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Re-Grading the New Orleans Saints 2013 Draft Class

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; The idea of doing a regrade of the drafts came up in a previous thread so here it is. FA and picking up 5th year options is a good point in time to look back and reflect, So here it ...

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Old 05-09-2016, 07:43 AM   #1
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The idea of doing a regrade of the drafts came up in a previous thread so here it is. FA and picking up 5th year options is a good point in time to look back and reflect, So here it is A POLL in all its glory.

Re-Grading the New Orleans Saints 2013 Draft Class

New Orleans Saints (Mickey Loomis, Sean Payton)

Average Career Approximate Value: 14.3.
First-round pick: S Kenny Vaccaro (No. 15).
Best pick: OT Terron Armstead (third round).
Worst pick: None.
Comment: Really good draft for the Saints, who got two very good players in Vaccaro and Armstead within their first three picks. Third-round pick DT John Jenkins is also serviceable, as was WR Kenny Stills, who is now on the Dolphins.

NFL draft 2013: Grading each team's picks, three years later


Round 1, Pick 15 (15) Kenny Vaccaro SS 6'0" 214 Texas 87.7
Pick Analysis: "You finally have a safety that can play with Malcolm Jenkins as far as an athlete." -- Mike Mayock


Round 3, Pick 13 (75) Terron Armstead OT 6'5" 306 Arkansas-Pine Bluff 84.0
Pick Analysis: "He's as raw as can be but had as freaky a combine as anyone not named Lane Johnson. When you plug him into New Orleans, this kid is a developmental player. You need to redshirt him, and he's a starter next year." -- Mike Mayock


Round 3, Pick 20 (82) (From Bears through Dolphins) John Jenkins DT 6'4" 346 Georgia 81.3
Pick Analysis: The Saints continue to build on defense with the strong, quick Jenkins, who impressed at his pro day (notching a 5.2-second 40-yard dash and a 4.94-second short shuttle).


Round 5, Pick 11 (144) Kenny Stills WR 6'0" 194 Oklahoma 66.0
Pick Analysis: "He's an interesting kid because he can run. I'd like to see him be more physical. I think he has good hands. When you get to New Orleans with a guy like Drew Brees, he'll find a way to get the football to him." -- Mike Mayock

Round 6, Pick 15 (183) Rufus Johnson DE 6'4" 266 Tarleton St. 56.9

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_NFL_draft

It's also important to factor who was left on the board...

Our UDRFA haul included G Tim Lelito, RB Khiry Robinson and TE Josh Hill...
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We were hobbled by the bountycrap draft limitations. Still bad memories for me.
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I'm still not sold on Vaccarro, and wanted Jenkins teammate instead. I give it a B- and only that high because of Armstead.
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I'm still not sold on Vaccarro, and wanted Jenkins teammate instead. I give it a B- and only that high because of Armstead.
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(A-) Round 1, Pick 15 (15) SS Kenny Vaccaro, Texas; Height: 6'0"; Weight: 214 lbs

(A+) Round 3, Pick 13 (75) LT Terron Armstead, Arkansas-Pine Bluff; Height: 6'5"; Weight: 306 lbs

(D-) *Round 3, Pick 20 (82) (From Bears through Dolphins) John Jenkins, Georgia; Height: 6'4"; Weight: 346 lbs

*Miami traded this selection to New Orleans in exchange for two fourth-round selections from New Orleans (106th and 109th); that's two (2) picks...

(A+) Round 5, Pick 11 (144) WR Kenny Stills, Oklahoma; Height: 6'0"; Weight: 194

(F) Round 6, Pick 15 (183) DE Rufus Johnson, Tarleton St.; Height: 6'4; Weight: 266 lbs

(A-) UDRFA To Make The Team: QB Ryan Griffin, LG Tim Lelito, TE Josh Hill

UDRFA To Tryout And Make The Team: RB Khiry Robinson

Overall Draft Grade: (B-)

Overall Rookie Class Grade: (B+)

This should have been an A+ draft and RFA haul even with the second round penalty; but the move up for Jenkins when other NT were available was costly; and though Rufus Johnson was a great, feel-good story, he was a poor fit and many scratched their heads as to why the Saints threw the pick away as they did; they'd done better trading it, rolling it forward; give Jeff Ireland alot of credit for getting Dannell Ellerbe AND a 3rd round pick for Stills from Miami...

Wonder WTF happen this year? Guess Payton decided he didn't like sharing in the draft room...
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I would rate it A even if it was just for Armstead. This was a pretty good draft overall.
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(A-) Round 1, Pick 15 (15) SS Kenny Vaccaro, Texas; Height: 6'0"; Weight: 214 lbs

(A+) Round 3, Pick 13 (75) LT Terron Armstead, Arkansas-Pine Bluff; Height: 6'5"; Weight: 306 lbs

(D-) *Round 3, Pick 20 (82) (From Bears through Dolphins) John Jenkins, Georgia; Height: 6'4"; Weight: 346 lbs

*Miami traded this selection to New Orleans in exchange for two fourth-round selections from New Orleans (106th and 109th)

(A+) Round 5, Pick 11 (144) WR Kenny Stills, Oklahoma; Height: 6'0"; Weight: 194

(F) Round 6, Pick 15 (183) DE Rufus Johnson, Tarleton St.; Height: 6'4; Weight: 266 lbs

(A-) UDRFA To Make The Team: QB Ryan Griffin, LG Tim Lelito, TE Josh Hill

UDRFA To Tryout And Make The Team: RB Khiry Robinson

Overall Draft Grade: (B-)

Overall Rookie Class Grade: (B+)

This should have been an A+ draft and RFA haul even with the second round penalty; but the move up for Jenkins when other NT were available was costly; and though Rufus Johnson was a great, feel-good story, he was a poor fit and many scratched their heads as to why the Saints threw the pick away as they did; they'd done better trading it, rolling it forward...
We could have had Kwan Geathers over Jenkins. I think that Georgia coach come to Payton and sold his snake oil pitch and Payton got bit.
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I give it an A. Because we got a starting LT out of it and I still never understood why we traded Stills. Add to the fact that most Saints' fans were on the Jarvis Jones train. That didn't work out well for Pitt and I think Vaccaro is a much better player.
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Since Vaccaro's rookie season I really haven't seen anything of note from him.

He doesn't land the big hits, doesn't make any interceptions and 2 seasons ago missed more tackles than I've had hot dinners.

I can't blame it all on him because we have lost the battle upfront for years now, hopefully an improved front 7 will let him go back to his rookie year level of play.
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