Saints Sign Coby Fleener 5 year deal

|Mitch| · 03-09-2016, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by jonnyrotten

FLEENER!

Hot damn! If you're so great it's a wonder you don't have Loomis' job. I'm pretty sure that he got his contract as low as he could, and most probably it's a pretty good one making it work with the salary cap. Which I very seriously doubt any of us understand what's really going on with that

jonnyrotten · 03-09-2016, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Hot damn! If you're so great it's a wonder you don't have Loomis' job. I'm pretty sure that he got his contract as low as he could, and most probably it's a pretty good one making it work with the salary cap. Which I very seriously doubt any of us understand what's really going on with that

So sensitive... at what point did I say I was great or better than anyone else? Take emotion out of it, look at the past mistakes that have caused significant cap issues (which we are currently "trying" to get out of) and tell me how this doesn't suggest overpaying for a mid tier player and continuing the current cap situation in future years?

I hear the argument about it being backloaded and could end it sooner, etc. The issue there is (dependent on) the signing bonus number that could lead to substantial dead money counting against a future cap. It is business 101, Mickey Loomis wouldn't have to jump cap hoops every off season with good signings and contracts.

In the end, I hope for nothing more than for Fleener to be the best saints FA signing since Drew Brees and eat crow.

|Mitch| · 03-09-2016, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by jonnyrotten

So sensitive... at what point did I say I was great or better than anyone else?

When you insinuated you could sign Fleener for 3 million or less, and I'm not sensitive I could careless. You just come around to troll every once in awhile

jonnyrotten · 03-09-2016, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

When you insinuated you could sign Fleener for 3 million or less, and I'm not sensitive I could careless. You just come around to troll every once in awhile

Troll, LOL. Since 2004. I post when it is something useful.

|Mitch| · 03-09-2016, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by jonnyrotten

Troll, LOL. Since 2004. I post when it is something useful.

200 post since 2004 = troll... I've been here long enough and you just pop in during the offseason and talk bad about the team just to rile us up... Pretty much a troll to me

jonnyrotten · 03-09-2016, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

200 post since 2004 = troll... I've been here long enough and you just pop in during the offseason and talk bad about the team just to rile us up... Pretty much a troll to me

Why does looking at something objectively mean talking bad about the team? I will never understand that comment. We can agree to disagree, why does everyone always have to agree every move is always perfect?

|Mitch| · 03-09-2016, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by jonnyrotten

Why does looking at something objectively mean talking bad about the team? I will never understand that comment. We can agree to disagree, why does everyone always have to agree every move is always perfect?

I don't care about you disagreeing, but really insinuating like you could have signed him for 3 million or less... c'mon

AsylumGuido · 03-09-2016, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by jonnyrotten

Troll, LOL. Since 2004. I post when it is something useful.

In whose opinion is it useful? Just saying.

|Mitch| · 03-09-2016, 08:22 PM

3/9/2016: Signed a five-year, $36 million contract. The deal includes $18 million guaranteed. 2016: $800,000, 2017: $5.8 million, 2018: $6.3 million, 2019: $6.3 million, 2020: $6.4 million, 2021: Free Agent

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rezburna · 03-09-2016, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

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Bravo Loomis. Good post. Plus the cap will continue to rise.

03-09-2016, 07:55 PM	#1
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Saints Sign Coby Fleener 5 year deal Originally Posted by jonnyrotten FLEENER! Hot damn! If you're so great it's a wonder you don't have Loomis' job. I'm pretty sure that he got his contract as low as he could, and most probably it's a pretty good one making it work with the salary cap. Which I very seriously doubt any of us understand what's really going on with that AsylumGuido, B_Dub_Saint and RaginCajun83 like this.

03-09-2016, 08:17 PM	#2
jonnyrotten 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Nashville Posts: 512	Re: Saints Sign Coby Fleener 5 year deal Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Hot damn! If you're so great it's a wonder you don't have Loomis' job. I'm pretty sure that he got his contract as low as he could, and most probably it's a pretty good one making it work with the salary cap. Which I very seriously doubt any of us understand what's really going on with that So sensitive... at what point did I say I was great or better than anyone else? Take emotion out of it, look at the past mistakes that have caused significant cap issues (which we are currently "trying" to get out of) and tell me how this doesn't suggest overpaying for a mid tier player and continuing the current cap situation in future years? I hear the argument about it being backloaded and could end it sooner, etc. The issue there is (dependent on) the signing bonus number that could lead to substantial dead money counting against a future cap. It is business 101, Mickey Loomis wouldn't have to jump cap hoops every off season with good signings and contracts. In the end, I hope for nothing more than for Fleener to be the best saints FA signing since Drew Brees and eat crow.

03-09-2016, 08:19 PM	#3
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Saints Sign Coby Fleener 5 year deal Originally Posted by jonnyrotten So sensitive... at what point did I say I was great or better than anyone else? When you insinuated you could sign Fleener for 3 million or less, and I'm not sensitive I could careless. You just come around to troll every once in awhile

03-09-2016, 08:21 PM	#4
jonnyrotten 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Nashville Posts: 512	Re: Saints Sign Coby Fleener 5 year deal Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| When you insinuated you could sign Fleener for 3 million or less, and I'm not sensitive I could careless. You just come around to troll every once in awhile Troll, LOL. Since 2004. I post when it is something useful.

03-09-2016, 08:24 PM	#5
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Saints Sign Coby Fleener 5 year deal Originally Posted by jonnyrotten Troll, LOL. Since 2004. I post when it is something useful. 200 post since 2004 = troll... I've been here long enough and you just pop in during the offseason and talk bad about the team just to rile us up... Pretty much a troll to me

03-09-2016, 08:26 PM	#6
jonnyrotten 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Nashville Posts: 512	Re: Saints Sign Coby Fleener 5 year deal Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| 200 post since 2004 = troll... I've been here long enough and you just pop in during the offseason and talk bad about the team just to rile us up... Pretty much a troll to me Why does looking at something objectively mean talking bad about the team? I will never understand that comment. We can agree to disagree, why does everyone always have to agree every move is always perfect? saintshrimp likes this.

03-09-2016, 08:28 PM	#7
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Saints Sign Coby Fleener 5 year deal Originally Posted by jonnyrotten Why does looking at something objectively mean talking bad about the team? I will never understand that comment. We can agree to disagree, why does everyone always have to agree every move is always perfect? I don't care about you disagreeing, but really insinuating like you could have signed him for 3 million or less... c'mon

03-09-2016, 08:34 PM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,784	Re: Saints Sign Coby Fleener 5 year deal Originally Posted by jonnyrotten Troll, LOL. Since 2004. I post when it is something useful. In whose opinion is it useful? Just saying.

03-09-2016, 08:22 PM	#9
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Saints Sign Coby Fleener 5 year deal 3/9/2016: Signed a five-year, $36 million contract. The deal includes $18 million guaranteed. 2016: $800,000, 2017: $5.8 million, 2018: $6.3 million, 2019: $6.3 million, 2020: $6.4 million, 2021: Free Agent ... rezburna likes this.

03-09-2016, 08:24 PM	#10
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,124	Re: Saints Sign Coby Fleener 5 year deal Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| ... Bravo Loomis. Good post. Plus the cap will continue to rise.

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