Scouts take: What Payton Wants

nola_swammi · 01-06-2016, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

I don't have a clue.

Plain and simple for you! We need scouts that know how to evaluate talent

Danno · 01-06-2016, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

Plain and simple for you! We need scouts that know how to evaluate talent

Well it appears we may have finally found them, based on our 2015 draft.

burningmetal · 01-08-2016, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Well it appears we may have finally found them, based on our 2015 draft.

It was a better draft. But that shouldn't have been hard to do... In all seriousness, I did like some of the picks but I still hate the selection of Peat. That was really a whiff, in my opinion. I know it's early, but I'm just not catching any warm, fuzzy feelings about him developing.

Kikaha has a lot left to prove. I love his attitude and burst, but not much else... Yet. I've got more patience with him. He's very one dimensional right now, but he does do a good job of stripping the ball out when he gets the chance.

Anthony was just ok, to me. I'm not sure what we have in him. It would be nice if Ellerbe could stay healthy so we could see how those two feed off each other.

CharityMike · 01-06-2016, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

Plain and simple for you! We need scouts that know how to evaluate talent

Well, if last draft is an indicator of what we can expect, I think we have that now. Speak Engrish next time

nola_swammi · 01-06-2016, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by CharityMike

Well, if last draft is an indicator of what we can expect, I think we have that now. Speak Engrish next time

It was my punctuation. Next time read a little slower and you will notice that I must use spell check. You might want to try it. Engrish?

Euphoria · 01-06-2016, 06:38 PM

This makes sense to me. We need scouts, not just someone with a tittle but someone who knows what he is looking at and can make some good sound judgement based on talent.

We need to hit on more draft picks!!!

dizzle88 · 01-06-2016, 06:49 PM

I think we may be headed in the right direction since we hired Jeff Ireland

Last draft - Damian Swann in round 5 - when healthy a very promising player
PJ Williams - many said should have been a first rounder
Kikaha - "Analysts" said he only succeeded because of his teammate, he proved that wasn't true.
Stephone Anthony - Looks like he could develop into the leader on D eventually.

If we continue drafting like we did last year, we will be successful, don't waste second round picks on someone like Stanley Jean Baptiste when you can get someone like Hau' Oli Kikaha instead.

jeanpierre · 01-09-2016, 03:52 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I think we may be headed in the right direction since we hired Jeff Ireland

Last draft - Damian Swann in round 5 - when healthy a very promising player
PJ Williams - many said should have been a first rounder
Kikaha - "Analysts" said he only succeeded because of his teammate, he proved that wasn't true.
Stephone Anthony - Looks like he could develop into the leader on D eventually.

If we continue drafting like we did last year, we will be successful, don't waste second round picks on someone like Stanley Jean Baptiste when you can get someone like Hau' Oli Kikaha instead.

In a few years when we look back at this draft, be prepared to add Davis Tull among the names you'll remember from this draft...

And don't discount how important Tyeler Davison was this season as his role will definitely grow with what will be a much improved defense next season...

Considering Swann's susceptibility for concussion, don't be surprised he's not a Saint for long; it'll be the smart move for both the young man and organization...

Everyone seems fixated on just the draft, but this may also be the shot across the bow for changes that are desperately needed on the coaching staff (i.e. Joe Vitt, Bill Johnson, Bret Ingalls)...

And Payton realizes this, needs to be able to 'free' himself of getting his hands dirty, but wants to be sure he and Ireland are on the same page at the end of the day...

halloween 65 · 01-06-2016, 08:07 PM

Does this mean the good ole' boys are out !! I hope so.

QBREES9 · 01-06-2016, 10:55 PM

Can we end this right here. nola_swammi and CharityMike

01-06-2016, 07:26 PM	#1
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Scouts take: What Payton Wants Originally Posted by CharityMike I don't have a clue. Plain and simple for you! We need scouts that know how to evaluate talent B_Dub_Saint likes this.

01-06-2016, 07:28 PM	#2
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,751	Re: Scouts take: What Payton Wants Originally Posted by nola_swammi Plain and simple for you! We need scouts that know how to evaluate talent Well it appears we may have finally found them, based on our 2015 draft.

01-08-2016, 08:10 AM	#3
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Scouts take: What Payton Wants Originally Posted by Danno Well it appears we may have finally found them, based on our 2015 draft. It was a better draft. But that shouldn't have been hard to do... In all seriousness, I did like some of the picks but I still hate the selection of Peat. That was really a whiff, in my opinion. I know it's early, but I'm just not catching any warm, fuzzy feelings about him developing. Kikaha has a lot left to prove. I love his attitude and burst, but not much else... Yet. I've got more patience with him. He's very one dimensional right now, but he does do a good job of stripping the ball out when he gets the chance. Anthony was just ok, to me. I'm not sure what we have in him. It would be nice if Ellerbe could stay healthy so we could see how those two feed off each other.
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01-06-2016, 07:28 PM	#4
CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Scouts take: What Payton Wants Originally Posted by nola_swammi Plain and simple for you! We need scouts that know how to evaluate talent Well, if last draft is an indicator of what we can expect, I think we have that now. Speak Engrish next time mleg1972 likes this.

01-06-2016, 10:35 PM	#5
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Scouts take: What Payton Wants Originally Posted by CharityMike Well, if last draft is an indicator of what we can expect, I think we have that now. Speak Engrish next time It was my punctuation. Next time read a little slower and you will notice that I must use spell check. You might want to try it. Engrish?

01-06-2016, 06:38 PM	#6
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Scouts take: What Payton Wants This makes sense to me. We need scouts, not just someone with a tittle but someone who knows what he is looking at and can make some good sound judgement based on talent. We need to hit on more draft picks!!! Rugby Saint II and dizzle88 like this.

01-06-2016, 06:49 PM	#7
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,523	Re: Scouts take: What Payton Wants I think we may be headed in the right direction since we hired Jeff Ireland Last draft - Damian Swann in round 5 - when healthy a very promising player PJ Williams - many said should have been a first rounder Kikaha - "Analysts" said he only succeeded because of his teammate, he proved that wasn't true. Stephone Anthony - Looks like he could develop into the leader on D eventually. If we continue drafting like we did last year, we will be successful, don't waste second round picks on someone like Stanley Jean Baptiste when you can get someone like Hau' Oli Kikaha instead. Crusader, B_Dub_Saint, Mr.Riaton and 1 others like this.
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01-09-2016, 03:52 AM	#8
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Scouts take: What Payton Wants Originally Posted by dizzle88 I think we may be headed in the right direction since we hired Jeff Ireland Last draft - Damian Swann in round 5 - when healthy a very promising player PJ Williams - many said should have been a first rounder Kikaha - "Analysts" said he only succeeded because of his teammate, he proved that wasn't true. Stephone Anthony - Looks like he could develop into the leader on D eventually. If we continue drafting like we did last year, we will be successful, don't waste second round picks on someone like Stanley Jean Baptiste when you can get someone like Hau' Oli Kikaha instead. In a few years when we look back at this draft, be prepared to add Davis Tull among the names you'll remember from this draft... And don't discount how important Tyeler Davison was this season as his role will definitely grow with what will be a much improved defense next season... Considering Swann's susceptibility for concussion, don't be surprised he's not a Saint for long; it'll be the smart move for both the young man and organization... Everyone seems fixated on just the draft, but this may also be the shot across the bow for changes that are desperately needed on the coaching staff (i.e. Joe Vitt, Bill Johnson, Bret Ingalls)... And Payton realizes this, needs to be able to 'free' himself of getting his hands dirty, but wants to be sure he and Ireland are on the same page at the end of the day...
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01-06-2016, 08:07 PM	#9
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Scouts take: What Payton Wants Does this mean the good ole' boys are out !! I hope so.

01-06-2016, 10:55 PM	#10
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,989	Re: Scouts take: What Payton Wants Can we end this right here. nola_swammi and CharityMike nola_swammi, Rugby Saint II and CharityMike like this.

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