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At the end of it all, Cardell Hayes PURSUED Smith and then shot Will Smith...and that should get him convicted of Murder Two...
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You said with the history between the two, you think Smith knew it was Hayes when the hit and run happened (the weakest looking hit and run I've ever seen) but I'm just wondering what history there is. |
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["Don't know if this ahs been posted. Ahhhh, social media where the story gets to the bottom before the police and media. Seems to me. Premeditated murder. Revenge killing."] See page 10. Quote:
Well, now here it is from a legit media source and not the net. I am knocking you. You are, were right. I was just posting, had posted a link from a gossip site on the net that called this. |
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The"stand your ground law" likely doesn't apply here. Will was inside of his own car which is an extension of your home in Louisiana. The fact that Hayes approached Smith while he was in his car and then turned around to go get his gun throws out stand your ground. There are other scenarios where it could be ruled as self defense but most judges would throw out the Stand your ground argument in this case. And you can absolutely open carry in Loisiana |
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[See page 9.
Seems like premeditated murder to me. Hayes, like the rest of N.O's criminals, no doubt thinks he will get off and out of this. Really, the justice system etc. is a revolving door. Only thing, being that he killed this guy, THIS GUY, along with the media a spotlight coming, the crooked judges except for Canizarro and a few others, ,and justice and revolving door of prison will have to put him away. Why? Bad N.O. publicity. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ the only thing that gets attention in our city. Tourists will say "Well, why go there if they kill a Saints player. " "Oh we will move our convention dollars to , to, Atlanta , Houston, Dallas, etc." |
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I saw earlier today Pierre Thomas posted an update on his Facebook. I would link/copy here but I'm on my work computer and firewall cuts off social media.
Can't get out of my head that Will Smith was pretty much the only player that both endured the Katrina season and won the Super Bowl. That is pretty special in my book. Man this sucks. And I can't imagine what Will's family is going through. |
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In the United States, a stand-your-ground law (sometimes called "line in the sand" or "no duty to retreat" law) is a law that authorizes an individual to protect and defend their own life and limb against threat or perceived threat. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stand-your-ground_law |
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And Wikipedia is NOT an accurate site. Anyone can add to it. Again another example of people not knowing how to obtain factual information. Guns are serious and in the wrong, uneducated hands can easily take a life. One of the most important part of safety is being educated. We wouldn't need more gun laws if people would take the time to know the laws that already exist. |
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That being said I don't see the self defense excuse will hold water. He went back to his car to get his gun and then reapproached Smith. If a smart person walks up to someone's car and that person says he had a gun the smart person will retreat. Only someone who wants to prove that he is a bad ass would go back to their car to get a gun and reengage the person. |
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Two shots, eight shots, can be understood in a stressful situation...
Again, refer to earlier post... Cardell Hayes followed Will Smith down before running into the back of him and summarily executing him... That is not justifiable, that is Murder two... Have they written the taxpayer check yet for that BS settlement?!? May want to delay that check... |
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Ok so the guy who wins millions says it is self defense and his buddy says the same thing, big surprise there. They knew cameras were all over the area so they played it smart. Old game been done 1000 times before.
now for the other side of the story Family attorney: Smith was protecting wife when shot Before former Saints star Will Smith was shot and killed Saturday night, Smith's wife, Racquel, was shot once in each leg, according to the family's attorney, Peter Thomson. Family attorney: Smith was protecting wife when shot - NFL.com |
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he was shot 7 times in the back, this man is going to jail for a long time
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Yeah exactly what was self defense in shooting a woman twice in the legs
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shooting someone 8 ****ing times is not self defense, hope the LA legal system gets it right and this POS rots for years
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Could have been s classic case of insurance fraud gone wrong. Someone sees a Benz like that behind him and slams on the brakes to get a settlement. Who knows what the intent was. Every scenario and speculation leads to the same point. It could have been avoided. |
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Sir! you haven't corrected me on anything, you more like babbled about nothing so now I must refrain from replying to anymore ignorant statements about "STAND YOUR GROUND" law with YOU |
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The Orleans Parish Legal System is inept, depraved and corrupt; with surging murder statistics, there should be a higher capital murder, murder one, conviction rate and yet the OPLS is among the worst in the nation; and so murderers go unchecked, experienced for their next vileness making building cases for conviction even less likely... |
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Again, it's not stand your ground when Cardell Hayes chased him down (video evidence) and then executed him...
And those laws are necessary; and don't think they don't weigh on the minds of career street thugs... My concern is an Orleans Parish Legal System that often gets it wrong... |
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And just because you have the right to defend yourself with a firearm doesn't mean it's morally right or even the smart thing to do. Your first option should be fleeing, if you can. A firearm is the last resort when you have no other choice. If you take a life, even in self defense it will change your life forever.
Hayes could have easily stayed in his car when he went back for his gun. If he had we wouldn't be having this discussion. |
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Can you imagine the hand wringing if Smith had been killed with an 'assault-style' weapon?
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