Reasons To Be Optimistic And/Or Pessimistic

Rugby Saint II · 05-29-2016, 02:52 PM

After seeing the team assembled during OTA's name three things that make you feel optimistic about Saints football in 2016.
Now name three things that make you pessimistic about Saints football in 2016.

Optimistic:
Rankins brings the right work ethic and attitude to the team.
Laurinitis looks like he's healed and ready to lead this defense.
PJ Williams(projected 3rd rounder) head shouldn't be swimming after a red shirt year.

Pessimistic:
John Jenkins has hugely disappointed me after his initial upsurge.
Lelito has never lived up to the love Payton gives him.
Barth/Forbath don't have all the qualities or stats I want in a kicker(the great Dane).

Bold indicates the player who is highest on my list.

VegasSaint9 · 05-29-2016, 03:28 PM

Lots of young talent in all the right places. Lots of cheap depth where we needed it.

The thing that concerns me the most is the O-line and the defensive scheme and whether DA can use the the pieces we have the right way.

Cruize · 05-29-2016, 10:02 PM

The offense looks to be great again. The uncertainty on the line will work itself out. Armstead, Peat, Unger and Strief are all solid. That leaves one guard out of the rest to be serviceable at worst. That will happen.

The defense has to be better. The veteran LB's will help. The DT rotation is better with some possible, much-needed pressure type guys coming in. The secondary could be lockdown with PJ and Bell finding a role.

Barth will win the kicking job and those worries are gone.

The schedule on paper seems easier.

voodooido · 05-29-2016, 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

After seeing the team assembled during OTA's name three things that make you feel optimistic about Saints football in 2016.
Now name three things that make you pessimistic about Saints football in 2016.

Optimistic:
Rankins brings the right work ethic and attitude to the team.
Laurinitis looks like he's healed and ready to lead this defense.
PJ Williams(projected 3rd rounder) head shouldn't be swimming after a red shirt year.

Pessimistic:
John Jenkins has hugely disappointed me after his initial upsurge.
Lelito has never lived up to the love Payton gives him.
Barth/Forbath don't have all the qualities or stats I want in a kicker(the great Dane).

Bold indicates the player who is highest on my list.

So a 3rd pick that is a nice rotational player is a disappointment and a undrafted guard never lived up to what you expected? And our kicker is not on par with the best of all time? Nonsense! They must all be cut and never be heard from again! Look, our hands are tied by a qb that wants to be the highest paid and horrible FA signings. The players we have is what we can afford.

Danno · 05-30-2016, 01:33 AM

Optimism: We have a much better and deeper roster, better coaches.

Pessimism: several of our most talented players are misfits in a base 4-3. Will we be flexible in our 3-4 packages, or will it result in predictability?

spkb25 · 05-30-2016, 07:27 AM

Optimistic: RR FIRED, Year 2 of some rookies that looked good. DLine could be better and quicker

Pessimism:Oline could be shaky. Lot of unproven players. That old guy that coaches LB's is still here

CheramieIII · 05-30-2016, 08:10 AM

I am very happy with the pieces we've picked up. The O Line has plenty enough talent to go around now. The D Line and linebackers have been tremendously improved and without injury the secondary will be better than average.

Adding Fleenor and Thomas to the offense gives us 2 more powerful weapons that can only improve our offense.

hagan714 · 05-30-2016, 08:24 AM

Optimism comes from DA replacing Rob despite what Rob has to say about the matter.

Pessimistic is not in the vocabulary yet

when the season starts everyone has a 0-0 record. so let the show begin

till we are out of the playoff race there is always hope

once out of the race it is pride time on the field

when the season ends look for any positives you can

make the playoffs and/or win the division means i will probably be serving crow sandwiches at my place with a smile on my face..

Thirty3 · 05-30-2016, 09:36 AM

pretty optomistic
O line probably good enough
D coaching a concern - we'll see. If they can become more aggressive up front - sky's the limit

ChrisXVI · 05-30-2016, 09:53 AM

I really just have one for each...

Optimism: Delvin Breaux and a healthy Keenan Lewis could be one of the best CB tandems in the league.

Pessimism: Other than left tackle and center our O-Line still doesn't look great. Lelito or Kelemete at LG and Peat at RG? Strief still starting at RT??

05-29-2016, 02:52 PM	#1
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Reasons To Be Optimistic And/Or Pessimistic After seeing the team assembled during OTA's name three things that make you feel optimistic about Saints football in 2016. Now name three things that make you pessimistic about Saints football in 2016. Optimistic: Rankins brings the right work ethic and attitude to the team. Laurinitis looks like he's healed and ready to lead this defense. PJ Williams(projected 3rd rounder) head shouldn't be swimming after a red shirt year. Pessimistic: John Jenkins has hugely disappointed me after his initial upsurge. Lelito has never lived up to the love Payton gives him. Barth/Forbath don't have all the qualities or stats I want in a kicker(the great Dane). Bold indicates the player who is highest on my list. SmashMouth likes this.
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05-29-2016, 03:28 PM	#2
VegasSaint9 100th Post Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada Posts: 360	Re: Reasons To Be Optimistic And/Or Pessimistic Lots of young talent in all the right places. Lots of cheap depth where we needed it. The thing that concerns me the most is the O-line and the defensive scheme and whether DA can use the the pieces we have the right way. halloween 65 likes this.

05-29-2016, 10:02 PM	#3
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,457	Re: Reasons To Be Optimistic And/Or Pessimistic The offense looks to be great again. The uncertainty on the line will work itself out. Armstead, Peat, Unger and Strief are all solid. That leaves one guard out of the rest to be serviceable at worst. That will happen. The defense has to be better. The veteran LB's will help. The DT rotation is better with some possible, much-needed pressure type guys coming in. The secondary could be lockdown with PJ and Bell finding a role. Barth will win the kicking job and those worries are gone. The schedule on paper seems easier. SaintFanInATLHELL likes this.
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05-29-2016, 11:14 PM	#4
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,766	Re: Reasons To Be Optimistic And/Or Pessimistic Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II After seeing the team assembled during OTA's name three things that make you feel optimistic about Saints football in 2016. Now name three things that make you pessimistic about Saints football in 2016. Optimistic: Rankins brings the right work ethic and attitude to the team. Laurinitis looks like he's healed and ready to lead this defense. PJ Williams(projected 3rd rounder) head shouldn't be swimming after a red shirt year. Pessimistic: John Jenkins has hugely disappointed me after his initial upsurge. Lelito has never lived up to the love Payton gives him. Barth/Forbath don't have all the qualities or stats I want in a kicker(the great Dane). Bold indicates the player who is highest on my list. So a 3rd pick that is a nice rotational player is a disappointment and a undrafted guard never lived up to what you expected? And our kicker is not on par with the best of all time? Nonsense! They must all be cut and never be heard from again! Look, our hands are tied by a qb that wants to be the highest paid and horrible FA signings. The players we have is what we can afford.
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05-30-2016, 01:33 AM	#5
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Reasons To Be Optimistic And/Or Pessimistic Optimism: We have a much better and deeper roster, better coaches. Pessimism: several of our most talented players are misfits in a base 4-3. Will we be flexible in our 3-4 packages, or will it result in predictability?

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05-30-2016, 07:27 AM	#6
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Reasons To Be Optimistic And/Or Pessimistic Optimistic: RR FIRED, Year 2 of some rookies that looked good. DLine could be better and quicker Pessimism:Oline could be shaky. Lot of unproven players. That old guy that coaches LB's is still here

05-30-2016, 08:10 AM	#7
CheramieIII Fan Since 1967 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Nomad Posts: 7,487 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Reasons To Be Optimistic And/Or Pessimistic I am very happy with the pieces we've picked up. The O Line has plenty enough talent to go around now. The D Line and linebackers have been tremendously improved and without injury the secondary will be better than average. Adding Fleenor and Thomas to the offense gives us 2 more powerful weapons that can only improve our offense.

05-30-2016, 08:24 AM	#8
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Reasons To Be Optimistic And/Or Pessimistic Optimism comes from DA replacing Rob despite what Rob has to say about the matter. Pessimistic is not in the vocabulary yet when the season starts everyone has a 0-0 record. so let the show begin till we are out of the playoff race there is always hope once out of the race it is pride time on the field when the season ends look for any positives you can make the playoffs and/or win the division means i will probably be serving crow sandwiches at my place with a smile on my face.. CheramieIII, SmashMouth, skymike and 2 others like this.

05-30-2016, 09:36 AM	#9
Thirty3 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 1,255	Re: Reasons To Be Optimistic And/Or Pessimistic pretty optomistic O line probably good enough D coaching a concern - we'll see. If they can become more aggressive up front - sky's the limit
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05-30-2016, 09:53 AM	#10
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Reasons To Be Optimistic And/Or Pessimistic I really just have one for each... Optimism: Delvin Breaux and a healthy Keenan Lewis could be one of the best CB tandems in the league. Pessimism: Other than left tackle and center our O-Line still doesn't look great. Lelito or Kelemete at LG and Peat at RG? Strief still starting at RT??

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