5 Reasons Why Saints Defense Will Be Better in 2016

hagan714 · 05-10-2016, 06:09 AM

Key addition
Dennis Allen

Key losses
Rob Ryan

This move alone fills me with hope. It gives every player on defense a free pass and breath of fresh air after the many years of stupidity we all suffered through.

SmashMouth · 05-10-2016, 09:04 AM

K Major · 05-10-2016, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Key losses
Rob Ryan

... The Big Lebowski is a key loss?

"Whatcha talkin bout Willis?!"

WhoDatFan26 · 05-10-2016, 04:07 PM

We'll have a better season for 3 reasons:

1.) More talent on the defensive side of the ball. Last year the only proven commodities were Keenan Lewis and Cameron Jordan. Now we have Laurenitis, Anthony, Fairley, Robertson and Breaux that we know can produce. On hustle alone this team defense will be no lower than 20th.

2.) More overall depth. If Keenan goes down(which I do not want to happen) we have PJ Williams, Kyle Wilson and Damian Swann who can step in. We have more defensive linemen who can rotate in to keep players fresh and our talent at Linebacker is Infinitely Better.

3.) We have talented young studs who are rookies and 2nd year players in Rankins, Bell, Kikaha, Tull, Williams and Swann. Plus we have Michael Thomas on offense to complete our missing piece: A big receiver to make the tough catch. Remember the 1st Carolina game we had Carolina beat but Josh Norman outjumped Brandon Cooks for the ball. This year that doesn't happen. This year Michael Thomas highpoints the ball and comes down with it. TD Saints!! Ball Game over!!

hagan714 · 05-10-2016, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

... The Big Lebowski is a key loss?

"Whatcha talkin bout Willis?!"

sometimes your biggest loss can be your greatest gain,

halloween 65 · 05-10-2016, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

Key addition
Dennis Allen

Key losses
Rob Ryan

This move alone fills me with hope. It gives every player on defense a free pass and breath of fresh air after the many years of stupidity we all suffered through.

I don't get all the love for Allen. DB coach when we won the SB then left for a DC job in Denver and didn't do to well there, then was a HC at Oakland and got run out there. He was co-DC with Rob and ended up as DC here last season, now he has a co-DC to share with this season. Very unproven, more hype in my opionion. Guess we'll see. Getting us in the 25 range want get it.

Seer1 · 05-10-2016, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Our defense looks like a mid-tier unit right now. If we catch a few breaks we could finish in the teens.

Key additions
Laurinitis
Fairley
Tull
Williams
Rankins
Bell
Oneyamata
Robertson
Stupar
Harris

Key losses
None

Ascending players
Anthony
Kikaha
Breaux
Swann
Richardson
Davison
Jenkins

Mid tier could easily mean.... say it with me now...
Championship!

Danno · 05-10-2016, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I don't get all the love for Allen. DB coach when we won the SB then left for a DC job in Denver and didn't do to well there, then was a HC at Oakland and got run out there. He was co-DC with Rob and ended up as DC here last season, now he has a co-DC to share with this season. Very unproven, more hype in my opionion. Guess we'll see. Getting us in the 25 range want get it.

He did fine in Denver with what he had. Its what got him the head coach job in Oakland.

He was too young to make those jumps so suddenly, but he made those jumps for a reason. He's HC material and everyone knows it. He was just thrown into it a bit too soon.

He's probably exactly where he needs to be right now. A DC for a few more years then maybe a HC.

I think he will be the guy who takes over for Sean when Sean retires.

NonieT · 05-10-2016, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I don't get all the love for Allen. DB coach when we won the SB then left for a DC job in Denver and didn't do to well there, then was a HC at Oakland and got run out there. He was co-DC with Rob and ended up as DC here last season, now he has a co-DC to share with this season. Very unproven, more hype in my opionion. Guess we'll see. Getting us in the 25 range want get it.

I wouldn't say "didn't do to well there." Because of that defense Denver went to the playoffs and because of that defense they won a playoff game. That was the season they had Tebow at QB. So Dennis Allen isn't as bad as your making him out to be. He might not be Buddy Ryan but he's not Rob Ryan either.

halloween 65 · 05-10-2016, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

He did fine in Denver with what he had. Its what got him the head coach job in Oakland.

He was too young to make those jumps so suddenly, but he made those jumps for a reason. He's HC material and everyone knows it. He was just thrown into it a bit too soon.

He's probably exactly where he needs to be right now. A DC for a few more years then maybe a HC.

I think he will be the guy who takes over for Sean when Sean retires.

Lets just see how he does as the Saints DC before he's the Saints HC. Maybe he proves me wrong, but maybe he proves me right. We'll see!!

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WhoDatFan26 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 365	Re: 5 Reasons Why Saints Defense Will Be Better in 2016 We'll have a better season for 3 reasons: 1.) More talent on the defensive side of the ball. Last year the only proven commodities were Keenan Lewis and Cameron Jordan. Now we have Laurenitis, Anthony, Fairley, Robertson and Breaux that we know can produce. On hustle alone this team defense will be no lower than 20th. 2.) More overall depth. If Keenan goes down(which I do not want to happen) we have PJ Williams, Kyle Wilson and Damian Swann who can step in. We have more defensive linemen who can rotate in to keep players fresh and our talent at Linebacker is Infinitely Better. 3.) We have talented young studs who are rookies and 2nd year players in Rankins, Bell, Kikaha, Tull, Williams and Swann. Plus we have Michael Thomas on offense to complete our missing piece: A big receiver to make the tough catch. Remember the 1st Carolina game we had Carolina beat but Josh Norman outjumped Brandon Cooks for the ball. This year that doesn't happen. This year Michael Thomas highpoints the ball and comes down with it. TD Saints!! Ball Game over!! Danno likes this.
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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: 5 Reasons Why Saints Defense Will Be Better in 2016 Originally Posted by hagan714 Key addition Dennis Allen Key losses Rob Ryan This move alone fills me with hope. It gives every player on defense a free pass and breath of fresh air after the many years of stupidity we all suffered through. I don't get all the love for Allen. DB coach when we won the SB then left for a DC job in Denver and didn't do to well there, then was a HC at Oakland and got run out there. He was co-DC with Rob and ended up as DC here last season, now he has a co-DC to share with this season. Very unproven, more hype in my opionion. Guess we'll see. Getting us in the 25 range want get it.

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Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: 5 Reasons Why Saints Defense Will Be Better in 2016 Originally Posted by Danno Our defense looks like a mid-tier unit right now. If we catch a few breaks we could finish in the teens. Key additions Laurinitis Fairley Tull Williams Rankins Bell Oneyamata Robertson Stupar Harris Key losses None Ascending players Anthony Kikaha Breaux Swann Richardson Davison Jenkins Mid tier could easily mean.... say it with me now... Championship! Danno likes this.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,725	Re: 5 Reasons Why Saints Defense Will Be Better in 2016 Originally Posted by halloween 65 I don't get all the love for Allen. DB coach when we won the SB then left for a DC job in Denver and didn't do to well there, then was a HC at Oakland and got run out there. He was co-DC with Rob and ended up as DC here last season, now he has a co-DC to share with this season. Very unproven, more hype in my opionion. Guess we'll see. Getting us in the 25 range want get it. He did fine in Denver with what he had. Its what got him the head coach job in Oakland. He was too young to make those jumps so suddenly, but he made those jumps for a reason. He's HC material and everyone knows it. He was just thrown into it a bit too soon. He's probably exactly where he needs to be right now. A DC for a few more years then maybe a HC. I think he will be the guy who takes over for Sean when Sean retires.

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NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: 5 Reasons Why Saints Defense Will Be Better in 2016 Originally Posted by halloween 65 I don't get all the love for Allen. DB coach when we won the SB then left for a DC job in Denver and didn't do to well there, then was a HC at Oakland and got run out there. He was co-DC with Rob and ended up as DC here last season, now he has a co-DC to share with this season. Very unproven, more hype in my opionion. Guess we'll see. Getting us in the 25 range want get it. I wouldn't say "didn't do to well there." Because of that defense Denver went to the playoffs and because of that defense they won a playoff game. That was the season they had Tebow at QB. So Dennis Allen isn't as bad as your making him out to be. He might not be Buddy Ryan but he's not Rob Ryan either.
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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: 5 Reasons Why Saints Defense Will Be Better in 2016 Originally Posted by Danno He did fine in Denver with what he had. Its what got him the head coach job in Oakland. He was too young to make those jumps so suddenly, but he made those jumps for a reason. He's HC material and everyone knows it. He was just thrown into it a bit too soon. He's probably exactly where he needs to be right now. A DC for a few more years then maybe a HC. I think he will be the guy who takes over for Sean when Sean retires. Lets just see how he does as the Saints DC before he's the Saints HC. Maybe he proves me wrong, but maybe he proves me right. We'll see!!

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