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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by jeanpierre This is what you have from last season - Cooks, Snead, Coleman... Coleman's size is intriguing, but he won't get separation with honest coverage; and then, there's the questionable hands... Cooks is always going to be ...

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Old 05-19-2016, 09:13 PM   #1
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This is what you have from last season - Cooks, Snead, Coleman...

Coleman's size is intriguing, but he won't get separation with honest coverage; and then, there's the questionable hands...

Cooks is always going to be a home run threat and will get his by season's end, but his size is a liability on third down and red zone conversions...

Wille Snead is a young complementary possession receiver who we were fortunate to land as a free agent...

That's it, that's all you got as far as wide receivers...

So you got questionable hands, an all or none home run hitter, and a good underneath route runner...

Brees and the Saints offense will not be elite without Marques Colston keeping defenses honest...
I've asked for WR help what, three years now?

Nearly as long as I've cried for a speedy edge rusher...

Anyway, BOLDIN is exactly what we're missing.

I'm eager to see Thomas in action but IMO he tops out at a #2 WR (at best)
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Old 05-19-2016, 10:37 PM   #2
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I've asked for WR help what, three years now?

Nearly as long as I've cried for a speedy edge rusher...

Anyway, BOLDIN is exactly what we're missing.

I'm eager to see Thomas in action but IMO he tops out at a #2 WR (at best)
You have asked for WRs for 3 years now, and each year we have had one of the top offenses in the NFL... So essentially that negates the need for your suggestion, as in, we don't need another WR.
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You have asked for WRs for 3 years now, and each year we have had one of the top offenses in the NFL... So essentially that negates the need for your suggestion, as in, we don't need another WR.
How does that negate it? We've all seen Colston's age getting up on him and said we needed to start finding an "X" receiver to learn from him...

And I've posted this before, No. 1 offense in yards, not in points, and the lack of converting red zone opportunities are why we're not competing in the playoffs...
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How does that negate it? We've all seen Colston's age getting up on him and said we needed to start finding an "X" receiver to learn from him...

And I've posted this before, No. 1 offense in yards, not in points, and the lack of converting red zone opportunities are why we're not competing in the playoffs...
I understand where your coming from but I think it's more "the defense giving up 30-35 points per game" as the reason we don't make the playoffs.
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I understand where your coming from but I think it's more "the defense giving up 30-35 points per game" as the reason we don't make the playoffs.
Hey, have no delusions about the defensive failures; I'm just in agreement with '76 that our strength is the offense and what made us contenders was coming away with seven and not three or worse...

It's great that Drew gets all this press about leading the No.1 offense, but we're not converting for touchdowns as when Colston was younger, who later was soldiering through problematic arthritis...

And as a result, we're coming up short on the scoreboard more often...
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Hey, have no delusions about the defensive failures; I'm just in agreement with '76 that our strength is the offense and what made us contenders was coming away with seven and not three or worse...

It's great that Drew gets all this press about leading the No.1 offense, but we're not converting for touchdowns as when Colston was younger, who later was soldiering through problematic arthritis...

And as a result, we're coming up short on the scoreboard more often...
It's actually our defense that has given us the most success.

2009 best turnover D in the league= 13-3 and the SB
2010 top 5 D in the league= 11-5
2011 top 5 D until Greer got hurt= 13-3
2013 top 5 D= 11-5
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It's actually our defense that has given us the most success.

2009 best turnover D in the league= 13-3 and the SB
2010 top 5 D in the league= 11-5
2011 top 5 D until Greer got hurt= 13-3
2013 top 5 D= 11-5

The defense is not going to hold if Brees keeps having three and outs starting out. I know you want the defense to help Drew but I want to see Brees put together more long drives like he used to. GB did not have a good defense two years ago, but what do they do run up the score to force the opposition into committing turnovers. That's not what we have shown recently.

And I will say it again, if the saints play the packers in the playoffs, Brees will have to put up points!
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And I've posted this before, No. 1 offense in yards, not in points, and the lack of converting red zone opportunities are why we're not competing in the playoffs...
^^ This can't be emphasized enough.
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You have asked for WRs for 3 years now, and each year we have had one of the top offenses in the NFL... So essentially that negates the need for your suggestion, as in, we don't need another WR.
You're hiding behind one statistic.

But in your heart you know we are still missing a true #1 wideout.
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