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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by OldMaid Ok, everyone always brings up The U.K. WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!... Yes it is WRONG to bring up the United Kingdom. It is a completely different place to the United States of America. The two places may have words ...

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Old 04-17-2016, 01:34 PM   #1
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Ok, everyone always brings up The U.K.

WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...
Yes it is WRONG to bring up the United Kingdom. It is a completely different place to the United States of America. The two places may have words that sound the same. And the United Kingdom certrtainly have its share of citizens that admires so much that is US of A. However when it comes to guns and ownership, there is a chasm.

What the US of A does is none of nmy business.

Simplistically in the UK: Any person can apply for a permit. The ownership of guns. FIREARMS, is not down to class, or nobility or wealth. It does not mean the application is granted positively. Usually any permits granted are for SHOTGUNS only for landowners, who need not be nobility or rich or of a certain class, for use on their land. The permit is for a Shotgun, not a rifle or an automatic side arm. The permit is for use only on their land. They are not allowed by law to carry it on their person to a public place or in their vehicle. When the gun is not required for use, it must be locked away.

An exception is if one requires a firearm for sport. Membership of the relevant sport is a pre-requisite; e.g. biathlon. Then the firearm is locked at the base for that sport.
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"It seems to have worked for the UK; just sayin'"
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"It seems to have worked for the UK; just sayin'"
Well that is rubbish. We have few armed officers. Those that are generally guard embassies,parliment etc. Saying crime was rare in a 1900 is a joke too. Just nobody cared when the poor were beaten,raped or murdered.

A ban on guns stops alot of deaths purely by people having time to think before they act. A heated argument doesn't escalate to a shooting.

But i dont live over there so its nothing to do with me
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No need to cross the Pond.

Gun Utopia is already in our country and is wildly "successful"...

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No need to cross the Pond.

Gun Utopia is already in our country and is wildly "successful"...

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I hate guns too. I don't like the sound, the kick, and the smell, and the weight, and anything else about them. Everybody in my family hunts but me. Hate 'em. Always have. Fired a few when I was younger. Pistols. Shotguns. Rifles. Hate 'em all.

But I have NO PROBLEM with other people owning them. I guess that's the difference between me and the 'do what we say' crowd.

I do hate 'em tho. And I'll eat anything you can kill with one. LOL
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I hate guns too. I don't like the sound, the kick, and the smell, and the weight, and anything else about them. Everybody in my family hunts but me. Hate 'em. Always have. Fired a few when I was younger. Pistols. Shotguns. Rifles. Hate 'em all.

But I have NO PROBLEM with other people owning them. I guess that's the difference between me and the 'do what we say' crowd.

I do hate 'em tho. And I'll eat anything you can kill with one. LOL
As a gun owner, and avid hunter, I appreciate this thought process. Not everyone has to like, or own a gun. But it doesn't mean those of us that do, shouldn't. And it also CERTAINLY doesn't mean that just because I do, you should!
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"And it's overwhelming," Brees added. "It's overwhelming when you think about this epidemic, or this problem, of young, mainly young men, killing young men for no apparent reason."


People we have a mental health issue. It's as plain as the warts on Hillary Clinton's face. People are just too afraid to address it for fear of offending or 'trampling' on somebody's 'rights'.
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I wish Will Smith, or a good person standing nearby, would have had a gun.
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The right to bear arms main reason for being a part of The Constitution is just in case the people ever had to take up arms against the government. I'm indifferent on the issue. I've never owned a gun, although I've shot em a couple times. I might get one now that I have a daughter. Lol. But it's whatever. My concern is eradicating the conditions that most often lead to violent crime.
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