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RailBoss 04-10-2016 03:39 PM

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This is a tough one for all of us, he was with us for nine years including our SB. Really gut wrenching to hear to say the least.
There was always Will Smith (Prince Of Belair) and then there was our Will Smith (A Saint).

The Dude 04-10-2016 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 698920)
For those misinformed, mistaken gun-control idiotic liberty-abandonment liberals, be informed of the following:

Will Smith's alledged shooter's (Cardell Hayes) father (Anthony Hayes) was fatally shot by NOPD in 2006 while charging Lt. William Ceravolo with a knife; Ceravolo, now in private security had just been celebrating with Will Smith, Pierre Thomas and family; coincidentally, attorneys representing ther Hayes family were able to secure a settlement from the City of New Orleans (wow, imagine the surprise) who had been seeking four million dollars (Cardale was rolling in a Hummer2 that hit the Smith car)...

Source(s): New Orleans reaches settlement over police shooting | NOLA.com


So those of you thinking 'road rage' and 'gun control' can stow it away as this 'may' have been premeditated...

Most shootings in New Orleans are locals on locals anyways as most of the Landreiu-sheltered thugs know that people from the outer-lying parishes (counties) are usually carrying while visiting or conducting business in the city and know not to **** 'with someone from the bayou parishes' so you can abort hijacking this story as another opportunity to assault second amendment rights that our Founding Fathers sought fit in their wisdom to weave into our Constitution...

Yea there is definitely more to this story. I imagine if they were both drafted they knew each other.

jeanpierre 04-10-2016 04:01 PM

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cfr1AlcUsAAuGRX.jpg

jeanpierre 04-10-2016 04:02 PM

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neugey 04-10-2016 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by skymike (Post 698926)
Keep it together, New Orleans.

Guys, its all gonna start now. Just like after the Storm.
All kinds of people saying all kinds of things.
Lets dont do it this time.
Lets dont turn on each other.
Lets dont try to make this into some sort of piece of the bigger picture.
Im sure a certain Other Site is melting down right now.
Lets dont do it.
Lets take this time to mourn a man, a Saint, and his family.
Let everyone else politicize.
And lets see what we can do, just as people, one on one, to preserve
the great beauty of New Orleans, and so many good people.
You can live in Acadiana, Shreveport, MS, TX, or the world, but our heart
is in New Orleans.
You are the Good People of New Orleans.
Lets keep it beautiful.

SkyMike's got a point. This one could get difficult this week as the national media descends on NOLA seeing dollar signs, and as a lot of keyboard warriors fire off thinking they know it all.

Let's be grateful the killer is behind bars and hope the justice system does the right thing based on the facts. Celebrate the life of Will Smith and wish hard that his family gets the comfort and privacy they need.

WillSaints81 04-10-2016 04:08 PM

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Why was my post edited? Was it not proper the way it was before?

Anyway this is so tragic. I was thinking of him this year and his impact on the team.

jeanpierre 04-10-2016 04:23 PM

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Jeff Duncan has written an absolute right-on tribute for Will Smith...

Will Smith was respected leader, on and off the field, during Saints' tenure | NOLA.com

halloween 65 04-10-2016 04:32 PM

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He didn't deserve that. R.I.P.

|Mitch| 04-10-2016 04:37 PM

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The Dude 04-10-2016 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by OldMaid (Post 698924)
Don't know if this ahs been posted. Ahhhh, social media where the story gets to the bottom before the police and media.

Seems to me. Premeditated murder. Revenge killing.

The fact is that we dont know all the facts. Who knows what really went down. im sure it will come out eventually but until then all we know is that Will Smiths life was tragically cut short.

|Mitch| 04-10-2016 04:40 PM

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The Dude 04-10-2016 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 698866)
Something is odd here.

Both guys waited for the police to arrive instead of fleeing the scene.

Thats very unusual.

Exactly Danno. And the fact that he was only booked with 2nd degree murder adds to the mystery. Like I said the facts will come out. I wont get too angry or worked up until the rest of the story comes out. It is sad nontheless

|Mitch| 04-10-2016 04:43 PM

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|Mitch| 04-10-2016 04:47 PM

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Will Smith shooting: See 911 caller describe argument he heard before shots fired | NOLA.com

The Dude 04-10-2016 04:55 PM

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"the city's police chief said the investigation thus far has found no evidence to suggest that the fatal shooting was "anything other than an accident that turned into a dispute, which turned violent."


Oh B.S. Him and Smith were drafted the same year, and Smith was friends with the man who killed the shooters father in self defense. There is more to it than a road rage incident. How stupid do they think we are.

SmashMouth 04-10-2016 05:09 PM

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Will Smith shot in back, right torso by accused killer Cardell Hayes

hagan714 04-10-2016 05:12 PM

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The city once again minimizing murder

|Mitch| 04-10-2016 05:34 PM

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Looks like Self Defense not a possibility

|Mitch| 04-10-2016 05:48 PM

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But he was shot in the back :rolleyes:

Rugby Saint II 04-10-2016 06:10 PM

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Whgen this guy gets life in prison, which he will, he is going to have incarcerated Saints fans banging on him for the rest of his life. I guess if he drives a hummer he thought he could get away with murder.

I have a short fuse and have been involved in several road rage incidents but no one ever brought out a gun. A stick maybe but never a gun.

Damn! Rest in peace and thank you.

|Mitch| 04-10-2016 06:20 PM

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I would have loved to see him as our new D-Line coach, sending Bill Johnson out the door...


|Mitch| 04-10-2016 06:23 PM

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|Mitch| 04-10-2016 06:26 PM

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voodooido 04-10-2016 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 698944)
Exactly Danno. And the fact that he was only booked with 2nd degree murder adds to the mystery. Like I said the facts will come out. I wont get too angry or worked up until the rest of the story comes out. It is sad nontheless

In the state of Louisiana 2nd degree murder is commonly used in place of 1st. 2nd throws out the death penalty. When charged with 1st the scumbag get states lawyers. They get a whole team of them and questioning after being charged is impossible. I see it first hand. I have seen cop killers get charged with 2nd. Same law just with death taken out. Louisiana RS codes 14:30 vs 14:30.1

The Dude 04-10-2016 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 698966)
In the state of Louisiana 2nd degree murder is commonly used in place of 1st. 2nd throws out the death penalty. When charged with 1st the scumbag get states lawyers. They get a whole team of them and questioning after being charged is impossible. I see it first hand. I have seen cop killers get charged with 2nd. Same law just with death taken out. Louisiana RS codes 14:30 vs 14:30.1

Thanks for clarifying. I had no idea.

|Mitch| 04-10-2016 06:42 PM

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NOLA54 04-10-2016 06:51 PM

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Heartbreaking. Thanks for the memories and may you rest in peace. God bless his family.

onebyone 04-10-2016 07:56 PM

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My heart goes out to his family. Such a waste. He's a true Saint.

Hope to learn more about what really happened, but shooting a man in the back? There's never an excuse.

Marlboro Man 04-10-2016 08:03 PM

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Damn, that was one cool dude. What a shame. Prayers

ChrisXVI 04-10-2016 08:14 PM

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I think we should also keep Pierre Thomas in our thoughts and prayers because he was there when it happened and I can't imagine the mental and emotional toll this will take on him.

nola_swammi 04-10-2016 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 698966)
In the state of Louisiana 2nd degree murder is commonly used in place of 1st. 2nd throws out the death penalty. When charged with 1st the scumbag get states lawyers. They get a whole team of them and questioning after being charged is impossible. I see it first hand. I have seen cop killers get charged with 2nd. Same law just with death taken out. Louisiana RS codes 14:30 vs 14:30.1

I don't want my tax money housing this thug to be a boss in the penitentiary. How could he be innocent or justify shooting will in the back and his wife in the legs twice. A nice slow painful death will be to my satisfactory with my tax money

voodooido 04-10-2016 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 698974)
I don't want my tax money housing this thug to be a boss in the penitentiary. How could he be innocent or justify shooting will in the back and his wife in the legs twice. A nice slow painful death will be to my satisfactory with my tax money

I agree completely but this is the way of the world. No longer an eye for an eye(which I agree with). This guy should be gutted on public square but the tree hugging Obama zombies will breast feed him in jail the next 30 years until released.

|Mitch| 04-10-2016 08:41 PM

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Wouldn't it just been easier to walk away before it all went bad? Makes absolutely no sense to me! Why even be carrying a gun in the first place

|Mitch| 04-10-2016 08:57 PM

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SmashMouth 04-10-2016 09:08 PM

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In Will Smith killing, 'My client was not the aggressor,' defense attorney says | NOLA.com

JPPT1974 04-10-2016 09:32 PM

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As really sad as thoughts and prayers are with his family, his kids and wife. As that person that killed Will ruined his family's lives forever. Sadly! :(

|Mitch| 04-10-2016 10:33 PM

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jnormand 04-10-2016 10:53 PM

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This season is for Will.

SmashMouth 04-11-2016 06:23 AM

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What they know right now 4/11/2016

jeanpierre 04-11-2016 07:31 AM

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Wow, just thinking...

IF the City of New Orleans thought settling with him over his father's death, which that whole scenario still baffles me, was costly - just think what it's going to cost taxpayers when they move and try Cardale Hayes in Shreveport or Monroe to find enough non-Saints fans to try him...

And before the Shreveport guys get their drawers in a bunch, have family in that part of the country who tell me there are as many Cowboy fans as Saints fans and as many Cowboy games on television as Saints games; so you're not lesser fans or any bullshinski like that...


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