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Peat projects at RG not LG

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Maybe this is in anticipation of him wrestling the job away from Strief.

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I don't want Peat at LT or RT guard. I want Peat at RT tackle and Streif on the bench, where he belongs.

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He has two solid NFL OT's ahead of him. He probably still needs a season to surpass Strief, who may be the most under-rated player on the entire Saints team by the fans.

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I knew this was going to be an open letter from Rob!

What the hell was I thinkin'?

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He's the 4th best lineman on the team. That makes him a starting guard. If he doesn't step up this season, he was just not a good pick at #13. More to the point, not a good scheme fit. He was a tackle in college on a running team. He's being placed at guard in the NFL on a passing team. That's not an easy transition. But, I personally think he will shine this year.

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There is nothing underrated about Streif except is propensity to get beat by fast DEs. Remember Ahmad Brooks. Remember JJ Watt.

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Who's the guy who plays for the Bucs that beat Strief 3 times and got Brees injured?

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Strief will be a starter as long as possible because of his intangibles. He's a great leader. Sean Payton would rather have a lineman who doesn't make mental errors rather than a physical beast who gets the protections wrong.

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From RG it's an easier transition to RT than it would be from LT.

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Gerald McCoy

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Strief is a liability and if he starts he's gonna get Brees killed.

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Jacques Smith. Who? Exactly.

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Yeah, those guys never beat any RT's.:rolleyes:

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strief is on his last leg, but my guess is that Peat at guard with strief at tackle gives us the best 5 guys out there we can have. In the meantime we have to find another guard and move Peat to RT and that will probably happen after this season.

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Thank you for making my point. Strief's but belongs on the bench.

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well i can only hope that strief may have been injured last season and returns to form, but he certainly looked to be on his last leg

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I say it over and over. Drafting a a tackle that can swing left to right and back again is vastly under rated. It is not as easy as it seems.

He was not ready to be starter in the NFL when he was drafted
He has almost played his entire football life as a LT. So dance to the right was a mess
It is safe to safe he probably is still a better backup LT still than as a backup RT.
So this is a step in the right direction.
If RT is were he is going to be then RG makes all the sense in the world.

Conclusion he was a bit of a reach in a draft were reaching for OT was all the fad. (mid 20s was his range). He probably would have not gotten past Carolina at 25. If he does a solid job at RG and shows improvement with moving to the right all season long he is not a wasted pick really.

I for one say he is almost on schedule to push for the starting job at RT in year 3.

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Spot on! Just making the transition from being in a left stance to a right will take some time.

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You sir don't know what you are talking about. Danno is correct, Strief is a very solid RT. Especially when he have a RG beside him that doesn't stink it up.

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JJ Watt is the best defensive player in Football. Saying someone belongs on the bench because they got beat by JJ Watt is like saying somebody belongs on the bench because Lawrence Taylor torched them.
Thankfully, we have Sean Payton, who knows what he is talking about.

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It's miss not sir. There are females on this board hence the screen name NonieT. Strief is old, slow and gets injured a lot. Age as caught up to him and he needs to be upgraded. You are welcome to your opinion, however I have mine and it isn't anymore wrong than yours. If Strief is the starting RT tackle he will get Brees killed. The bench is where he belongs. Let him go block that.

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He didn't beat Armstead. Reason he went back to the Rt side. He couldn't get past the LT tackle.

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Why do people always forget this part?
If Payton thought Peat could beat out Strief, we probably would have drafted a guard, but we didn't.
So, tomorrow let's go back to being great at our jobs, and trust that Payton knows what he is doing at his. (for references, check nfl.comteamstatsoff)

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But but but........Watt does that to every RT.

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He didn't know what he was talking about last offseason thinking the OL was fixed.

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I think it's honestly best to move on from long time players so that things are positive before things become nasty. Like it was with Colston. I felt bad wanting him gone and didn't want him to go out the way he did but the team didn't see the warning signs.

Streif is in his 30s, he's at the point of decline.

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So Kelemete was the problem? How does Peat keep Watt from getting to Brees when Peat isn't assigned to Watt? Or in this year's case, Mack who's probably going to be Watt-level good this season.

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I agree. Strief catches way too much grief. He is an above average player and the definition of a team first kind of guy.

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Our worst OL last year was Evans, who played RG, who we cut

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How many years in a row has Brees been a top 5 QB in yards with Strief as RT?

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When he played RG, yes. Kelemetes play at RG was completely horrendous and during those games that's where most of the pressure came from.

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The grief is deserved. I am going to say it again, STRIEF NEEDS TO BE REPLACED. Let is butt adorn the bench.

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Bench our 2nd highest rated O-lineman on the team and our 3rd highest rated player?

Why would anyone want to do that? It just doesn't make sense at all.

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RG was where the line stunk. Evans needed to go. If Peat takes over as RG and Strief holds up (again) for another year I would draft a good RT next draft to groom or take over for Strief. Last season our pass protection and run game suffered from the right side. This season I can see running right not a problem and pass protection should be better also. I think Strief had to help Evans and Kelemete way to much and neither could help him out at all.

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Agree. And Drew couldn't step up in the pocket as well as had in previous years. If Drew had a pocket to step up in to, Strief easily rides his man back and around Brees... no sack.

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Saints expect Andrus Peat to start, but aren’t sure where | ProFootballTalk

and where are all of the experts who have been telling us for years that Brees can't see over tall linemen?

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That's not saying much since the line didn''t come together until the very last part of the season.

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Taking a step up was a huge problem for Brees. The right side getting fixed will be huge in the passing and run game. I would like to see big holes for Ingram to get a head of steam going into the second level not to mention Brees having time to throw. I don't worry to much about the O being good it's always our stinking D that gets us beat.

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Mr. Peat's true position is TACKLE (Sean has said this a few times). If they choose to utilize him any place else, I'd be bummed because he will be out of position & detain his development as tackle.

After the dust settles, I hope Andrus ends back at the tackle position.