Josh Gordon

Euphoria · 02-17-2016, 07:40 PM

hard cases?!?! We don't come here for the funny cat videos

halloween 65 · 02-17-2016, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by triman

Man you guys are some hard cases. Plenty of people have turned there lives around Cris Carter is the poster boy for NFL drug problem turnarounds . Josh Gordon maybe more talented than Carter a hall of famer. This guy led the league playing in Clevland. Everyone knows they haven't had a Qb since Bernie Kosar. Drew would make this guy top three. Sometimes you have to dare greatly to be great. A conditional draft pick and a contract structure that gives the team an out if he is suspended is a no brainer. This kind of talent doesn't come around often.
A wr corps of Snead ,Cooks, Gordon and Coleman , man I want to see that. Loomis make it happen!

I agree. A talent like that doesn't come around very ofton. Fix the O-line, draft a TE and add Gordaon ,it's 2011 fire power. Still our D though???

RaginCajun83 · 02-18-2016, 02:20 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Very true, but we didn't draft Marcus Peters because Payton was concerned about his off-field issues, then he goes and leads the league in interceptions as a rookie.

the KC pass rush helped him do that, he's a great talent but the KC defensive front made a lot of QBs hurry passes and make bad throws which is why I want the Saints to use the 12th pick this year and their 1st rounder next year on defensive lineman that specialize in rushing the passer.

nola_swammi · 02-18-2016, 03:54 AM

We're not that desperate at wr. What kinda message will that send to our young wr? Risk is not worth the reward due to how drew like to spread the ball.

burningmetal · 02-18-2016, 05:07 AM

You know, I'm all about having good character guys but sometimes you really need take a risk or two. I'm not saying we NEED Josh Gordon, but if he became available you aren't ever going to get a better player for a cheaper price. Who does it hurt if it doesn't work? Him. So why not?

But as others have said, it simply won't happen. Not unless Sean has some great revelation in a dream to change his mind. That irritates me a little bit. Because it's not just about Gordon, it's all the players in the past that we've missed on because of Payton's character crusade. I'm sorry, but while a strong locker room is important, let's not pretend that the NFL is the league of (actual) saints. If you're worried that one or two guys are going to infect the whole team, then maybe your whole team lacks the character you think it has.

We watched Brandon Browner act like a fool, and play horribly all year, yet they kept trotting him out there. That's where Payton lost some credibility with me. They badly misjudged him, and didn't want to admit the mistake.

Seer1 · 02-18-2016, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by NOLA54

How would he affect the locker room.

Can't affect the locker room if he's not in it. How does it affect the team if we get this guy with the golden hands and he's soon suspended for using them to keep rolling his spleefs?

Crusader · 02-18-2016, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83

the KC pass rush helped him do that, he's a great talent but the KC defensive front made a lot of QBs hurry passes and make bad throws which is why I want the Saints to use the 12th pick this year and their 1st rounder next year on defensive lineman that specialize in rushing the passer.

Or was it that a good CB kept the QB from having open targets and thus game the pass-rush more time to arrive? That stuff always goes two ways.

FinSaint · 02-18-2016, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

hard cases?!?! We don't come here for the funny cat videos

The dogs all around the world salute your comment!

WillSaints81 · 02-18-2016, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by Crusader

Or was it that a good CB kept the QB from having open targets and thus game the pass-rush more time to arrive? That stuff always goes two ways.

What does that say about our CBs?

WillSaints81 · 02-18-2016, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

And that's too bad.

Let just hope stays in the AFC or doesn't end up in filthy Atlanta torching us twice a year.

That's one of the reasons I want us to have more weapons. Weapons will beat defenses a couple big plays a game and we're asking for our spread the ball around time consuming drive offense to compete with quick strike offenses. Atlanta though isn't the problem if they get Gordon. Carolina and TB on the other hand are.

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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Josh Gordon hard cases?!?! We don't come here for the funny cat videos jnormand and FinSaint like this.

02-17-2016, 07:47 PM	#22
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Josh Gordon Originally Posted by triman Man you guys are some hard cases. Plenty of people have turned there lives around Cris Carter is the poster boy for NFL drug problem turnarounds . Josh Gordon maybe more talented than Carter a hall of famer. This guy led the league playing in Clevland. Everyone knows they haven't had a Qb since Bernie Kosar. Drew would make this guy top three. Sometimes you have to dare greatly to be great. A conditional draft pick and a contract structure that gives the team an out if he is suspended is a no brainer. This kind of talent doesn't come around often. A wr corps of Snead ,Cooks, Gordon and Coleman , man I want to see that. Loomis make it happen! I agree. A talent like that doesn't come around very ofton. Fix the O-line, draft a TE and add Gordaon ,it's 2011 fire power. Still our D though???

02-18-2016, 02:20 AM	#23
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: Josh Gordon Originally Posted by dizzle88 Very true, but we didn't draft Marcus Peters because Payton was concerned about his off-field issues, then he goes and leads the league in interceptions as a rookie. the KC pass rush helped him do that, he's a great talent but the KC defensive front made a lot of QBs hurry passes and make bad throws which is why I want the Saints to use the 12th pick this year and their 1st rounder next year on defensive lineman that specialize in rushing the passer.

02-18-2016, 03:54 AM	#24
nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Josh Gordon We're not that desperate at wr. What kinda message will that send to our young wr? Risk is not worth the reward due to how drew like to spread the ball. jnormand likes this.

02-18-2016, 05:07 AM	#25
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Josh Gordon You know, I'm all about having good character guys but sometimes you really need take a risk or two. I'm not saying we NEED Josh Gordon, but if he became available you aren't ever going to get a better player for a cheaper price. Who does it hurt if it doesn't work? Him. So why not? But as others have said, it simply won't happen. Not unless Sean has some great revelation in a dream to change his mind. That irritates me a little bit. Because it's not just about Gordon, it's all the players in the past that we've missed on because of Payton's character crusade. I'm sorry, but while a strong locker room is important, let's not pretend that the NFL is the league of (actual) saints. If you're worried that one or two guys are going to infect the whole team, then maybe your whole team lacks the character you think it has. We watched Brandon Browner act like a fool, and play horribly all year, yet they kept trotting him out there. That's where Payton lost some credibility with me. They badly misjudged him, and didn't want to admit the mistake. K Major likes this.
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Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Josh Gordon Originally Posted by NOLA54 How would he affect the locker room. Can't affect the locker room if he's not in it. How does it affect the team if we get this guy with the golden hands and he's soon suspended for using them to keep rolling his spleefs?

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Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Re: Josh Gordon Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 the KC pass rush helped him do that, he's a great talent but the KC defensive front made a lot of QBs hurry passes and make bad throws which is why I want the Saints to use the 12th pick this year and their 1st rounder next year on defensive lineman that specialize in rushing the passer. Or was it that a good CB kept the QB from having open targets and thus game the pass-rush more time to arrive? That stuff always goes two ways.

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02-18-2016, 06:19 PM	#29
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Josh Gordon Originally Posted by Crusader Or was it that a good CB kept the QB from having open targets and thus game the pass-rush more time to arrive? That stuff always goes two ways. What does that say about our CBs?

02-18-2016, 06:24 PM	#30
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Josh Gordon Originally Posted by K Major And that's too bad. Let just hope stays in the AFC or doesn't end up in filthy Atlanta torching us twice a year. That's one of the reasons I want us to have more weapons. Weapons will beat defenses a couple big plays a game and we're asking for our spread the ball around time consuming drive offense to compete with quick strike offenses. Atlanta though isn't the problem if they get Gordon. Carolina and TB on the other hand are. halloween 65 likes this.

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