Bottom of the Barrel: Saints Off Season Moves Grade Poorly

Danno · 04-17-2016, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by TheDeuce

Again, I hope they prove me wrong, but I just don't see a lot of upgrades to our roster from last year.

Seriously? We've upgraded several spots, and the draft isn't here yet. Our LBs are much improved even if we draft any.

AsylumGuido · 04-03-2016, 06:57 PM

Originally Posted by TheDeuce

I'd give it a C-minus at this point in time. That's based mainly on what they failed to do instead of what they actually did. Getting Fleener (overpay), Fairley (1-year stop gap), and Lauranaitis could end up as good moves. But not addressing this team's most serious holes (DE, DT, Safety, OG) is a head scratcher. Loomis has crippled this franchise with a series of terrible FA signings, unwise extensions, and poor results in the draft. Leading the league in dead money is not a good thing. Let's hope we do better in the 2016 draft.

In slamming Loomis you are giving him FAR too much credit. Loomis' main job is to make the money work. You are terribly mistaken if you blame personnel moves on him.

jeanpierre · 04-05-2016, 11:47 PM

Originally Posted by TheDeuce

I'd give it a C-minus at this point in time. That's based mainly on what they failed to do instead of what they actually did. Getting Fleener (overpay), Fairley (1-year stop gap), and Lauranaitis could end up as good moves. But not addressing this team's most serious holes (DE, DT, Safety, OG) is a head scratcher. Loomis has crippled this franchise with a series of terrible FA signings, unwise extensions, and poor results in the draft. Leading the league in dead money is not a good thing. Let's hope we do better in the 2016 draft.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

In slamming Loomis you are giving him FAR too much credit. Loomis' main job is to make the money work. You are terribly mistaken if you blame personnel moves on him.

From New Orleans Saints | Staff

Football Operations
Mickey Loomis Executive Vice President/General Manager

Yeah, can't understand why fans would be confused?!?

hagan714 · 04-03-2016, 04:30 PM

I give it a yawn so far. which is not a bad thing. But it ain't kool aid either

grade comes after the final game of the 2016 season.

WillSaints81 · 04-03-2016, 10:30 PM

Scobee isn't any better as he missed fgs himself. I can't envision Scobee having a turnaround just because he could be on a winning team. That's like throwing darts at a dartboard. When a kicker starts falling, that's it.

|Mitch| · 04-03-2016, 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

Scobee isn't any better as he missed fgs himself. I can't envision Scobee having a turnaround just because he could be on a winning team. That's like throwing darts at a dartboard. When a kicker starts falling, that's it.

I'm still guessing he kicks better than 69% in the Dome,

CheramieIII · 04-04-2016, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

Scobee isn't any better as he missed fgs himself. I can't envision Scobee having a turnaround just because he could be on a winning team. That's like throwing darts at a dartboard. When a kicker starts falling, that's it.

Again, Scobee hit 86.7% on field goals and Forbath hit 69.2. About the only way that isn't a ton better is if you use the new common core math! lol It's amazing after all I posted you picked out the kickers? lol

WillSaints81 · 04-03-2016, 11:06 PM

So what about the road? If we win the division next year we are likely going to Seattle in the divisional round or Green Bay in the NFCCG. What if he can't kick a fg there?

And guess why he got cut by Pittsburgh? Will he do this against the panthers and falcons?

Steelers cut Josh Scobee | ProFootballTalk

He missed two FGs and one in OT against the steelers' biggest division rival in primetime after the team was knocked out of the playoffs by them the last meeting.

Cruize · 04-04-2016, 08:51 AM

The Saints needed veteran talent and leadership at LB. They got it. The Saints needed a TE. They got a potential play maker. The Saints needed more athleticism at DT. They got it. The draft is now set up where they can take the BPA. And this draft is loaded with defensive talent. Unless they wiff in the draft, the Saints are a better team than they were last year.

vpheughan · 04-04-2016, 10:18 AM

For that matter there is a reason San Diego moved on Brees too!

04-17-2016, 06:25 PM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Bottom of the Barrel: Saints Off Season Moves Grade Poorly Originally Posted by TheDeuce Again, I hope they prove me wrong, but I just don't see a lot of upgrades to our roster from last year. Seriously? We've upgraded several spots, and the draft isn't here yet. Our LBs are much improved even if we draft any.

04-03-2016, 06:57 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,766	Re: Bottom of the Barrel: Saints Off Season Moves Grade Poorly Originally Posted by TheDeuce I'd give it a C-minus at this point in time. That's based mainly on what they failed to do instead of what they actually did. Getting Fleener (overpay), Fairley (1-year stop gap), and Lauranaitis could end up as good moves. But not addressing this team's most serious holes (DE, DT, Safety, OG) is a head scratcher. Loomis has crippled this franchise with a series of terrible FA signings, unwise extensions, and poor results in the draft. Leading the league in dead money is not a good thing. Let's hope we do better in the 2016 draft. In slamming Loomis you are giving him FAR too much credit. Loomis' main job is to make the money work. You are terribly mistaken if you blame personnel moves on him.

04-05-2016, 11:47 PM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Bottom of the Barrel: Saints Off Season Moves Grade Poorly Originally Posted by TheDeuce I'd give it a C-minus at this point in time. That's based mainly on what they failed to do instead of what they actually did. Getting Fleener (overpay), Fairley (1-year stop gap), and Lauranaitis could end up as good moves. But not addressing this team's most serious holes (DE, DT, Safety, OG) is a head scratcher. Loomis has crippled this franchise with a series of terrible FA signings, unwise extensions, and poor results in the draft. Leading the league in dead money is not a good thing. Let's hope we do better in the 2016 draft. Originally Posted by AsylumGuido In slamming Loomis you are giving him FAR too much credit. Loomis' main job is to make the money work. You are terribly mistaken if you blame personnel moves on him. From New Orleans Saints \| Staff Football Operations Mickey Loomis Executive Vice President/General Manager Yeah, can't understand why fans would be confused?!?

04-03-2016, 04:30 PM	#4
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Bottom of the Barrel: Saints Off Season Moves Grade Poorly I give it a yawn so far. which is not a bad thing. But it ain't kool aid either grade comes after the final game of the 2016 season.

04-03-2016, 10:30 PM	#5
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,285	Re: Bottom of the Barrel: Saints Off Season Moves Grade Poorly Scobee isn't any better as he missed fgs himself. I can't envision Scobee having a turnaround just because he could be on a winning team. That's like throwing darts at a dartboard. When a kicker starts falling, that's it.

04-03-2016, 10:34 PM	#6
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Bottom of the Barrel: Saints Off Season Moves Grade Poorly Originally Posted by WillSaints81 Scobee isn't any better as he missed fgs himself. I can't envision Scobee having a turnaround just because he could be on a winning team. That's like throwing darts at a dartboard. When a kicker starts falling, that's it. I'm still guessing he kicks better than 69% in the Dome,

04-04-2016, 04:51 PM	#7
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,497 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Bottom of the Barrel: Saints Off Season Moves Grade Poorly Originally Posted by WillSaints81 Scobee isn't any better as he missed fgs himself. I can't envision Scobee having a turnaround just because he could be on a winning team. That's like throwing darts at a dartboard. When a kicker starts falling, that's it. Again, Scobee hit 86.7% on field goals and Forbath hit 69.2. About the only way that isn't a ton better is if you use the new common core math! lol It's amazing after all I posted you picked out the kickers? lol

04-03-2016, 11:06 PM	#8
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,285	Re: Bottom of the Barrel: Saints Off Season Moves Grade Poorly So what about the road? If we win the division next year we are likely going to Seattle in the divisional round or Green Bay in the NFCCG. What if he can't kick a fg there? And guess why he got cut by Pittsburgh? Will he do this against the panthers and falcons? Steelers cut Josh Scobee \| ProFootballTalk He missed two FGs and one in OT against the steelers' biggest division rival in primetime after the team was knocked out of the playoffs by them the last meeting.

04-04-2016, 08:51 AM	#9
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,467	Re: Bottom of the Barrel: Saints Off Season Moves Grade Poorly The Saints needed veteran talent and leadership at LB. They got it. The Saints needed a TE. They got a potential play maker. The Saints needed more athleticism at DT. They got it. The draft is now set up where they can take the BPA. And this draft is loaded with defensive talent. Unless they wiff in the draft, the Saints are a better team than they were last year. saintfan, Danno, CheramieIII and 3 others like this.
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vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,561	Re: Bottom of the Barrel: Saints Off Season Moves Grade Poorly For that matter there is a reason San Diego moved on Brees too! skymike and dizzle88 like this.
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