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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; I read (couldn't find the audio) the highlights of what Sean Payton said and I don't find it that inflammatory. He's speaking his mind about how he feels about guns. He's hurting right now. He's not simply repeating far-left sound ...

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Old 04-12-2016, 07:08 AM   #1
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Re: Saints coach Payton: 'I hate guns'

I read (couldn't find the audio) the highlights of what Sean Payton said and I don't find it that inflammatory. He's speaking his mind about how he feels about guns. He's hurting right now. He's not simply repeating far-left sound bytes, which I respect. He's not saying they should come get everyone's guns a week from tomorrow. I'm cutting him some slack, at least for the time being.

I think addressing culture and mental health are the main issue, but I also think improved background checks for guns would help. If you're in a big hurry to get a gun and can't wait for a background check - not a good sign.

I support sensible 2A rights but I don't care for the NRA. They cloak themselves in 2A rights and their concern for the common man to defend themselves, but really it's all about the sale and movement of firearms and the easy money generated for them.
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Old 04-12-2016, 07:49 AM   #2
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I think addressing culture and mental health are the main issue, but I also think improved background checks for guns would help. If you're in a big hurry to get a gun and can't wait for a background check - not a good sign.
Great point. But Laws are in place now that keep those mental health records locked away. Same goes for most felony records.

Next time you fill out an application for a job you will soon notice the question of a felony record is no longer there. It happened to me and when I went to the interview I asked them if they can guarantee myself safety at work since they do not check felony records any more and the would not answer the question. I said no thank you and walked out.

This was the brain child of the Obama administration, Hillary Clinton and the democratic party back when they controlled Washington.

It was the indirect effect of the democrats stopping the trail of Guantanamo Bay detainees based of their confessions. Now they can pray in court and be giving creature comforts and more importantly rights they did not have before. This was inside that same crime bill.

Besides Obama has made illegal guns sales a non violent felony offense since the day he opened the cell gates freed felonies he claimed were not dangerous. Grant some should have been freed but a good number of them just rewrote the criminal justice system with there release. Crack is also no more dangerous than powder cocaine.

Yet another bill of goods sold to the American people. Washington, the states and a lack of common sense is to blame. Lawyers writing laws and voting on those same laws to perpetuate their own professions income should be illegal.

People are responsible for their own actions. Politicians especially should be held to this same standard.

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Old 04-12-2016, 08:14 AM   #3
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Great point. But Laws are in place now that keep those mental health records locked away. Same goes for most felony records.

Next time you fill out an application for a job you will soon notice the question of a felony record is no longer there. It happened to me and when I went to the interview I asked them if they can guarantee myself safety at work since they do not check felony records any more and the would not answer the question. I said no thank you and walked out.

This was the brain child of the Obama administration, Hillary Clinton and the democratic party back when they controlled Washington.

It was the indirect effect of the democrats stopping the trail of Guantanamo Bay detainees based of their confessions. Now they can pray in court and be giving creature comforts and more importantly rights they did not have before. This was inside that same crime bill.

Besides Obama has made illegal guns sales a non violent felony offense since the day he opened the cell gates freed felonies he claimed were not dangerous. Grant some should have been freed but a good number of them just rewrote the criminal justice system with there release. Crack is also no more dangerous than powder cocaine.

Yet another bill of goods sold to the American people. Washington, the states and a lack of common sense is to blame. Lawyers writing laws and voting on those same laws to perpetuate their own professions income should be illegal.

People are responsible for their own actions. Politicians especially should be held to this same standard.
They're just trying to find a way to keep convicted felons from being discriminated against when it comes to employment. Many are continously punished for their crimes long after they pay their debt to society. However, murder, rape, and child molestation should always have to be reported to potential employeers.
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Old 04-12-2016, 08:42 AM   #4
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They're just trying to find a way to keep convicted felons from being discriminated against when it comes to employment. Many are continously punished for their crimes long after they pay their debt to society. However, murder, rape, and child molestation should always have to be reported to potential employeers.
common sense is not allowed.
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common sense is not allowed.
No arguing with that.
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Great point. But Laws are in place now that keep those mental health records locked away. Same goes for most felony records.

Next time you fill out an application for a job you will soon notice the question of a felony record is no longer there. It happened to me and when I went to the interview I asked them if they can guarantee myself safety at work since they do not check felony records any more and the would not answer the question. I said no thank you and walked out.

This was the brain child of the Obama administration, Hillary Clinton and the democratic party back when they controlled Washington.

It was the indirect effect of the democrats stopping the trail of Guantanamo Bay detainees based of their confessions. Now they can pray in court and be giving creature comforts and more importantly rights they did not have before. This was inside that same crime bill.
I was not aware of employers being no longer able to ask "Have You Been Convicted of a Felony" ... that is flat out wrong and dangerous. Of all the lawless things Obama has done, this one goes near the top of the list. I am steamed.
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I think addressing culture and mental health are the main issue, but I also think improved background checks for guns would help. If you're in a big hurry to get a gun and can't wait for a background check - not a good sign.
Funny you said that...Carol Bowne... fatally stabbed by ex-boyfriend while waiting for background check - NJ.com

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Funny you said that...

Carol Bowne... fatally stabbed by ex-boyfriend while waiting for background check - NJ.com



"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state,

the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
If the world would just stop BS'ing and give me superpowers I'd put a stop to all that...but nooooo.....they don't want to fund the Rez Burna becomes Batman with Wolverine skeleton and healing factor campaign.
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If the world would just stop BS'ing and give me superpowers I'd put a stop to all that...but nooooo.....they don't want to fund the Rez Burna becomes Batman with Wolverine skeleton and healing factor campaign.
Hey why not we Who Dats live in a fantasy world anyway. We seldom have
a grasp on reality until someone mentions Atlanta.
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