Drew Brees applies deadline to talks with Saints on a new deal

05-26-2016, 06:35 PM

Drew has all the leverage. Might as well pay him now even if we can't get much of a cut to help the team. It's only going to get worse.

ScottF · 05-26-2016, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

So we franchise him next year 2017.
That will be less of a cap hit than 30 mill he is getting this year.

Franchise him again the following year 2018.
That will again be less of a cap hit of 30 mill in 2016

Deal with a new contract when he turns 40

Two can play at this game.

I don't think we actually can play that game. In either '17 or '18 the 44% raise clause would kick in for a QB being tagged more than twice... so 25 million in '17 would be 36 million in '18... not that we would sign the first one anyway

saintshrimp · 05-26-2016, 08:21 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

I don't think we actually can play that game. In either '17 or '18 the 44% raise clause would kick in for a QB being tagged more than twice... so 25 million in '17 would be 36 million in '18... not that we would sign the first one anyway

if he was francised next year his cap number would be 44 million no way you can pay a single person on a team sport and feild a decent team .thats moronic if it was to be done. like i said before i love Drew to death and greatful for all he has done for us but i think its getting time to move on to the future as great a he has been you can see he is losing some of his skills.

spkb25 · 05-26-2016, 08:48 PM

drew will get a deal

Danno · 05-26-2016, 09:47 PM

Posturing. In the end he'll sign somewhere between what he wants and what we offer.
If not, I'm ok with moving on if necessary

lee909 · 05-27-2016, 12:02 AM

I do wonder if the front office is seeing what happens next year. Play well/show signs of contendibg get him a new deal. Another 7-9/8-8 and just go into full rebuild mode with plenty of cap to do it.

lee909 · 05-27-2016, 12:06 AM

As it stands
Ryan Nassib
Mike Glennon
Kirk Cousins

Are all FA next year. Not saying any are franchise QBs but if my theory is right about thr front office waiting to see what happens they could be worth a look

Of a EJ Manuel and Geno Smith and we can all pretend its the 85-05 again

QBREES9 · 05-27-2016, 12:45 AM

You ain't going anywhere.

SapperSaint · 05-27-2016, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

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You cant blame him for trying to get the best contract for himself. This is his last go round and he knows it.
I don't blame him for trying to get as much as he can. I said that, to begin with.

Yea we see him making so many millions a year but we dont know what his financial situation he is. For all we know his Jimmy Johns venture is putting him in the hole a couple million a year. I dont care if you make 100 million a year, if your losses in other business ventures are 99,999,999 you arent making squat.
I fail to see how any players money mismanagement is a concern for any front office or the fans. Deuce lost everything. I hate it for the guy but he listened to the wrong people. Like so many other players.

I realize the Bernie Sanders mindset is appealing but you cant blame a guy for trying to make as much money as he can. Agents make you sick because they try to get every dollar they can?? Thats their freaking job.
Bernie Sanders has nothing to do with anything. I realize it's an agents job to get as much as they can. I guess I shouldn't say I don't like lawyers or politicians; my God, I might get executed for giving a random opinion.

I wonder how many of you would tell your boss you dont want a raise "because its best for the company" when your time comes.

Many people do. How many times have you worked when you were off, or missed a birthday, anniversary, or cut a vacation short because you were needed at work? It is generally the same thing.

Look, my point was the point of view from a fan that is tired long, drawn out, beating of a dead horse, bickering back and forth of a contract. That's all. I'm not satisfied with .500 or lower seasons. I'm not bashing Drew, but damn, get a deal done and sign the thing.

Not attacking you Dude. I just want it done, like everyone else does.

hagan714 · 05-27-2016, 08:12 AM

I stand corrected. we can not play that tagging with Drew. I forgot we lost the arbitration claim in 2012, Crap

That’s the closest Brees or his agent have come to pointing out the reality that, if the Saints allow Brees to play out the final year of his five-year, $100 million contract, the circumstances will change, dramatically. They’ll change thanks to the arbitration claim filed by Brees after the Saints applied the franchise tag to him in 2012, which resulted in a ruling that the next application of the tag to Brees will be the third of his career.

Drew Brees applies deadline to talks with Saints on a new deal | ProFootballTalk

Need to read slower i guess

05-26-2016, 06:35 PM	#11
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05-26-2016, 07:54 PM	#12
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Drew Brees applies deadline to talks with Saints on a new deal Originally Posted by hagan714 So we franchise him next year 2017. That will be less of a cap hit than 30 mill he is getting this year. Franchise him again the following year 2018. That will again be less of a cap hit of 30 mill in 2016 Deal with a new contract when he turns 40 Two can play at this game. I don't think we actually can play that game. In either '17 or '18 the 44% raise clause would kick in for a QB being tagged more than twice... so 25 million in '17 would be 36 million in '18... not that we would sign the first one anyway

05-26-2016, 08:21 PM	#13
saintshrimp 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Houma,LA. Posts: 695	Re: Drew Brees applies deadline to talks with Saints on a new deal Originally Posted by ScottF I don't think we actually can play that game. In either '17 or '18 the 44% raise clause would kick in for a QB being tagged more than twice... so 25 million in '17 would be 36 million in '18... not that we would sign the first one anyway if he was francised next year his cap number would be 44 million no way you can pay a single person on a team sport and feild a decent team .thats moronic if it was to be done. like i said before i love Drew to death and greatful for all he has done for us but i think its getting time to move on to the future as great a he has been you can see he is losing some of his skills.

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lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,793 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Drew Brees applies deadline to talks with Saints on a new deal I do wonder if the front office is seeing what happens next year. Play well/show signs of contendibg get him a new deal. Another 7-9/8-8 and just go into full rebuild mode with plenty of cap to do it.

05-27-2016, 12:06 AM	#17
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,793 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Drew Brees applies deadline to talks with Saints on a new deal As it stands Ryan Nassib Mike Glennon Kirk Cousins Are all FA next year. Not saying any are franchise QBs but if my theory is right about thr front office waiting to see what happens they could be worth a look Of a EJ Manuel and Geno Smith and we can all pretend its the 85-05 again

05-27-2016, 12:45 AM	#18
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05-27-2016, 08:09 AM	#19
SapperSaint Pink Nightmare Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,028 Blog Entries: 7	Re: Drew Brees applies deadline to talks with Saints on a new deal Originally Posted by The Dude I You cant blame him for trying to get the best contract for himself. This is his last go round and he knows it. I don't blame him for trying to get as much as he can. I said that, to begin with. Yea we see him making so many millions a year but we dont know what his financial situation he is. For all we know his Jimmy Johns venture is putting him in the hole a couple million a year. I dont care if you make 100 million a year, if your losses in other business ventures are 99,999,999 you arent making squat. I fail to see how any players money mismanagement is a concern for any front office or the fans. Deuce lost everything. I hate it for the guy but he listened to the wrong people. Like so many other players. I realize the Bernie Sanders mindset is appealing but you cant blame a guy for trying to make as much money as he can. Agents make you sick because they try to get every dollar they can?? Thats their freaking job. Bernie Sanders has nothing to do with anything. I realize it's an agents job to get as much as they can. I guess I shouldn't say I don't like lawyers or politicians; my God, I might get executed for giving a random opinion. I wonder how many of you would tell your boss you dont want a raise "because its best for the company" when your time comes. Many people do. How many times have you worked when you were off, or missed a birthday, anniversary, or cut a vacation short because you were needed at work? It is generally the same thing. Look, my point was the point of view from a fan that is tired long, drawn out, beating of a dead horse, bickering back and forth of a contract. That's all. I'm not satisfied with .500 or lower seasons. I'm not bashing Drew, but damn, get a deal done and sign the thing. Not attacking you Dude. I just want it done, like everyone else does. jeanpierre likes this.

05-27-2016, 08:12 AM	#20
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Drew Brees applies deadline to talks with Saints on a new deal I stand corrected. we can not play that tagging with Drew. I forgot we lost the arbitration claim in 2012, Crap That’s the closest Brees or his agent have come to pointing out the reality that, if the Saints allow Brees to play out the final year of his five-year, $100 million contract, the circumstances will change, dramatically. They’ll change thanks to the arbitration claim filed by Brees after the Saints applied the franchise tag to him in 2012, which resulted in a ruling that the next application of the tag to Brees will be the third of his career. Drew Brees applies deadline to talks with Saints on a new deal \| ProFootballTalk Need to read slower i guess SapperSaint likes this.
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