comes to aging players but overrated? Zach is a long time starter however father time has caught up with him. He has been the starter since Stinchcomb retired, no? I wish we had the 2011 Strief but unfortunately he is past his prime. I also think Zach was good for many years. I think Strief was overrated for many years.The same way he's been getting beat all year is what I always saw out of him. Brees just stepped up and out of the way of plenty of killshots. When he hit the market nobody went after him.

01-02-2016, 09:01 AM	#12
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Strief a Saint or taking his ball and going home He's been a blue collar RT. Nothing flashy but able to do his job. Now the wear and tear has started showing I think he could be a decent backup and hopefully mentors Peat to become the next starting RT. We could have did alot worst than Strief, he's been solid enough for a very good O over the years and hope he does retire with the Saints, he's earned it. SloMotion and darksoul35 like this.

01-02-2016, 06:31 PM	#13
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: Strief a Saint or taking his ball and going home I know it's not popular but he usually grades out well by PFF. SloMotion likes this.

01-02-2016, 06:42 PM	#14
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Strief a Saint or taking his ball and going home Originally Posted by Crusader Strief is a solid tackle but seems like an even greater guy! He is a good guy. I met him at training camp in Jackson, MS, after practice, and he had time to sign tons of autographs & take pics w/ my kids. My pic. with him is one of my favorites, and one of the funniest you'll see.

01-02-2016, 06:45 PM	#15
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: Strief a Saint or taking his ball and going home Originally Posted by rezburna I think Strief was overrated for many years.The same way he's been getting beat all year is what I always saw out of him. Brees just stepped up and out of the way of plenty of killshots. When he hit the market nobody went after him. and so who else on the roster has taken his spot? Who do you want in our lineup to take his place? Im game, if they can do the job better. He's one of the best athletes in America. He's a starting right tackle in the NFL, and has been for several years, with no challengers. In the NFL's #1 productive offense. SloMotion likes this.

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01-02-2016, 08:39 PM	#16
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Strief a Saint or taking his ball and going home Would like to see him back as a back-up for both OT and OG spots. He also adds a lot of value as a leader on the team, essentially he is a coach in the locker-room. We saw how valuable that type of player is when we cut Jenkins and Harper. You can't judge a players value by just looking at his contribution on the field. Hell, even Vilma was valuable to us in his last few years, the guy didn't play but you would always see him coaching on the sideline. Off topic, but I would love to see Vitt get cut loose and us bring Vilma in as the LB coach.

01-02-2016, 08:40 PM	#17
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Strief a Saint or taking his ball and going home Originally Posted by rezburna I think Strief was overrated for many years.The same way he's been getting beat all year is what I always saw out of him. Brees just stepped up and out of the way of plenty of killshots. When he hit the market nobody went after him. Wouldn't say he is great by any means, but he is an above average RT. Not too sure how you can be overrated when drafted in the 7th round. skymike and SloMotion like this.

01-03-2016, 12:25 AM	#18
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Strief a Saint or taking his ball and going home Originally Posted by blackangold Off topic, but I would love to see Vitt get cut loose and us bring Vilma in as the LB coach. Not sure if you ever catch Pro Football talk w/Florio, but when Vilma is on air he has been pretty good. I think he will opt for full time TV broadcasting vs the grind of coaching.

01-03-2016, 01:05 AM	#19
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Strief a Saint or taking his ball and going home Originally Posted by K Major Not sure if you ever catch Pro Football talk w/Florio, but when Vilma is on air he has been pretty good. I think he will opt for full time TV broadcasting vs the grind of coaching. I don't doubt that, but some times the football itch can't be scratched unless your back on the field in some capacity. We all love and miss Vilma. I'm sure he won't be coaching for the Saints, it's just a pipe dream for me.

01-03-2016, 05:47 AM	#20
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Strief a Saint or taking his ball and going home Originally Posted by skymike ... He's a starting right tackle in the NFL, and has been for several years, with no challengers. In the NFL's #1 productive offense. ^^ This ^^. Somebody obviously held him in high regard, . It's a thankless job, O/L. Everyone notices when you make a mistake, everyone else gets the credit when you do your job. You go home at the end of the day in a lot of pain and usually only with the satisfaction of doing a job that nobody really wants or can do, because you rarely make the big bucks. Guy wants to retire a Saint, the team he started with, instead of bouncing around the league trying to squeeze every last payroll dollar out of the game, speaks volumes in regards to his character and his experience with the organization, IMO. Put him in the FO or on the coaching staff, whatever, but you want to keep this type of guy around, just sayin'. halloween 65 likes this.

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