Saints are suffocating themselves by clinging to Drew Brees

44Champs · 05-25-2016, 01:30 PM

Dumb dumb dumb. Brees is still our best player. He's the reason why we always have a chance to win in every game we play. We dont need a top 5 defense. If we have a top 16 D, we have a legiimate chance to win the whole thing.

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dizzle88 · 05-25-2016, 01:41 PM

He's acting as if players like Drew Brees come along every season, news flash - they don't.

If we get rid of Brees before the time is right it won't be our defense that's the problem.

Rugby Saint II · 05-25-2016, 01:51 PM

And worth every dime.........

lee909 · 05-25-2016, 01:58 PM

Yeah lets not pay a legend of a QB to pay for a top defense and get a Dalton/Texan playig there,cause it worked wonders for them

B_Dub_Saint · 05-25-2016, 02:04 PM

I feel suffocated reading all these BS articles.

ScottF · 05-25-2016, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by exile

Tell that to Dennis Allen when he was pushing for Josh Norman.

Forget that. This is a highly inappropriate comment.

We offered Norman the same deal, and he opted for the dysfunctional Redskins. It wasn't money

Josh Norman: Family swayed him to pass on Saints for Redskins | NOLA.com

SaintFanInATLHELL · 05-25-2016, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

He's right if this D don't get fixed.

The defense went from 31st to 4th in a year from 2012 to 2013. And honestly any team that can win 7 games with the historically worst defense doesn't really need the defense to get too much better to be successful.

30 million is a lot to play any player if the team finished at 7-9 for 2 years straight.

First off it isn't $30 million. Brees' salary this year is $20. Barely top 10 salary for QB's in today's NFL. The $30 million cap hit is because of the signing bonus from the 2012 extension along with the 2014 restructure.

It's foolish to think the Saints have not gotten every penny of the $100 million that was committed to Brees for his 5 year extension in 2012. Looking at the production and salaries of other NFL QBs, it's a flat bargain.

At 38 this would be the last season I would pay. I don't think to many teams if any sign him to a 4 year big money deal after this season.

I posit there are teams that would be willing to pay Brees $75 million all cash for 3 years.

But the problem falls squarely back on the Saints. The next QB will not be Drew Brees. Not even close. Not better than Drew Brees at 40, or 41 either.

So a decision has to be made. Try to reach the mountaintop again in a short window with Brees, or start over.

SFIAH

rezburna · 05-25-2016, 02:34 PM

There's no replacement for Brees in free agency or on our roster. If there's something in free agency we really want Brees would restructure to make sure we could make it happen. When his contract is up, I'm perfectly fine with us resigning him for $20-22 million a year.

halloween 65 · 05-25-2016, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

The defense went from 31st to 4th in a year from 2012 to 2013. And honestly any team that can win 7 games with the historically worst defense doesn't really need the defense to get too much better to be successful.

First off it isn't $30 million. Brees' salary this year is $20. Barely top 10 salary for QB's in today's NFL. The $30 million cap hit is because of the signing bonus from the 2012 extension along with the 2014 restructure.

It's foolish to think the Saints have not gotten every penny of the $100 million that was committed to Brees for his 5 year extension in 2012. Looking at the production and salaries of other NFL QBs, it's a flat bargain.

I posit there are teams that would be willing to pay Brees $75 million all cash for 3 years.

But the problem falls squarely back on the Saints. The next QB will not be Drew Brees. Not even close. Not better than Drew Brees at 40, or 41 either.

So a decision has to be made. Try to reach the mountaintop again in a short window with Brees, or start over.

SFIAH

Pay the man then.

spkb25 · 05-25-2016, 03:51 PM

he hasnt cost us 30m each year

05-25-2016, 01:30 PM	#11
44Champs Site Donor Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,589	Re: Saints are suffocating themselves by clinging to Drew Brees Dumb dumb dumb. Brees is still our best player. He's the reason why we always have a chance to win in every game we play. We dont need a top 5 defense. If we have a top 16 D, we have a legiimate chance to win the whole thing. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk SaintFanInATLHELL and RaginCajun83 like this.
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05-25-2016, 01:41 PM	#12
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,208	Re: Saints are suffocating themselves by clinging to Drew Brees He's acting as if players like Drew Brees come along every season, news flash - they don't. If we get rid of Brees before the time is right it won't be our defense that's the problem.

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05-25-2016, 02:15 PM	#16
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Saints are suffocating themselves by clinging to Drew Brees Originally Posted by exile Tell that to Dennis Allen when he was pushing for Josh Norman. Forget that. This is a highly inappropriate comment. We offered Norman the same deal, and he opted for the dysfunctional Redskins. It wasn't money Josh Norman: Family swayed him to pass on Saints for Redskins \| NOLA.com

05-25-2016, 02:16 PM	#17
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: Saints are suffocating themselves by clinging to Drew Brees Originally Posted by halloween 65 He's right if this D don't get fixed. The defense went from 31st to 4th in a year from 2012 to 2013. And honestly any team that can win 7 games with the historically worst defense doesn't really need the defense to get too much better to be successful. 30 million is a lot to play any player if the team finished at 7-9 for 2 years straight. First off it isn't $30 million. Brees' salary this year is $20. Barely top 10 salary for QB's in today's NFL. The $30 million cap hit is because of the signing bonus from the 2012 extension along with the 2014 restructure. It's foolish to think the Saints have not gotten every penny of the $100 million that was committed to Brees for his 5 year extension in 2012. Looking at the production and salaries of other NFL QBs, it's a flat bargain. At 38 this would be the last season I would pay. I don't think to many teams if any sign him to a 4 year big money deal after this season. I posit there are teams that would be willing to pay Brees $75 million all cash for 3 years. But the problem falls squarely back on the Saints. The next QB will not be Drew Brees. Not even close. Not better than Drew Brees at 40, or 41 either. So a decision has to be made. Try to reach the mountaintop again in a short window with Brees, or start over. SFIAH
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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: Saints are suffocating themselves by clinging to Drew Brees There's no replacement for Brees in free agency or on our roster. If there's something in free agency we really want Brees would restructure to make sure we could make it happen. When his contract is up, I'm perfectly fine with us resigning him for $20-22 million a year.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Saints are suffocating themselves by clinging to Drew Brees Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL The defense went from 31st to 4th in a year from 2012 to 2013. And honestly any team that can win 7 games with the historically worst defense doesn't really need the defense to get too much better to be successful. First off it isn't $30 million. Brees' salary this year is $20. Barely top 10 salary for QB's in today's NFL. The $30 million cap hit is because of the signing bonus from the 2012 extension along with the 2014 restructure. It's foolish to think the Saints have not gotten every penny of the $100 million that was committed to Brees for his 5 year extension in 2012. Looking at the production and salaries of other NFL QBs, it's a flat bargain. I posit there are teams that would be willing to pay Brees $75 million all cash for 3 years. But the problem falls squarely back on the Saints. The next QB will not be Drew Brees. Not even close. Not better than Drew Brees at 40, or 41 either. So a decision has to be made. Try to reach the mountaintop again in a short window with Brees, or start over. SFIAH Pay the man then. GeauxForMore likes this.

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Saints are suffocating themselves by clinging to Drew Brees he hasnt cost us 30m each year SaintFanInATLHELL likes this.

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