Saints working out Hakeem Nicks

saintsfan1976 · 05-18-2016, 08:21 PM

BOLDIN.

jeanpierre · 05-18-2016, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

BOLDIN.

This is what you have from last season - Cooks, Snead, Coleman...

Coleman's size is intriguing, but he won't get separation with honest coverage; and then, there's the questionable hands...

Cooks is always going to be a home run threat and will get his by season's end, but his size is a liability on third down and red zone conversions...

Wille Snead is a young complementary possession receiver who we were fortunate to land as a free agent...

That's it, that's all you got as far as wide receivers...

So you got questionable hands, an all or none home run hitter, and a good underneath route runner...

Brees and the Saints offense will not be elite without Marques Colston keeping defenses honest...

blackangold · 05-19-2016, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

This is what you have from last season - Cooks, Snead, Coleman...

Coleman's size is intriguing, but he won't get separation with honest coverage; and then, there's the questionable hands...

Cooks is always going to be a home run threat and will get his by season's end, but his size is a liability on third down and red zone conversions...

Wille Snead is a young complementary possession receiver who we were fortunate to land as a free agent...

That's it, that's all you got as far as wide receivers...

So you got questionable hands, an all or none home run hitter, and a good underneath route runner...

Brees and the Saints offense will not be elite without Marques Colston keeping defenses honest...

The offense will be 'elite' as long as Brees has an o-line that can keep him upright and a running game in the 20s...

saintsfan1976 · 05-19-2016, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

This is what you have from last season - Cooks, Snead, Coleman...

Coleman's size is intriguing, but he won't get separation with honest coverage; and then, there's the questionable hands...

Cooks is always going to be a home run threat and will get his by season's end, but his size is a liability on third down and red zone conversions...

Wille Snead is a young complementary possession receiver who we were fortunate to land as a free agent...

That's it, that's all you got as far as wide receivers...

So you got questionable hands, an all or none home run hitter, and a good underneath route runner...

Brees and the Saints offense will not be elite without Marques Colston keeping defenses honest...

I've asked for WR help what, three years now?

Nearly as long as I've cried for a speedy edge rusher...

Anyway, BOLDIN is exactly what we're missing.

I'm eager to see Thomas in action but IMO he tops out at a #2 WR (at best)

blackangold · 05-19-2016, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

I've asked for WR help what, three years now?

Nearly as long as I've cried for a speedy edge rusher...

Anyway, BOLDIN is exactly what we're missing.

I'm eager to see Thomas in action but IMO he tops out at a #2 WR (at best)

You have asked for WRs for 3 years now, and each year we have had one of the top offenses in the NFL... So essentially that negates the need for your suggestion, as in, we don't need another WR.

jeanpierre · 05-20-2016, 04:10 AM

Originally Posted by blackangold

You have asked for WRs for 3 years now, and each year we have had one of the top offenses in the NFL... So essentially that negates the need for your suggestion, as in, we don't need another WR.

How does that negate it? We've all seen Colston's age getting up on him and said we needed to start finding an "X" receiver to learn from him...

And I've posted this before, No. 1 offense in yards, not in points, and the lack of converting red zone opportunities are why we're not competing in the playoffs...

dizzle88 · 05-20-2016, 05:20 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

How does that negate it? We've all seen Colston's age getting up on him and said we needed to start finding an "X" receiver to learn from him...

And I've posted this before, No. 1 offense in yards, not in points, and the lack of converting red zone opportunities are why we're not competing in the playoffs...

I understand where your coming from but I think it's more "the defense giving up 30-35 points per game" as the reason we don't make the playoffs.

jeanpierre · 05-20-2016, 05:33 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I understand where your coming from but I think it's more "the defense giving up 30-35 points per game" as the reason we don't make the playoffs.

Hey, have no delusions about the defensive failures; I'm just in agreement with '76 that our strength is the offense and what made us contenders was coming away with seven and not three or worse...

It's great that Drew gets all this press about leading the No.1 offense, but we're not converting for touchdowns as when Colston was younger, who later was soldiering through problematic arthritis...

And as a result, we're coming up short on the scoreboard more often...

K Major · 05-20-2016, 07:12 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

And I've posted this before, No. 1 offense in yards, not in points, and the lack of converting red zone opportunities are why we're not competing in the playoffs...

^^ This can't be emphasized enough.

saintsfan1976 · 05-21-2016, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by blackangold

You have asked for WRs for 3 years now, and each year we have had one of the top offenses in the NFL... So essentially that negates the need for your suggestion, as in, we don't need another WR.

You're hiding behind one statistic.

But in your heart you know we are still missing a true #1 wideout.

05-18-2016, 10:54 PM	#2
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints working out Hakeem Nicks Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 BOLDIN. This is what you have from last season - Cooks, Snead, Coleman... Coleman's size is intriguing, but he won't get separation with honest coverage; and then, there's the questionable hands... Cooks is always going to be a home run threat and will get his by season's end, but his size is a liability on third down and red zone conversions... Wille Snead is a young complementary possession receiver who we were fortunate to land as a free agent... That's it, that's all you got as far as wide receivers... So you got questionable hands, an all or none home run hitter, and a good underneath route runner... Brees and the Saints offense will not be elite without Marques Colston keeping defenses honest... saintsfan1976 likes this.
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05-19-2016, 11:46 AM	#3
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Saints working out Hakeem Nicks Originally Posted by jeanpierre This is what you have from last season - Cooks, Snead, Coleman... Coleman's size is intriguing, but he won't get separation with honest coverage; and then, there's the questionable hands... Cooks is always going to be a home run threat and will get his by season's end, but his size is a liability on third down and red zone conversions... Wille Snead is a young complementary possession receiver who we were fortunate to land as a free agent... That's it, that's all you got as far as wide receivers... So you got questionable hands, an all or none home run hitter, and a good underneath route runner... Brees and the Saints offense will not be elite without Marques Colston keeping defenses honest... The offense will be 'elite' as long as Brees has an o-line that can keep him upright and a running game in the 20s...

05-19-2016, 09:13 PM	#4
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,023 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints working out Hakeem Nicks Originally Posted by jeanpierre This is what you have from last season - Cooks, Snead, Coleman... Coleman's size is intriguing, but he won't get separation with honest coverage; and then, there's the questionable hands... Cooks is always going to be a home run threat and will get his by season's end, but his size is a liability on third down and red zone conversions... Wille Snead is a young complementary possession receiver who we were fortunate to land as a free agent... That's it, that's all you got as far as wide receivers... So you got questionable hands, an all or none home run hitter, and a good underneath route runner... Brees and the Saints offense will not be elite without Marques Colston keeping defenses honest... I've asked for WR help what, three years now? Nearly as long as I've cried for a speedy edge rusher... Anyway, BOLDIN is exactly what we're missing. I'm eager to see Thomas in action but IMO he tops out at a #2 WR (at best) foreverfan and jeanpierre like this.

05-19-2016, 10:37 PM	#5
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: Saints working out Hakeem Nicks Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 I've asked for WR help what, three years now? Nearly as long as I've cried for a speedy edge rusher... Anyway, BOLDIN is exactly what we're missing. I'm eager to see Thomas in action but IMO he tops out at a #2 WR (at best) You have asked for WRs for 3 years now, and each year we have had one of the top offenses in the NFL... So essentially that negates the need for your suggestion, as in, we don't need another WR. WW_Who_Dat and Beastmode like this.

05-20-2016, 04:10 AM	#6
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints working out Hakeem Nicks Originally Posted by blackangold You have asked for WRs for 3 years now, and each year we have had one of the top offenses in the NFL... So essentially that negates the need for your suggestion, as in, we don't need another WR. How does that negate it? We've all seen Colston's age getting up on him and said we needed to start finding an "X" receiver to learn from him... And I've posted this before, No. 1 offense in yards, not in points, and the lack of converting red zone opportunities are why we're not competing in the playoffs... saintsfan1976 and K Major like this.

05-18-2016, 08:21 PM	#1
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,023 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints working out Hakeem Nicks BOLDIN. jeanpierre and brees84 like this.

05-20-2016, 05:20 AM	#7
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,534	Re: Saints working out Hakeem Nicks Originally Posted by jeanpierre How does that negate it? We've all seen Colston's age getting up on him and said we needed to start finding an "X" receiver to learn from him... And I've posted this before, No. 1 offense in yards, not in points, and the lack of converting red zone opportunities are why we're not competing in the playoffs... I understand where your coming from but I think it's more "the defense giving up 30-35 points per game" as the reason we don't make the playoffs. blackangold likes this.

05-20-2016, 05:33 AM	#8
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Saints working out Hakeem Nicks Originally Posted by dizzle88 I understand where your coming from but I think it's more "the defense giving up 30-35 points per game" as the reason we don't make the playoffs. Hey, have no delusions about the defensive failures; I'm just in agreement with '76 that our strength is the offense and what made us contenders was coming away with seven and not three or worse... It's great that Drew gets all this press about leading the No.1 offense, but we're not converting for touchdowns as when Colston was younger, who later was soldiering through problematic arthritis... And as a result, we're coming up short on the scoreboard more often... saintsfan1976 likes this.
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05-20-2016, 07:12 AM	#9
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints working out Hakeem Nicks Originally Posted by jeanpierre And I've posted this before, No. 1 offense in yards, not in points, and the lack of converting red zone opportunities are why we're not competing in the playoffs... ^^ This can't be emphasized enough.

05-21-2016, 12:01 PM	#10
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,023 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints working out Hakeem Nicks Originally Posted by blackangold You have asked for WRs for 3 years now, and each year we have had one of the top offenses in the NFL... So essentially that negates the need for your suggestion, as in, we don't need another WR. You're hiding behind one statistic. But in your heart you know we are still missing a true #1 wideout. K Major likes this.

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