Roman Harper Signs With Saints

06-08-2016, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Misused?
Harper is fine if you have uber players (e.g. linebackers, defensive backs) around him to limit his coverage responsibilities to a 3X3 area...

What I don't want to see is valuable camp snaps go to an aged veteran when we've acquired some pretty good talent and need to man up and coach that talent up...

Let's just hope that if Harper is playing, it's because of injuries. At this stage of his career, all I see is a spot player & blitzer at best.

I believe Coach Allen will stand behind what he says and play the best 11 men.

halloween 65 · 06-08-2016, 08:58 AM

Harper can still hit and he can still blitz, good leader. Coverage is not his strong suit but good in the run game. Vaccarro hasn't lit it up so I can see Harper being back.

NonieT · 06-08-2016, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Harper can still hit and he can still blitz, good leader. Coverage is not his strong suit but good in the run game. Vaccarro hasn't lit it up so I can see Harper being back.

How's he supposed to light it up being in such a bad defense? Harper didn't exactly set the world on fire and he was in a good defense. You don't need to trash Vacarro to build up Harper, if you do then he can't be all that.

Danno · 06-08-2016, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by NonieT

How's he supposed to light it up being in such a bad defense? Harper didn't exactly set the world on fire and he was in a good defense. You don't need to trash Vacarro to build up Harper, if you do then he can't be all that.

Harper
Started every game (35) with the Panthers
98 tackles
1 sack
4 ints
1 FF
15 passes defended

Vaccaro
122 tackles
4 sacks
2 ints
1 FF
10 passes defended.

NonieT · 06-08-2016, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Harper
Started every game (35) with the Panthers
98 tackles
1 sack
4 ints
1 FF
15 passes defended

Vaccaro
122 tackles
4 sacks
2 ints
1 FF
10 passes defended.

Those stats for Vacarro in a bad defense makes him great. Those stats for Harper in a good defense means he isn't anything special. He had lots of help. Thank you for proving my point.

joker-saint · 06-08-2016, 10:07 AM

Championship!!! 😁💯

44Champs · 06-08-2016, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

And there you've hit the proverbial nail on the head my friend.

Name one leader we've drafted besides Strief. Rankins looks promising if his play is as advertised.

Which brings us back to what the **** are our scouts doing?

I think Stephone Anthony will eventually step up to be the leader on this defense. He made major strides as a rookie last year, and having Lauranitis as a mentor is only going to help him even more.

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Danno · 06-08-2016, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by NonieT

Those stats for Vacarro in a bad defense makes him great. Those stats for Harper in a good defense means he isn't anything special. He had lots of help. Thank you for proving my point.

That doesn't make sense.

Thirty3 · 06-08-2016, 11:25 AM

can we afford a player to be a locker room presence?
Why not just hire him as a coach.

NonieT · 06-08-2016, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

That doesn't make sense.

It makes perfect sense. Harper had help. I'd bet everyone in that Carolina defense have similar stats. We know everyone in the Saints defense don't have those kind of stats. Vacarro had to do it all my himself. Like I said, there is no need to trash Vacarro to build up Harper. We know what Harper can do and we know what he can't do. The only thing he's got over Vacarro is experience. He should have more experience, he's been around longer. I just hope he's faster than a slug. And spare me the Vacarro is only slightly better than Harper because that's baloney too.

06-08-2016, 08:29 AM	#41
Threaded by K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by jeanpierre Misused? Harper is fine if you have uber players (e.g. linebackers, defensive backs) around him to limit his coverage responsibilities to a 3X3 area... What I don't want to see is valuable camp snaps go to an aged veteran when we've acquired some pretty good talent and need to man up and coach that talent up... Let's just hope that if Harper is playing, it's because of injuries. At this stage of his career, all I see is a spot player & blitzer at best. I believe Coach Allen will stand behind what he says and play the best 11 men.
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06-08-2016, 08:58 AM	#42
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Roman Harper Signs With Saints Harper can still hit and he can still blitz, good leader. Coverage is not his strong suit but good in the run game. Vaccarro hasn't lit it up so I can see Harper being back.

06-08-2016, 09:27 AM	#43
NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: Roman Harper Signs With Saints Originally Posted by halloween 65 Harper can still hit and he can still blitz, good leader. Coverage is not his strong suit but good in the run game. Vaccarro hasn't lit it up so I can see Harper being back. How's he supposed to light it up being in such a bad defense? Harper didn't exactly set the world on fire and he was in a good defense. You don't need to trash Vacarro to build up Harper, if you do then he can't be all that.
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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Roman Harper Signs With Saints Originally Posted by NonieT How's he supposed to light it up being in such a bad defense? Harper didn't exactly set the world on fire and he was in a good defense. You don't need to trash Vacarro to build up Harper, if you do then he can't be all that. Harper Started every game (35) with the Panthers 98 tackles 1 sack 4 ints 1 FF 15 passes defended Vaccaro 122 tackles 4 sacks 2 ints 1 FF 10 passes defended.

06-08-2016, 09:50 AM	#45
NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: Roman Harper Signs With Saints Originally Posted by Danno Harper Started every game (35) with the Panthers 98 tackles 1 sack 4 ints 1 FF 15 passes defended Vaccaro 122 tackles 4 sacks 2 ints 1 FF 10 passes defended. Those stats for Vacarro in a bad defense makes him great. Those stats for Harper in a good defense means he isn't anything special. He had lots of help. Thank you for proving my point. jeanpierre and Beastmode like this.
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44Champs Site Donor Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,589	Re: Roman Harper Signs With Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre And there you've hit the proverbial nail on the head my friend. Name one leader we've drafted besides Strief. Rankins looks promising if his play is as advertised. Which brings us back to what the **** are our scouts doing? I think Stephone Anthony will eventually step up to be the leader on this defense. He made major strides as a rookie last year, and having Lauranitis as a mentor is only going to help him even more. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk
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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Roman Harper Signs With Saints Originally Posted by NonieT Those stats for Vacarro in a bad defense makes him great. Those stats for Harper in a good defense means he isn't anything special. He had lots of help. Thank you for proving my point. That doesn't make sense. AsylumGuido and \|Mitch\| like this.

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06-08-2016, 11:40 AM	#50
NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: Roman Harper Signs With Saints Originally Posted by Danno That doesn't make sense. It makes perfect sense. Harper had help. I'd bet everyone in that Carolina defense have similar stats. We know everyone in the Saints defense don't have those kind of stats. Vacarro had to do it all my himself. Like I said, there is no need to trash Vacarro to build up Harper. We know what Harper can do and we know what he can't do. The only thing he's got over Vacarro is experience. He should have more experience, he's been around longer. I just hope he's faster than a slug. And spare me the Vacarro is only slightly better than Harper because that's baloney too.
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