Garrett Grayson's poise, control showing improvement in second season

Danno · 06-04-2016, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

No, Brees wasn't franchised because he was refusing to negotiate that previous season, he was franchised because the Saints were at the time unwilling to pay his what he was worth and he didn't want to have any negotiations taking place during the season. His play during that season proved his worth. Once the season was over was when the NFLPA came into play and asked Brees to hold out for the tag to be applied so they could challenge the league.

But regardless, losing Carl Nicks was not the reason the Saints have not been back. The problem has been and remains to be the defense. Having or not having Nicks is way overplayed.

Thats speculation. It was reported on several sites that the Saints offer would have made him the highest paid QB of all time. Drew decided to play out his contract instead.

Agreed Nicks wasn't our downfall, but there was a significant drop-off from Nicks to Grubbs.

AsylumGuido · 06-04-2016, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Thats speculation. It was reported on several sites that the Saints offer would have made him the highest paid QB of all time. Drew decided to play out his contract instead.

Agreed Nicks wasn't our downfall, but there was a significant drop-off from Nicks to Grubbs.

That too is nothing but speculation. But for argument's sake, let's say it is true. Let's say they did offer him a deal that averaged the highest ever, but was structured in such a manner that not much of that was guaranteed and could only be realized on the back end. That's sounds pretty familiar to Loomis type deals, no? It sounds good to someone that doesn't truly understand contracts, but isn't worth a crap as a secure deal in today's game. Gullible media members and their equally unknowing fanbase would eat it up.

And, yes, a significant drop-off, but nothing at all worth vilifying Brees over, especially when it was not his fault whatsoever.

06-04-2016, 02:46 PM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,759	Re: Garrett Grayson's poise, control showing improvement in second season Originally Posted by AsylumGuido No, Brees wasn't franchised because he was refusing to negotiate that previous season, he was franchised because the Saints were at the time unwilling to pay his what he was worth and he didn't want to have any negotiations taking place during the season. His play during that season proved his worth. Once the season was over was when the NFLPA came into play and asked Brees to hold out for the tag to be applied so they could challenge the league. But regardless, losing Carl Nicks was not the reason the Saints have not been back. The problem has been and remains to be the defense. Having or not having Nicks is way overplayed. Thats speculation. It was reported on several sites that the Saints offer would have made him the highest paid QB of all time. Drew decided to play out his contract instead. Agreed Nicks wasn't our downfall, but there was a significant drop-off from Nicks to Grubbs.

06-04-2016, 03:01 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,871	Re: Garrett Grayson's poise, control showing improvement in second season Originally Posted by Danno Thats speculation. It was reported on several sites that the Saints offer would have made him the highest paid QB of all time. Drew decided to play out his contract instead. Agreed Nicks wasn't our downfall, but there was a significant drop-off from Nicks to Grubbs. That too is nothing but speculation. But for argument's sake, let's say it is true. Let's say they did offer him a deal that averaged the highest ever, but was structured in such a manner that not much of that was guaranteed and could only be realized on the back end. That's sounds pretty familiar to Loomis type deals, no? It sounds good to someone that doesn't truly understand contracts, but isn't worth a crap as a secure deal in today's game. Gullible media members and their equally unknowing fanbase would eat it up. And, yes, a significant drop-off, but nothing at all worth vilifying Brees over, especially when it was not his fault whatsoever.

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