Saints sign 2-time All American C/G

exile · 05-03-2016, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Oh great. We've got a slow footed tackle and an undersized center. We need to sign or trade for a veteran.

Ha! Way to crash the party Rugby.

I kind of agree though. These two will be working their tails off to make the practice squad.

hagan714 · 05-03-2016, 05:13 PM

well his test will come against the panthers

Papa Voodoo · 05-04-2016, 04:37 PM

We run a zone blocking scheme. Nalen was an all-pro center and he was definitely undersized. Denver ran a similar blocking scheme. The kid may have a chance.

Danno · 05-04-2016, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo

We run a zone blocking scheme. Nalen was an all-pro center and he was definitely undersized. Denver ran a similar blocking scheme. The kid may have a chance.

Good point. Zone run blocking requires athleticism more than power. Allen does kinda fit that mold.

vpheughan · 05-04-2016, 08:20 PM

Sure hope the kids better than some of the other kids! No kidding!

QBREES9 · 05-04-2016, 10:21 PM

If you can play they, will find you.

jeanpierre · 05-05-2016, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Oh great. We've got a slow footed tackle and an undersized center. We need to sign or trade for a veteran.

It's not so much his measurables vs NFL norms, it's his size in the type of zone block scheme the Saints utilize could make his fit, well, problematic...

For Brees' Pocket Protection, Saints use a three man wedge/crenellation (castle battlement) using big long tackles to swing pass rushers out on longer arcs...

Don't see using a smallish center/guard working very well in that system; kinda why we traded Graham for a big All-Pro center in Max Unger...

K Major · 05-05-2016, 10:00 AM

If you review the current Saints roster report JP has out, we have a added in a nice amount of competition for the Guard spot. I think one of the UDFA will emerge at camp (see below).

Top seven undrafted free-agent classes following 2016 NFL Draft - NFL.com

FWIW, NO is ranked #1 for UDFA class in 2016. A diamond in the rough awaits.

hagan714 · 05-05-2016, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Oh great. We've got a slow footed tackle and an undersized center. We need to sign or trade for a veteran.

But there are always those guys that conventional football logic and reason do not match up to on the field. He has a great shot at being one those players.

QBREES9 · 05-05-2016, 09:38 PM

He still has to make the team remember, give the guy a chance.

05-03-2016, 04:12 PM	#11
exile Cake or Death? Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,608	Re: Saints sign 2-time All American C/G Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Oh great. We've got a slow footed tackle and an undersized center. We need to sign or trade for a veteran. Ha! Way to crash the party Rugby. I kind of agree though. These two will be working their tails off to make the practice squad.
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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Saints sign 2-time All American C/G well his test will come against the panthers foreverfan likes this.

05-04-2016, 04:37 PM	#13
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,633	Re: Saints sign 2-time All American C/G We run a zone blocking scheme. Nalen was an all-pro center and he was definitely undersized. Denver ran a similar blocking scheme. The kid may have a chance.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Saints sign 2-time All American C/G Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo We run a zone blocking scheme. Nalen was an all-pro center and he was definitely undersized. Denver ran a similar blocking scheme. The kid may have a chance. Good point. Zone run blocking requires athleticism more than power. Allen does kinda fit that mold.

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vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,518	Re: Saints sign 2-time All American C/G Sure hope the kids better than some of the other kids! No kidding!
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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints sign 2-time All American C/G Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Oh great. We've got a slow footed tackle and an undersized center. We need to sign or trade for a veteran. It's not so much his measurables vs NFL norms, it's his size in the type of zone block scheme the Saints utilize could make his fit, well, problematic... For Brees' Pocket Protection, Saints use a three man wedge/crenellation (castle battlement) using big long tackles to swing pass rushers out on longer arcs... Don't see using a smallish center/guard working very well in that system; kinda why we traded Graham for a big All-Pro center in Max Unger...
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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,618 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints sign 2-time All American C/G If you review the current Saints roster report JP has out, we have a added in a nice amount of competition for the Guard spot. I think one of the UDFA will emerge at camp (see below). Top seven undrafted free-agent classes following 2016 NFL Draft - NFL.com FWIW, NO is ranked #1 for UDFA class in 2016. A diamond in the rough awaits.

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Saints sign 2-time All American C/G Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Oh great. We've got a slow footed tackle and an undersized center. We need to sign or trade for a veteran. But there are always those guys that conventional football logic and reason do not match up to on the field. He has a great shot at being one those players.

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QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Re: Saints sign 2-time All American C/G He still has to make the team remember, give the guy a chance.

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