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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Halo Exactly I have never read so many commentators, blogs, fans, writers etc. describe a star player as either already "in decline" or about to be like they do with Drew Brees. Facts are the Saints offense ...

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Old 06-03-2016, 01:04 PM   #11
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I have never read so many commentators, blogs, fans, writers etc. describe a star player as either already "in decline" or about to be like they do with Drew Brees. Facts are the Saints offense hasn't been as good as '11 because they've replaced just about every starter but maybe 2, and one of those left standing has been Brees. In that perceived "decline" offensively, the offense still ends up top 5 or sometimes top 2 in the league weekly or overall. Yet all I read, repeatedly, is how noodley armed Brees is, how old he is, how weak he is - when he finishes leading passer, leading TD's, stat after stat, year after year.
So true. And to a fault, every hack that goes down this avenue of thinking has no direct knowledge of the Saints or Brees. What they are feeding off is historical data. QB have always tapered off in the late 30's so it is written in stone. Well, today is not yesterday. Brees has been one of the hardest working players in the game during the off-season since his shoulder injury in his last year with the Chargers. He is arguably in better physical condition than QB's five years or more his younger.
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Old 06-03-2016, 01:43 PM   #12
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The longer the season goes on the more it will show how Brees is doing. Taking hits,shoves, sacks, etc. adds up in time. I would not give him a 3 or 4 year deal, a 2 year extention, maybe. His worth will be how he plays (all) season and how well we do as a team over all. If we win 7-9 games I don't know if I would not go ahead and try rebuild with a different qb. I see no reason to pay 1 player top tier pay when the team is overall less than a true playoff contender or on the edge of being one. This season will tell alot.
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Old 06-03-2016, 02:03 PM   #13
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Brees has shown no signs of slowing so that arguement is not valid. If the Saints let Brees walk it is only because neither wanted to budge. For the love of God give the man 4 years at 80 million. He is worth every penny and next year we will have the cap room to give him some defensive help.
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The longer the season goes on the more it will show how Brees is doing. Taking hits,shoves, sacks, etc. adds up in time. I would not give him a 3 or 4 year deal, a 2 year extention, maybe. His worth will be how he plays (all) season and how well we do as a team over all. If we win 7-9 games I don't know if I would not go ahead and try rebuild with a different qb. I see no reason to pay 1 player top tier pay when the team is overall less than a true playoff contender or on the edge of being one. This season will tell alot.
That may be the smart move for the team, but Tom Condon will most assuredly advise Brees to take nothing less than a comparable contract at Brees' age, and compared to previous history something like Manning received, accounting for the projected annual salary caps going forward...

Expect the Brees camp to ask for four (4) guaranteed years...
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Originally Posted by halloween 65 View Post
The longer the season goes on the more it will show how Brees is doing. Taking hits,shoves, sacks, etc. adds up in time. I would not give him a 3 or 4 year deal, a 2 year extention, maybe. His worth will be how he plays (all) season and how well we do as a team over all.
You have it backwards. The Saints really have no leverage in this situation. The thought that Brees retiring a Saint is way overvalued. Literally you are talking about upwards of 2 years, $45-50 million in contract money, and $30+ million in guaranteed money.

Now certainly the Saints can decide that they cannot afford that type of investment. And that's fine. But to think of offering Brees a 2 year extension at $50 million when the market will offer $100 million for 4 years and thinking he would consider it is nuts. I hope the Saints are a class enough organization not to insult Brees' intelligence after all he has done for the organization.

If we win 7-9 games I don't know if I would not go ahead and try rebuild with a different qb. I see no reason to pay 1 player top tier pay when the team is overall less than a true playoff contender or on the edge of being one. This season will tell alot.
Now that's makes sense. However, if Brees gets into the season without a market value extension, or close to it, you can forget it anyway. With no chance of the Saints of applying the tag, going into free agency is the only logical move.

Offer a market value extension (4 years, $100 million, $60+ million guaranteed), or plan on drafting or paying the money to a different free agent QB.

Those are the options. There really are no others.

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The other side of Drew's value is the amount of Fans he brings into the stadium.
You can count on a very slippery slope if he's not in B&G.
On that miserable Redskin game last season when we got hammered
two things were memorable. It was the last game we had to deal with
the Rougarou. Second was the amount of Brees Jerseys folks were
wearing all around me at an away game. So there's the bargaining chip
win or lose Fans are paying to see Mr. Brees. $$$$$$
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And there you have it, Condon/Brees camp wants more guaranteed money than the Saints are currently willing to commit...

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Here's what a Drew Brees extension can look like and what concerns the Saints

...two league sources pegged a Brees extension as landing somewhere in the neighborhood of four years and $95 million to $100 million, with guaranteed money likely to exceed $65 million...

...The upcoming season's $30 million cap charge for Brees is no longer a pressure point for the Saints...

...One source familiar with the Saints' line of thinking said there is a wild card in play: guaranteed money.

There is a looming possibility that Brees could have an expeditious decline in play, potentially as soon as next season...

...This has given the Saints plenty to think about – and at least some additional motivation to let Brees play out his contract through next season...would also give New Orleans another season to eye options for Brees' potential successor.

Garrett Grayson was drafted in the third round in 2015 to potentially be that player. But heading into Year 2, the Saints still don't know whether he is capable of rising to that expectation. Part of the problem could be the quarterback room that Grayson is sitting in. Grayson needs to master the New Orleans offense in two ways: through work in the classroom and reps on the field, a league source said. But that has been harder than it sounds.

Why? Grayson is sitting in a classroom with Brees and backup Luke McCown...While Grayson is still learning many of the basic ins and outs of the offense, Brees and McCown are operating at an advanced pace in meetings. As a result, the Saints coaching staff is facing a situation where it has become necessary for quarterbacks coach Joe Lombardi to spend additional time with Grayson 1-on-1 in hopes of teaching him basics that Brees and McCown have long mastered...


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Question, who is replacing him? sign him.
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Old 06-05-2016, 10:46 PM   #20
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we have no problem in New Orleans either, drew will live and manage in New Orleans for the foreseeable future according to st thomas seeing into his crystall ball, on sunday night, he also reports not to read into all this hearsay on TV. think about the playoffs we will get into in 2016 and get back on winning the south. drew brees will end his career in narlens people, he will not go out as brett on asre end.

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