Statistically Speaking: Comparing the Saints’ defensive numbers with Rob Ryan and Dennis Allen at coordinator

Tobias-Reiper · 01-21-2016, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Here's the 2011 Bronco defensive stats by game

2011 Denver Broncos Statistics & Players | Pro-Football-Reference.com

We just need a Von Miller type who gets 11.5 sacks for Allen this year

Worth mentioning what Jack Del Rio did the year after.

Crusader · 01-22-2016, 07:17 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

Jordan in double digits for the last 2 years...

Get him some decent DE on the other side and he'll get 15 sacks a year.

When was the last time we had that?

Might not look as much but its quite the difference in giving up 26.8 instead of 31.5. On average we would only have to score 4 times instead of 5 to win.

arsaint · 01-22-2016, 08:31 AM

Imagine our record if nobody could crack 20 points a game???

We'd still be playing this weekend...

NonieT · 01-22-2016, 08:52 AM

Originally Posted by arsaint

Imagine our record if nobody could crack 20 points a game???

We'd still be playing this weekend...

Yes we would. We'd would have been kickin' tail.

Rugby Saint II · 01-25-2016, 02:46 PM

Allen has the trust of the front office. He gets a year to prove he can do the job well. If not .......we'll be right back to looking for a DC next year.

Euphoria · 01-25-2016, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Allen has the trust of the front office. He gets a year to prove he can do the job well. If not .......we'll be right back to looking for a DC next year.

But hopefully we aren't looking for another DC mid-season

The Dude · 01-25-2016, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

You can't really make anything out of it because you also have to weigh in the opponents as well.

And injury. One year isnt even enough to statistically judge a defense, much less half a season.

WillSaints81 · 01-25-2016, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by NonieT

Yes we would. We'd would have been kickin' tail.

2009
Detroit-27
Philadelphia-22
Buffalo-7
jets-10
Giants-20 or 27
Miami-34
Atlanta-27
Carolina-20
St.Louis-23
TB-7
NE-17
Was-27
Atl-23
Dal-24
TB-20
Car-23

halloween 65 · 01-25-2016, 05:11 PM

We might get to a 25th ranking with Allen, but unless we have a hell of alot of turnovers by the D it want come close to seeing the superbowl. We need to be in the low teens and unless Allen has a bunch of luck I can't see it happening. Defense wins championships.

WillSaints81 · 01-25-2016, 05:21 PM

Yeah I don't trust Allen. That's why offense needs to get better fast.

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Tobias-Reiper Merces Letifer Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,161	Re: Statistically Speaking: Comparing the Saints’ defensive numbers with Rob Ryan and Dennis Allen at coordinator Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Here's the 2011 Bronco defensive stats by game 2011 Denver Broncos Statistics & Players \| Pro-Football-Reference.com We just need a Von Miller type who gets 11.5 sacks for Allen this year Worth mentioning what Jack Del Rio did the year after. jnormand, hagan714, Jamessr and 1 others like this.

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Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,017	Re: Statistically Speaking: Comparing the Saints’ defensive numbers with Rob Ryan and Dennis Allen at coordinator Originally Posted by blackangold Jordan in double digits for the last 2 years... Get him some decent DE on the other side and he'll get 15 sacks a year. When was the last time we had that? Might not look as much but its quite the difference in giving up 26.8 instead of 31.5. On average we would only have to score 4 times instead of 5 to win.

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