Re-Grading the New Orleans Saints 2013 Draft Class

lee909 · 05-11-2016, 01:02 AM

How is Stills a F
He was drafted in the 5th round made to look good by Brees and traded for a 3rd round (PJ Williams) and Ellerbe

SmashMouth · 05-11-2016, 07:18 AM

Originally Posted by lee909

How is Stills a F
He was drafted in the 5th round made to look good by Brees and traded for a 3rd round (PJ Williams) and Ellerbe

Well, he's not on our team for one. If he were the chiznit, he'd "stills" be here. Simply because SP and Loomie applied their used car salesman skill set to get something for Stills does not necessarily upgrade the pick.

dizzle88 · 05-11-2016, 07:24 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Well, he's not on our team for one. If he were the chiznit, he'd "stills" be here. Simply because SP and Loomie applied their used car salesman skill set to get something for Stills does not necessarily upgrade the pick.

I disagree, we upgraded a position of need by getting Ellerbe (when healthy), landed PJ Williams who hopefully should be good to go this season and found Willie Snead who I believe is twice the receiver Kenny Stills is.

SmashMouth · 05-11-2016, 07:36 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I disagree, we upgraded a position of need by getting Ellerbe (when healthy), landed PJ Williams who hopefully should be good to go this season and found Willie Snead who I believe is twice the receiver Kenny Stills is.

OK... So Slick Willie was a FA we added to the practice squad in 2014 and whom eventually worked his way onto the club. Ellerbe is good when healthy but is a proud member of the Tub Club. He may be gone this year, next year for sure. PJ is part of another draft. But as long as we're counting him, the jury still is out as he's also shown a propensity to be in the same Tub Club.

voodooido · 05-11-2016, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Well, he's not on our team for one. If he were the chiznit, he'd "stills" be here. Simply because SP and Loomie applied their used car salesman skill set to get something for Stills does not necessarily upgrade the pick.

It's "re-grading the 2013 draft" not re-grading the players still on our team. Stills was traded because of his mouth (from what I have read) not because his lack of skill. He would of been a 1000 yard WR on the Saints last year. In the trade we got a starting LB and up and coming CB. KV is a really good player. Wait till this year when he has pressure up front and a better supporting cast. Armstead is a top 3 LT. Jenkins is a solid player that will improve in a line consisting of Fairly, Rainkins, Edebali, Jordan and Richardson. If you want to give out a F grade reserve it for the 2014 draft.

SmashMouth · 05-11-2016, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by voodooido

It's "re-grading the 2013 draft" not re-grading the players still on our team. Stills was traded because of his mouth (from what I have read) not because his lack of skill. He would of been a 1000 yard WR on the Saints last year. In the trade we got a starting LB and up and coming CB. KV is a really good player. Wait till this year when he has pressure up front and a better supporting cast. Armstead is a top 3 LT. Jenkins is a solid player that will improve in a line consisting of Fairly, Rainkins, Edebali, Jordan and Richardson. If you want to give out a F grade reserve it for the 2014 draft.

Fair point if you don't care if they are no longer on your team. Although one would think the goal is to draft and keep them on our team, not develop a drafted player to mature elsewhere, if he ever does at all. NE has done a killing scooping up discarded players only to mold them into real good role players. Just as we did with Slick Willie, although not part of the 2013 draft.

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05-11-2016, 01:02 AM	#1
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Re-Grading the New Orleans Saints 2013 Draft Class How is Stills a F He was drafted in the 5th round made to look good by Brees and traded for a 3rd round (PJ Williams) and Ellerbe mleg1972 and voodooido like this.

05-11-2016, 07:18 AM	#2
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,794 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Re-Grading the New Orleans Saints 2013 Draft Class Originally Posted by lee909 How is Stills a F He was drafted in the 5th round made to look good by Brees and traded for a 3rd round (PJ Williams) and Ellerbe Well, he's not on our team for one. If he were the chiznit, he'd "stills" be here. Simply because SP and Loomie applied their used car salesman skill set to get something for Stills does not necessarily upgrade the pick.

05-11-2016, 07:24 AM	#3
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,534	Re: Re-Grading the New Orleans Saints 2013 Draft Class Originally Posted by SmashMouth Well, he's not on our team for one. If he were the chiznit, he'd "stills" be here. Simply because SP and Loomie applied their used car salesman skill set to get something for Stills does not necessarily upgrade the pick. I disagree, we upgraded a position of need by getting Ellerbe (when healthy), landed PJ Williams who hopefully should be good to go this season and found Willie Snead who I believe is twice the receiver Kenny Stills is.

05-11-2016, 07:36 AM	#4
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,794 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Re-Grading the New Orleans Saints 2013 Draft Class Originally Posted by dizzle88 I disagree, we upgraded a position of need by getting Ellerbe (when healthy), landed PJ Williams who hopefully should be good to go this season and found Willie Snead who I believe is twice the receiver Kenny Stills is. OK... So Slick Willie was a FA we added to the practice squad in 2014 and whom eventually worked his way onto the club. Ellerbe is good when healthy but is a proud member of the Tub Club. He may be gone this year, next year for sure. PJ is part of another draft. But as long as we're counting him, the jury still is out as he's also shown a propensity to be in the same Tub Club.

05-11-2016, 10:43 AM	#5
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,840	Re: Re-Grading the New Orleans Saints 2013 Draft Class Originally Posted by SmashMouth Well, he's not on our team for one. If he were the chiznit, he'd "stills" be here. Simply because SP and Loomie applied their used car salesman skill set to get something for Stills does not necessarily upgrade the pick. It's "re-grading the 2013 draft" not re-grading the players still on our team. Stills was traded because of his mouth (from what I have read) not because his lack of skill. He would of been a 1000 yard WR on the Saints last year. In the trade we got a starting LB and up and coming CB. KV is a really good player. Wait till this year when he has pressure up front and a better supporting cast. Armstead is a top 3 LT. Jenkins is a solid player that will improve in a line consisting of Fairly, Rainkins, Edebali, Jordan and Richardson. If you want to give out a F grade reserve it for the 2014 draft.
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05-11-2016, 12:41 PM	#6
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,794 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Re-Grading the New Orleans Saints 2013 Draft Class Originally Posted by voodooido It's "re-grading the 2013 draft" not re-grading the players still on our team. Stills was traded because of his mouth (from what I have read) not because his lack of skill. He would of been a 1000 yard WR on the Saints last year. In the trade we got a starting LB and up and coming CB. KV is a really good player. Wait till this year when he has pressure up front and a better supporting cast. Armstead is a top 3 LT. Jenkins is a solid player that will improve in a line consisting of Fairly, Rainkins, Edebali, Jordan and Richardson. If you want to give out a F grade reserve it for the 2014 draft. Fair point if you don't care if they are no longer on your team. Although one would think the goal is to draft and keep them on our team, not develop a drafted player to mature elsewhere, if he ever does at all. NE has done a killing scooping up discarded players only to mold them into real good role players. Just as we did with Slick Willie, although not part of the 2013 draft.

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