5 Reasons Why Saints Defense Will Be Better in 2016

Seer1 · 05-10-2016, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I don't get all the love for Allen. DB coach when we won the SB then left for a DC job in Denver and didn't do to well there, then was a HC at Oakland and got run out there. He was co-DC with Rob and ended up as DC here last season, now he has a co-DC to share with this season. Very unproven, more hype in my opionion. Guess we'll see. Getting us in the 25 range want get it.

After Ryan, everybody's gonna love this guy! At least until the season starts.

spkb25 · 05-11-2016, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I don't get all the love for Allen. DB coach when we won the SB then left for a DC job in Denver and didn't do to well there, then was a HC at Oakland and got run out there. He was co-DC with Rob and ended up as DC here last season, now he has a co-DC to share with this season. Very unproven, more hype in my opionion. Guess we'll see. Getting us in the 25 range want get it.

could care less what he did as the hc of a team. there are many guys that are good d coords and not good head coaches. Also, I think he did really well in denver considering the frigan offense they have. they wont a playoff game with teabag, are you kidding me?

SmashMouth · 05-10-2016, 08:04 AM

WhoDatFan26 · 05-10-2016, 03:07 PM

We'll have a better season for 3 reasons:

1.) More talent on the defensive side of the ball. Last year the only proven commodities were Keenan Lewis and Cameron Jordan. Now we have Laurenitis, Anthony, Fairley, Robertson and Breaux that we know can produce. On hustle alone this team defense will be no lower than 20th.

2.) More overall depth. If Keenan goes down(which I do not want to happen) we have PJ Williams, Kyle Wilson and Damian Swann who can step in. We have more defensive linemen who can rotate in to keep players fresh and our talent at Linebacker is Infinitely Better.

3.) We have talented young studs who are rookies and 2nd year players in Rankins, Bell, Kikaha, Tull, Williams and Swann. Plus we have Michael Thomas on offense to complete our missing piece: A big receiver to make the tough catch. Remember the 1st Carolina game we had Carolina beat but Josh Norman outjumped Brandon Cooks for the ball. This year that doesn't happen. This year Michael Thomas highpoints the ball and comes down with it. TD Saints!! Ball Game over!!

QBREES9 · 05-10-2016, 08:46 PM

We've hit rock bottom

Seer1 · 05-11-2016, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by QBREES9

We've hit rock bottom

???

K Major · 05-11-2016, 08:19 AM

Seriously speaking, rotation should be HUGE. Keep those BIG GUYS in the trenches FRESH. This is what I'd like to see...

1st and 2nd downs :
Rankins/St. Nick
Cam Jordan
John Jenkins
David Oyemata/Bobby Richardson

On 3rd down ...
Add Kikaha / Tull & rotate JJenkins out.

Keep your eye on Oyemata at camp. This guy has the potential to be very disruptive.

dizzle88 · 05-11-2016, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Seriously speaking, rotation should be HUGE. Keep those BIG GUYS in the trenches FRESH. This is what I'd like to see...

1st and 2nd downs :
Rankins/St. Nick
Cam Jordan
John Jenkins
David Oyemata/Bobby Richardson

On 3rd down ...
Add Kikaha / Tull & rotate JJenkins out.

Keep your eye on Oyemata at camp. This guy has the potential to be very disruptive.

Love the idea of that! Our D line as a whole could be one of our strengths!

The Dude · 05-11-2016, 02:21 PM

All of this would be great but it will be all for naught if our offense somehow manages to take a step back. Its going to take our offense staying in the top 5 along with a signifigent improvement on defense to be a real threat.

WillSaints81 · 05-11-2016, 03:39 PM

Again, Allen did not really show the improvement after Ryan left enough. That could be in part due to a inefficient offense in the first half.

05-10-2016, 05:40 PM	#1
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: 5 Reasons Why Saints Defense Will Be Better in 2016 Originally Posted by halloween 65 I don't get all the love for Allen. DB coach when we won the SB then left for a DC job in Denver and didn't do to well there, then was a HC at Oakland and got run out there. He was co-DC with Rob and ended up as DC here last season, now he has a co-DC to share with this season. Very unproven, more hype in my opionion. Guess we'll see. Getting us in the 25 range want get it. After Ryan, everybody's gonna love this guy! At least until the season starts. Halo likes this.

05-11-2016, 07:26 PM	#2
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,115	Re: 5 Reasons Why Saints Defense Will Be Better in 2016 Originally Posted by halloween 65 I don't get all the love for Allen. DB coach when we won the SB then left for a DC job in Denver and didn't do to well there, then was a HC at Oakland and got run out there. He was co-DC with Rob and ended up as DC here last season, now he has a co-DC to share with this season. Very unproven, more hype in my opionion. Guess we'll see. Getting us in the 25 range want get it. could care less what he did as the hc of a team. there are many guys that are good d coords and not good head coaches. Also, I think he did really well in denver considering the frigan offense they have. they wont a playoff game with teabag, are you kidding me?

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WhoDatFan26 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 365	Re: 5 Reasons Why Saints Defense Will Be Better in 2016 We'll have a better season for 3 reasons: 1.) More talent on the defensive side of the ball. Last year the only proven commodities were Keenan Lewis and Cameron Jordan. Now we have Laurenitis, Anthony, Fairley, Robertson and Breaux that we know can produce. On hustle alone this team defense will be no lower than 20th. 2.) More overall depth. If Keenan goes down(which I do not want to happen) we have PJ Williams, Kyle Wilson and Damian Swann who can step in. We have more defensive linemen who can rotate in to keep players fresh and our talent at Linebacker is Infinitely Better. 3.) We have talented young studs who are rookies and 2nd year players in Rankins, Bell, Kikaha, Tull, Williams and Swann. Plus we have Michael Thomas on offense to complete our missing piece: A big receiver to make the tough catch. Remember the 1st Carolina game we had Carolina beat but Josh Norman outjumped Brandon Cooks for the ball. This year that doesn't happen. This year Michael Thomas highpoints the ball and comes down with it. TD Saints!! Ball Game over!! Danno likes this.
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QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,989	Re: 5 Reasons Why Saints Defense Will Be Better in 2016 We've hit rock bottom

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Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: 5 Reasons Why Saints Defense Will Be Better in 2016 Originally Posted by QBREES9 We've hit rock bottom ???

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,742 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 5 Reasons Why Saints Defense Will Be Better in 2016 Seriously speaking, rotation should be HUGE. Keep those BIG GUYS in the trenches FRESH. This is what I'd like to see... 1st and 2nd downs : Rankins/St. Nick Cam Jordan John Jenkins David Oyemata/Bobby Richardson On 3rd down ... Add Kikaha / Tull & rotate JJenkins out. Keep your eye on Oyemata at camp. This guy has the potential to be very disruptive. Halo and dizzle88 like this.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: 5 Reasons Why Saints Defense Will Be Better in 2016 Originally Posted by K Major Seriously speaking, rotation should be HUGE. Keep those BIG GUYS in the trenches FRESH. This is what I'd like to see... 1st and 2nd downs : Rankins/St. Nick Cam Jordan John Jenkins David Oyemata/Bobby Richardson On 3rd down ... Add Kikaha / Tull & rotate JJenkins out. Keep your eye on Oyemata at camp. This guy has the potential to be very disruptive. Love the idea of that! Our D line as a whole could be one of our strengths!

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: 5 Reasons Why Saints Defense Will Be Better in 2016 All of this would be great but it will be all for naught if our offense somehow manages to take a step back. Its going to take our offense staying in the top 5 along with a signifigent improvement on defense to be a real threat. Halo likes this.
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WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: 5 Reasons Why Saints Defense Will Be Better in 2016 Again, Allen did not really show the improvement after Ryan left enough. That could be in part due to a inefficient offense in the first half.

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