2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

jeanpierre · 07-08-2016, 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

This is why I like the Darryl Tapp signing. What he lacks as a pass rusher he makes up for in being decent against the run. We have no idea if EdiGwachTull can hold up against the run. Heck, the RB we're going up against in week 1 (Latavius Murray) is the same size as Tull.

But Tull may be faster than the RB Murray!

K Major · 07-07-2016, 07:06 AM

TC & subsequent pre season games will answer a lot of these questions.

jeanpierre · 07-09-2016, 02:31 AM

Fansided: New Orleans Saints: 5 Players Who Should be Cut by Week 1

1). Michael Mauti, Linebacker
2). Tony Carter, Cornerback
3). Vincent Brown, Wide Receiver
4). Brian Dixon, Cornerback
5). Connor Barth, Kicker

Response:

Mauti may be the most vulnerable of the veteran linebackers, but I got a gut feeling Saints' coaching already wants him back
Hirstius is spot on that Carter is in the rear seat behind younger players P.J. Williams and Damian Swann
Story has a problem with the Vincent Brown analysis, and that's that WR Brandon Coleman is no lock to make the team
Dixon angle is spot on that it'll come down to him fighting off one of the young UDRFA like De’Vante Harris (in fact, should Harris flourish, more than just Dixon will be challenged)
And with regards to the K Barth, I'd rather have the near perfect record inside the 45 yd line than Forbath's issues and only slight better percentage long range...

jeanpierre · 07-10-2016, 04:03 PM

PFF: RANKING ALL 32 NFL CORNERBACK GROUPS

The NFL has become a sub-package league. The transition is still on-going, and teams are moving in different directions with their fifth defensive back, but the fact remains that a team’s fifth DB now plays more than their third linebacker. With that comes a shift in focus when we consider the strength of cornerback situations around the NFL. No longer can you simply look at the strength of a starting pair—that third corner is an increasingly important cog in the defense.

Freshly armed with that knowledge, here’s a 1–32 ranking of every NFL CB corps; we’ve considered every team’s top three cornerbacks for our best projection of how each depth chart would likely line up if the season began today...

21. New Orleans Saints
Top CBs: Delvin Breaux, Keenan Lewis, Kyle Wilson

Key stat: Breaux surrendered 10 touchdowns into his coverage last season, a league-high.

You’ll struggle to find a corner with a more “Jekyll and Hyde” stat line than Delvin Breaux produced last season. He allowed less than 50 percent of passes targeted into his coverage to be completed (15 pass defenses), but a quarter of those 40 completions were converted into touchdowns. On the whole, 2015 was a strong season for Breaux, and while the returning Keenan Lewis will provide an enormous upgrade on Brandon Browner, he is yet to produce his form from his final season in Pittsburgh that would see this trio rise in the rankings.

jeanpierre · 07-13-2016, 06:42 AM

Likely no room for Reggie Bush on Saints roster, Sean Payton tells Rich Eisen Show | Saints | theadvocate.com

“I’m sure he’s going to play this year,” Payton said in a Monday appearance on The Rich Eisen Show. “I don’t know if our roster is going to allow that right now.”

New Orleans already has plenty of options at the satellite back role Bush plays in Payton’s offense. C.J. Spiller is back and fully healthy, the Saints still have Travaris Cadet and New Orleans has spent two consecutive seventh-round picks on Marcus Murphy and Daniel Lasco, who both have the skill set to play the role.

Commentary: So Ingram is backed by Hightower and Spiller, Cadet, Murphy and Lasco compete for the ScatBack...

jeanpierre · 07-13-2016, 06:46 AM

How new additions on offense can help Saints within 10-yard line

BY NICK UNDERHILL | THE ADVOCATE
Nick Underhill
JUL 7, 2016 - 11:04 AM

The New Orleans Saints didn't have many issues on offense last year. But there was one play that highlighted one of the underrated, nagging obstacles the unit faced.

It came last fall against the Philadelphia Eagles. Operating from the 3-yard line, quarterback Drew Brees took the snap and faced immediate pressure. As things quickly closed in around him, he fled to the right side of the pocket and was eventually forced to toss the ball up and pray for the best.

The 6-foot-4 Marques Colston was in single coverage on the left side of the field in single coverage. Turning that way wasn't an option. His options to the right were Willie Snead and Brandin Cooks. He chose Snead.

It’s debatable if Brees ever saw his target, who was fighting through double coverage. But he tossed the ball up anyways, and it fell well beyond Snead in the back corner of the end zone. Colston might have had a shot at getting a hand on the ball with a well-timed jump, but not the 5-foot-11 Snead.

To call this a critical issue for the passing offense might be overstating things. Brees attempted 30 passes last season from 10 yards and in last season. Eleven of those resulted in touchdowns. However, he only completed 17 of his overall attempts, which is one of the lower percentages of his career.

The grading scale here might be harsh, but the efficiency could have been better. The Saints admit it, too...

Source: How new additions on offense can help Saints within 10-yard line | Saints | theadvocate.com

jeanpierre · 07-14-2016, 10:03 AM

New Orleans Saints | Training Camp at Greenbrier

K Major · 07-14-2016, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

New Orleans Saints | Training Camp at Greenbrier

When is the first day in full gear? I didn't see it mentioned.

Edit: July 30. Sorry JP ... I need glasses

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jeanpierre · 07-14-2016, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

When is the first day in full gear? I didn't see it mentioned.

Edit: July 30. Sorry JP ... I need glasses .

Trying to get the roster cut down dates to 75 and 53...

jeanpierre · 07-14-2016, 01:12 PM

Wow...

RANKING ALL 32 NFL RUNNING BACK UNITS

Le'Veon Bell and the Pittsburgh Steelers grab the No. 1 spot in PFF's ranking of NFL RB units entering the 2016 season.

MIKE RENNER | 1 DAY AGO

(Photo by Justin K. Aller/Getty Images)(Photo by Justin K. Aller/Getty Images)
On the precipice of the 2016 season, the PFF analysis crew has teamed up to rank the league’s position groups from top to bottom. Up today are the running backs. There were no hard-and-fast guidelines, other than to give credence to the players most likely to receive carries, and to assume full health for all players. Without further ado, let’s see where each team ended up...

21. New Orleans Saints
Starter: Mark Ingram

Backups: C.J. Spiller, Daniel Lasco

Key stat: C.J. Spiller set the PFF record for elusive rating with the Bills in 2012 (94.6).

It’s sad how much injuries have turned C.J. Spiller from one of the most dynamic players in the NFL into an average third-down back. On 34 catches last season, Spiller broke just two tackles. Mark Ingram will likely see the bulk of the carries again, and his steadiness might be a tad underrated; 60 percent of his yards have come after contact the past four years.

07-08-2016, 12:28 AM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by ChrisXVI This is why I like the Darryl Tapp signing. What he lacks as a pass rusher he makes up for in being decent against the run. We have no idea if EdiGwachTull can hold up against the run. Heck, the RB we're going up against in week 1 (Latavius Murray) is the same size as Tull. But Tull may be faster than the RB Murray!

07-07-2016, 07:06 AM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,797 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook TC & subsequent pre season games will answer a lot of these questions.

07-09-2016, 02:31 AM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Fansided: New Orleans Saints: 5 Players Who Should be Cut by Week 1 1). Michael Mauti, Linebacker 2). Tony Carter, Cornerback 3). Vincent Brown, Wide Receiver 4). Brian Dixon, Cornerback 5). Connor Barth, Kicker Response: Mauti may be the most vulnerable of the veteran linebackers, but I got a gut feeling Saints' coaching already wants him back Hirstius is spot on that Carter is in the rear seat behind younger players P.J. Williams and Damian Swann Story has a problem with the Vincent Brown analysis, and that's that WR Brandon Coleman is no lock to make the team Dixon angle is spot on that it'll come down to him fighting off one of the young UDRFA like De’Vante Harris (in fact, should Harris flourish, more than just Dixon will be challenged) And with regards to the K Barth, I'd rather have the near perfect record inside the 45 yd line than Forbath's issues and only slight better percentage long range...
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07-10-2016, 04:03 PM	#4
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook PFF: RANKING ALL 32 NFL CORNERBACK GROUPS The NFL has become a sub-package league. The transition is still on-going, and teams are moving in different directions with their fifth defensive back, but the fact remains that a team’s fifth DB now plays more than their third linebacker. With that comes a shift in focus when we consider the strength of cornerback situations around the NFL. No longer can you simply look at the strength of a starting pair—that third corner is an increasingly important cog in the defense. Freshly armed with that knowledge, here’s a 1–32 ranking of every NFL CB corps; we’ve considered every team’s top three cornerbacks for our best projection of how each depth chart would likely line up if the season began today... 21. New Orleans Saints Top CBs: Delvin Breaux, Keenan Lewis, Kyle Wilson Key stat: Breaux surrendered 10 touchdowns into his coverage last season, a league-high. You’ll struggle to find a corner with a more “Jekyll and Hyde” stat line than Delvin Breaux produced last season. He allowed less than 50 percent of passes targeted into his coverage to be completed (15 pass defenses), but a quarter of those 40 completions were converted into touchdowns. On the whole, 2015 was a strong season for Breaux, and while the returning Keenan Lewis will provide an enormous upgrade on Brandon Browner, he is yet to produce his form from his final season in Pittsburgh that would see this trio rise in the rankings.
	It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...

07-13-2016, 06:42 AM	#5
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Likely no room for Reggie Bush on Saints roster, Sean Payton tells Rich Eisen Show \| Saints \| theadvocate.com “I’m sure he’s going to play this year,” Payton said in a Monday appearance on The Rich Eisen Show. “I don’t know if our roster is going to allow that right now.” New Orleans already has plenty of options at the satellite back role Bush plays in Payton’s offense. C.J. Spiller is back and fully healthy, the Saints still have Travaris Cadet and New Orleans has spent two consecutive seventh-round picks on Marcus Murphy and Daniel Lasco, who both have the skill set to play the role. Commentary: So Ingram is backed by Hightower and Spiller, Cadet, Murphy and Lasco compete for the ScatBack...
	It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...

07-13-2016, 06:46 AM	#6
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook How new additions on offense can help Saints within 10-yard line BY NICK UNDERHILL \| THE ADVOCATE Nick Underhill JUL 7, 2016 - 11:04 AM The New Orleans Saints didn't have many issues on offense last year. But there was one play that highlighted one of the underrated, nagging obstacles the unit faced. It came last fall against the Philadelphia Eagles. Operating from the 3-yard line, quarterback Drew Brees took the snap and faced immediate pressure. As things quickly closed in around him, he fled to the right side of the pocket and was eventually forced to toss the ball up and pray for the best. The 6-foot-4 Marques Colston was in single coverage on the left side of the field in single coverage. Turning that way wasn't an option. His options to the right were Willie Snead and Brandin Cooks. He chose Snead. It’s debatable if Brees ever saw his target, who was fighting through double coverage. But he tossed the ball up anyways, and it fell well beyond Snead in the back corner of the end zone. Colston might have had a shot at getting a hand on the ball with a well-timed jump, but not the 5-foot-11 Snead. To call this a critical issue for the passing offense might be overstating things. Brees attempted 30 passes last season from 10 yards and in last season. Eleven of those resulted in touchdowns. However, he only completed 17 of his overall attempts, which is one of the lower percentages of his career. The grading scale here might be harsh, but the efficiency could have been better. The Saints admit it, too... Source: How new additions on offense can help Saints within 10-yard line \| Saints \| theadvocate.com
	It's not that my way is the right way, I just make the right way my way...

07-14-2016, 10:03 AM	#7
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook New Orleans Saints \| Training Camp at Greenbrier K Major likes this.

07-14-2016, 10:06 AM	#8
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,797 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by jeanpierre New Orleans Saints \| Training Camp at Greenbrier When is the first day in full gear? I didn't see it mentioned. Edit: July 30. Sorry JP ... I need glasses .

07-14-2016, 10:22 AM	#9
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by K Major When is the first day in full gear? I didn't see it mentioned. Edit: July 30. Sorry JP ... I need glasses . Trying to get the roster cut down dates to 75 and 53...

07-14-2016, 01:12 PM	#10
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Wow... RANKING ALL 32 NFL RUNNING BACK UNITS Le'Veon Bell and the Pittsburgh Steelers grab the No. 1 spot in PFF's ranking of NFL RB units entering the 2016 season. MIKE RENNER \| 1 DAY AGO (Photo by Justin K. Aller/Getty Images)(Photo by Justin K. Aller/Getty Images) On the precipice of the 2016 season, the PFF analysis crew has teamed up to rank the league’s position groups from top to bottom. Up today are the running backs. There were no hard-and-fast guidelines, other than to give credence to the players most likely to receive carries, and to assume full health for all players. Without further ado, let’s see where each team ended up... 21. New Orleans Saints Starter: Mark Ingram Backups: C.J. Spiller, Daniel Lasco Key stat: C.J. Spiller set the PFF record for elusive rating with the Bills in 2012 (94.6). It’s sad how much injuries have turned C.J. Spiller from one of the most dynamic players in the NFL into an average third-down back. On 34 catches last season, Spiller broke just two tackles. Mark Ingram will likely see the bulk of the carries again, and his steadiness might be a tad underrated; 60 percent of his yards have come after contact the past four years. hagan714 likes this.
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