Looks like Spiller will be back

AsylumGuido · 02-19-2016, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

The reason it's a thread is because we were hearing at the end of the regular season that he was likely gone. The fact that those reports are being contradicted is noteworthy.

Consider source of the rumblings at the end of the season. They are paid to produce words. Fact or insight is not a requirement.

burningmetal · 02-19-2016, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Consider source of the rumblings at the end of the season. They are paid to produce words. Fact or insight is not a requirement.

I wasn't defending the source. Simply pointing out the fact that it was reported. Yes, there are false reports out there, but there are also legitimate reports. And until it is proven as nothing more than a rumor, we can only speculate. Now we're being told he's probably staying. Do you have any proof that this information is reliable?

Geez, why do we have voices or fingers to type with, if we're all dumb, and all reporters are liars. I guess there's no point in being a fan. We know nothing, because we ARE nothing... Or am I reading too much into your words?

WillSaints81 · 02-19-2016, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I wasn't defending the source. Simply pointing out the fact that it was reported. Yes, there are false reports out there, but there are also legitimate reports. And until it is proven as nothing more than a rumor, we can only speculate. Now we're being told he's probably staying. Do you have any proof that this information is reliable?

Geez, why do we have voices or fingers to type with, if we're all dumb, and all reporters are liars. I guess there's no point in being a fan. We know nothing, because we ARE nothing... Or am I reading too much into your words?

This is the stuff that just aggravates me. We have to hope for way too much. But I'm saying Spiller is not gonna burn KC, Seattle, Arizona, SF, Denver, Detroit on 10 touches a game. I also have felt Ingram doesn't get enough carries which leads to him always getting hurt. And we don't need to run more than we have. We just need Ingram to get those extra carries that were going to KRob and Spiller. Ingram cannot be a top ten back if he doesn't get 20-25 carries a game.

AsylumGuido · 02-19-2016, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I wasn't defending the source. Simply pointing out the fact that it was reported. Yes, there are false reports out there, but there are also legitimate reports. And until it is proven as nothing more than a rumor, we can only speculate. Now we're being told he's probably staying. Do you have any proof that this information is reliable?

Geez, why do we have voices or fingers to type with, if we're all dumb, and all reporters are liars. I guess there's no point in being a fan. We know nothing, because we ARE nothing... Or am I reading too much into your words?

No. I think you nailed it on the head. As fans we are nothing. No "information" is reliable unless it is stamped as an official NFL transaction.

Yes, we have fingers, and eyes, and voices, and irrational thoughts. I spent ten years working in the sports media arena. In this case I know what I am talking about. There are as more idiots clacking away at computer keys and pontificating on the air percentage wise as there are fans reading their sewage.

burningmetal · 02-19-2016, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

No. I think you nailed it on the head. As fans we are nothing. No "information" is reliable unless it is stamped as an official NFL transaction.

Yes, we have fingers, and eyes, and voices, and irrational thoughts. I spent ten years working in the sports media arena. In this case I know what I am talking about. There are as more idiots clacking away at computer keys and pontificating on the air percentage wise as there are fans reading their sewage.

And you are assuming that all of us are in that same "percentage". That's your problem. You think YOU are the enlightened one. I'm all for a good argument, here and there, but what you do is beyond that. You come in here like a seagull, crapping all over everyone's head, and just trying your best to irritate people with your pretentious claims of superiority. "I spent ten years working in the sports media arena"... So what? I have worked zero years in any media, and I can tell you exactly what you told me. What does that have to do with calling out a GM for over paying players, and pushing back cap problems?

You've given nothing of any substance. You continue to say that we know nothing, but you can't tell me why I'm wrong. Only that (in your opinion) he is respected, and that we don't know the intricacies.

AsylumGuido · 02-19-2016, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

And you are assuming that all of us are in that same "percentage". That's your problem. You think YOU are the enlightened one. I'm all for a good argument, here and there, but what you do is beyond that. You come in here like a seagull, crapping all over everyone's head, and just trying your best to irritate people with your pretentious claims of superiority. "I spent ten years working in the sports media arena"... So what? I have worked zero years in any media, and I can tell you exactly what you told me. What does that have to do with calling out a GM for over paying players, and pushing back cap problems?

You've given nothing of any substance. You continue to say that we know nothing, but you can't tell me why I'm wrong. Only that (in your opinion) he is respected, and that we don't know the intricacies.

Where did I ever state that you were wrong, per say? I have simply stated that you are making your declarations by basing them on absolute fluff. I said that you are basing your opinions on totally unreliable information. I gave my absolute reasoning behind why I know the basis of your opinions are meaningless. By no means is that a reflection upon your personal intellect or education.

Perhaps we can have the opportunity to meet face to face and discuss these topics. I seriously feel I would enjoy that. Alcohol, food and music required.

burningmetal · 02-20-2016, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Where did I ever state that you were wrong, per say? I have simply stated that you are making your declarations by basing them on absolute fluff. I said that you are basing your opinions on totally unreliable information. I gave my absolute reasoning behind why I know the basis of your opinions are meaningless. By no means is that a reflection upon your personal intellect or education.

Perhaps we can have the opportunity to meet face to face and discuss these topics. I seriously feel I would enjoy that. Alcohol, food and music required.

When you tell someone they don't know what they are talking about, in so many words, that's pretty clear that you think I'm wrong. You don't have to spell it out.

You claim to "know" why the basis of my opinions are meaningless. But you still don't get it.... I don't base it off of something some random media guy had to say.

The Saints are always way over the cap going into the off-season, and have to make so many moves just to get under. But they don't do much of anything to improve the team, and often do NOTHING to improve, because they don't have the money. This isn't college where you recruit. Getting players in this league is all about having the money. You don't even have to go after someone like a Von Miller. Just spread it out more evenly with solid players. I must have said this four or five different times over the last day. All Loomis does push back problems. You say he's accounting for the cap increase, which is what I hear every year, but every year is the same. I know what he THINKS he's trying to do. I'm a lot smarter than you realize. But the fact is he's not doing a good job.

You think that I have to be an accountant to understand. But you are refusing to acknowledge my point, over and over. I'm not breaking down the nuts and bolts of the deal, I'm discussing the results. I've used numerous analogies to get this point across. It doesn't matter what is discussed behind doors, I can still see when mistakes are made. The results speak for themselves. He doesn't deserve any credit for any good decisions, if you expect me to believe that none of the bad is on him. Because you're basically telling me that Loomis has no say at all. You are basing your opinion of him being a yes man on "fluff", buddy.

02-19-2016, 12:02 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Looks like Spiller will be back Originally Posted by burningmetal The reason it's a thread is because we were hearing at the end of the regular season that he was likely gone. The fact that those reports are being contradicted is noteworthy. Consider source of the rumblings at the end of the season. They are paid to produce words. Fact or insight is not a requirement.

02-19-2016, 12:51 PM	#2
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Looks like Spiller will be back Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Consider source of the rumblings at the end of the season. They are paid to produce words. Fact or insight is not a requirement. I wasn't defending the source. Simply pointing out the fact that it was reported. Yes, there are false reports out there, but there are also legitimate reports. And until it is proven as nothing more than a rumor, we can only speculate. Now we're being told he's probably staying. Do you have any proof that this information is reliable? Geez, why do we have voices or fingers to type with, if we're all dumb, and all reporters are liars. I guess there's no point in being a fan. We know nothing, because we ARE nothing... Or am I reading too much into your words?
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

02-19-2016, 06:35 PM	#3
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: Looks like Spiller will be back Originally Posted by burningmetal I wasn't defending the source. Simply pointing out the fact that it was reported. Yes, there are false reports out there, but there are also legitimate reports. And until it is proven as nothing more than a rumor, we can only speculate. Now we're being told he's probably staying. Do you have any proof that this information is reliable? Geez, why do we have voices or fingers to type with, if we're all dumb, and all reporters are liars. I guess there's no point in being a fan. We know nothing, because we ARE nothing... Or am I reading too much into your words? This is the stuff that just aggravates me. We have to hope for way too much. But I'm saying Spiller is not gonna burn KC, Seattle, Arizona, SF, Denver, Detroit on 10 touches a game. I also have felt Ingram doesn't get enough carries which leads to him always getting hurt. And we don't need to run more than we have. We just need Ingram to get those extra carries that were going to KRob and Spiller. Ingram cannot be a top ten back if he doesn't get 20-25 carries a game.

02-19-2016, 07:48 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Looks like Spiller will be back Originally Posted by burningmetal I wasn't defending the source. Simply pointing out the fact that it was reported. Yes, there are false reports out there, but there are also legitimate reports. And until it is proven as nothing more than a rumor, we can only speculate. Now we're being told he's probably staying. Do you have any proof that this information is reliable? Geez, why do we have voices or fingers to type with, if we're all dumb, and all reporters are liars. I guess there's no point in being a fan. We know nothing, because we ARE nothing... Or am I reading too much into your words? No. I think you nailed it on the head. As fans we are nothing. No "information" is reliable unless it is stamped as an official NFL transaction. Yes, we have fingers, and eyes, and voices, and irrational thoughts. I spent ten years working in the sports media arena. In this case I know what I am talking about. There are as more idiots clacking away at computer keys and pontificating on the air percentage wise as there are fans reading their sewage.

02-19-2016, 08:24 PM	#5
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Looks like Spiller will be back Originally Posted by AsylumGuido No. I think you nailed it on the head. As fans we are nothing. No "information" is reliable unless it is stamped as an official NFL transaction. Yes, we have fingers, and eyes, and voices, and irrational thoughts. I spent ten years working in the sports media arena. In this case I know what I am talking about. There are as more idiots clacking away at computer keys and pontificating on the air percentage wise as there are fans reading their sewage. And you are assuming that all of us are in that same "percentage". That's your problem. You think YOU are the enlightened one. I'm all for a good argument, here and there, but what you do is beyond that. You come in here like a seagull, crapping all over everyone's head, and just trying your best to irritate people with your pretentious claims of superiority. "I spent ten years working in the sports media arena"... So what? I have worked zero years in any media, and I can tell you exactly what you told me. What does that have to do with calling out a GM for over paying players, and pushing back cap problems? You've given nothing of any substance. You continue to say that we know nothing, but you can't tell me why I'm wrong. Only that (in your opinion) he is respected, and that we don't know the intricacies.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

02-19-2016, 08:38 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Looks like Spiller will be back Originally Posted by burningmetal And you are assuming that all of us are in that same "percentage". That's your problem. You think YOU are the enlightened one. I'm all for a good argument, here and there, but what you do is beyond that. You come in here like a seagull, crapping all over everyone's head, and just trying your best to irritate people with your pretentious claims of superiority. "I spent ten years working in the sports media arena"... So what? I have worked zero years in any media, and I can tell you exactly what you told me. What does that have to do with calling out a GM for over paying players, and pushing back cap problems? You've given nothing of any substance. You continue to say that we know nothing, but you can't tell me why I'm wrong. Only that (in your opinion) he is respected, and that we don't know the intricacies. Where did I ever state that you were wrong, per say? I have simply stated that you are making your declarations by basing them on absolute fluff. I said that you are basing your opinions on totally unreliable information. I gave my absolute reasoning behind why I know the basis of your opinions are meaningless. By no means is that a reflection upon your personal intellect or education. Perhaps we can have the opportunity to meet face to face and discuss these topics. I seriously feel I would enjoy that. Alcohol, food and music required.

02-20-2016, 07:33 AM	#7
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Looks like Spiller will be back Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Where did I ever state that you were wrong, per say? I have simply stated that you are making your declarations by basing them on absolute fluff. I said that you are basing your opinions on totally unreliable information. I gave my absolute reasoning behind why I know the basis of your opinions are meaningless. By no means is that a reflection upon your personal intellect or education. Perhaps we can have the opportunity to meet face to face and discuss these topics. I seriously feel I would enjoy that. Alcohol, food and music required. When you tell someone they don't know what they are talking about, in so many words, that's pretty clear that you think I'm wrong. You don't have to spell it out. You claim to "know" why the basis of my opinions are meaningless. But you still don't get it.... I don't base it off of something some random media guy had to say. The Saints are always way over the cap going into the off-season, and have to make so many moves just to get under. But they don't do much of anything to improve the team, and often do NOTHING to improve, because they don't have the money. This isn't college where you recruit. Getting players in this league is all about having the money. You don't even have to go after someone like a Von Miller. Just spread it out more evenly with solid players. I must have said this four or five different times over the last day. All Loomis does push back problems. You say he's accounting for the cap increase, which is what I hear every year, but every year is the same. I know what he THINKS he's trying to do. I'm a lot smarter than you realize. But the fact is he's not doing a good job. You think that I have to be an accountant to understand. But you are refusing to acknowledge my point, over and over. I'm not breaking down the nuts and bolts of the deal, I'm discussing the results. I've used numerous analogies to get this point across. It doesn't matter what is discussed behind doors, I can still see when mistakes are made. The results speak for themselves. He doesn't deserve any credit for any good decisions, if you expect me to believe that none of the bad is on him. Because you're basically telling me that Loomis has no say at all. You are basing your opinion of him being a yes man on "fluff", buddy.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

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