Strief a Saint or taking his ball and going home

SloMotion · 01-03-2016, 04:47 AM

Originally Posted by skymike

... He's a starting right tackle in the NFL, and has been for several years, with no challengers.
In the NFL's #1 productive offense.

^^ This ^^. Somebody obviously held him in high regard,

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It's a thankless job, O/L. Everyone notices when you make a mistake, everyone else gets the credit when you do your job. You go home at the end of the day in a lot of pain and usually only with the satisfaction of doing a job that nobody really wants or can do, because you rarely make the big bucks.

Guy wants to retire a Saint, the team he started with, instead of bouncing around the league trying to squeeze every last payroll dollar out of the game, speaks volumes in regards to his character and his experience with the organization, IMO.

Put him in the FO or on the coaching staff, whatever, but you want to keep this type of guy around, just sayin'.

rezburna · 01-03-2016, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by skymike

and so who else on the roster has taken his spot?
Who do you want in our lineup to take his place? Im game, if they can do the job better.
He's one of the best athletes in America.
He's a starting right tackle in the NFL, and has been for several years, with no challengers.
In the NFL's #1 productive offense.

Just because our front office was inept when it came to replacing him doesn't mean he should have been starting for all these years. They drafted Peat for obvious reasons. The writing has been on the wall. They put faith in the interior line hoping it could mask the issues at Tackle, and at times it did. They never brought anybody in to challenge Strief. He's not overrated according to his draft position, he's overrated by the Saints fan base. At his best he was average. An above average run blocker, and a sub par pass blocker. Speed rushers destroyed him time and time again. We had this conversation about Strief like 3 years ago and I said it then. People tried to use PFF as a reference. Strief has always been a liability on the right side.

blackangold · 01-02-2016, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I think Strief was overrated for many years.The same way he's been getting beat all year is what I always saw out of him. Brees just stepped up and out of the way of plenty of killshots. When he hit the market nobody went after him.

Wouldn't say he is great by any means, but he is an above average RT.

Not too sure how you can be overrated when drafted in the 7th round.

vpheughan · 01-01-2016, 06:24 PM

Yeah, we should have wasted it on Chris Conley!

spkb25 · 01-01-2016, 08:14 PM

he was really good prior to this season, but this season he has been a disaster, Peat has to take over and we should keep him as abackup

RockyMountainSaint · 01-01-2016, 10:11 PM

Number 64 is eligible!
Great Dude.

halloween 65 · 01-02-2016, 08:01 AM

He's been a blue collar RT. Nothing flashy but able to do his job. Now the wear and tear has started showing I think he could be a decent backup and hopefully mentors Peat to become the next starting RT. We could have did alot worst than Strief, he's been solid enough for a very good O over the years and hope he does retire with the Saints, he's earned it.

Rugby Saint II · 01-02-2016, 05:31 PM

I know it's not popular but he usually grades out well by PFF.

blackangold · 01-02-2016, 07:39 PM

Would like to see him back as a back-up for both OT and OG spots.

He also adds a lot of value as a leader on the team, essentially he is a coach in the locker-room. We saw how valuable that type of player is when we cut Jenkins and Harper. You can't judge a players value by just looking at his contribution on the field. Hell, even Vilma was valuable to us in his last few years, the guy didn't play but you would always see him coaching on the sideline.

Off topic, but I would love to see Vitt get cut loose and us bring Vilma in as the LB coach.

K Major · 01-02-2016, 11:25 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Off topic, but I would love to see Vitt get cut loose and us bring Vilma in as the LB coach.

Not sure if you ever catch Pro Football talk w/Florio, but when Vilma is on air he has been pretty good. I think he will opt for full time TV broadcasting vs the grind of coaching.

01-03-2016, 09:39 AM	#2
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,110	Re: Strief a Saint or taking his ball and going home Originally Posted by skymike and so who else on the roster has taken his spot? Who do you want in our lineup to take his place? Im game, if they can do the job better. He's one of the best athletes in America. He's a starting right tackle in the NFL, and has been for several years, with no challengers. In the NFL's #1 productive offense. Just because our front office was inept when it came to replacing him doesn't mean he should have been starting for all these years. They drafted Peat for obvious reasons. The writing has been on the wall. They put faith in the interior line hoping it could mask the issues at Tackle, and at times it did. They never brought anybody in to challenge Strief. He's not overrated according to his draft position, he's overrated by the Saints fan base. At his best he was average. An above average run blocker, and a sub par pass blocker. Speed rushers destroyed him time and time again. We had this conversation about Strief like 3 years ago and I said it then. People tried to use PFF as a reference. Strief has always been a liability on the right side.
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01-02-2016, 07:40 PM	#3
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Strief a Saint or taking his ball and going home Originally Posted by rezburna I think Strief was overrated for many years.The same way he's been getting beat all year is what I always saw out of him. Brees just stepped up and out of the way of plenty of killshots. When he hit the market nobody went after him. Wouldn't say he is great by any means, but he is an above average RT. Not too sure how you can be overrated when drafted in the 7th round. skymike and SloMotion like this.

01-01-2016, 06:24 PM	#4
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,553	Re: Strief a Saint or taking his ball and going home Yeah, we should have wasted it on Chris Conley!
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01-01-2016, 08:14 PM	#5
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Strief a Saint or taking his ball and going home he was really good prior to this season, but this season he has been a disaster, Peat has to take over and we should keep him as abackup Boutte and ctsaint01 like this.

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01-03-2016, 04:47 AM	#1
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Strief a Saint or taking his ball and going home Originally Posted by skymike ... He's a starting right tackle in the NFL, and has been for several years, with no challengers. In the NFL's #1 productive offense. ^^ This ^^. Somebody obviously held him in high regard, . It's a thankless job, O/L. Everyone notices when you make a mistake, everyone else gets the credit when you do your job. You go home at the end of the day in a lot of pain and usually only with the satisfaction of doing a job that nobody really wants or can do, because you rarely make the big bucks. Guy wants to retire a Saint, the team he started with, instead of bouncing around the league trying to squeeze every last payroll dollar out of the game, speaks volumes in regards to his character and his experience with the organization, IMO. Put him in the FO or on the coaching staff, whatever, but you want to keep this type of guy around, just sayin'. halloween 65 likes this.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Strief a Saint or taking his ball and going home He's been a blue collar RT. Nothing flashy but able to do his job. Now the wear and tear has started showing I think he could be a decent backup and hopefully mentors Peat to become the next starting RT. We could have did alot worst than Strief, he's been solid enough for a very good O over the years and hope he does retire with the Saints, he's earned it. SloMotion and darksoul35 like this.

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01-02-2016, 07:39 PM	#9
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Strief a Saint or taking his ball and going home Would like to see him back as a back-up for both OT and OG spots. He also adds a lot of value as a leader on the team, essentially he is a coach in the locker-room. We saw how valuable that type of player is when we cut Jenkins and Harper. You can't judge a players value by just looking at his contribution on the field. Hell, even Vilma was valuable to us in his last few years, the guy didn't play but you would always see him coaching on the sideline. Off topic, but I would love to see Vitt get cut loose and us bring Vilma in as the LB coach.

01-02-2016, 11:25 PM	#10
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,838 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Strief a Saint or taking his ball and going home Originally Posted by blackangold Off topic, but I would love to see Vitt get cut loose and us bring Vilma in as the LB coach. Not sure if you ever catch Pro Football talk w/Florio, but when Vilma is on air he has been pretty good. I think he will opt for full time TV broadcasting vs the grind of coaching.

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