Roman Harper Signs With Saints

jeanpierre · 06-08-2016, 06:55 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Harper was a stud for us. I do feel he was misused at times, but that became a trend with our past few DC's. I am hoping Dennis Allen can use the players to their strengths instead of trying to force them into a "system" like Ryan tends to do everywhere he fails.

Misused? Harper is a defensive back and is asked to cover receivers? Heaven forbid we should ask him to actually cover anyone.

Harper is fine if you have uber players (e.g. linebackers, defensive backs) around him to limit his coverage responsibilities to a 3X3 area...

He's always been horrible in space by his limited athleticism; if he did Dancin' with the Stars, he'd be the first NFLer to go out week 1...

Why or why couldn't we have drafted one of the good Saban-coached Bama safeties?

Yeah, sure he could blitz but can't cover; do you bring a Corvette to a tractor-pull? Just make him a rush linebacker and be done with it...

It won't be any surprise to the league as to where he's going pre-snap unless he drops into coverage and you see Aaron Rogers eyes light up like Christmas...

I was curious to see who we release to make room for him - maybe a Tight End? No, a linebacker - maybe there's silver lining that we're set there.

What I don't want to see is valuable camp snaps go to an aged veteran when we've acquired some pretty good talent and need to man up and coach that talent up...

K Major · 06-08-2016, 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Misused?
Harper is fine if you have uber players (e.g. linebackers, defensive backs) around him to limit his coverage responsibilities to a 3X3 area...

What I don't want to see is valuable camp snaps go to an aged veteran when we've acquired some pretty good talent and need to man up and coach that talent up...

Let's just hope that if Harper is playing, it's because of injuries. At this stage of his career, all I see is a spot player & blitzer at best.

I believe Coach Allen will stand behind what he says and play the best 11 men.

halloween 65 · 06-08-2016, 07:58 AM

Harper can still hit and he can still blitz, good leader. Coverage is not his strong suit but good in the run game. Vaccarro hasn't lit it up so I can see Harper being back.

NonieT · 06-08-2016, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Harper can still hit and he can still blitz, good leader. Coverage is not his strong suit but good in the run game. Vaccarro hasn't lit it up so I can see Harper being back.

How's he supposed to light it up being in such a bad defense? Harper didn't exactly set the world on fire and he was in a good defense. You don't need to trash Vacarro to build up Harper, if you do then he can't be all that.

Danno · 06-08-2016, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by NonieT

How's he supposed to light it up being in such a bad defense? Harper didn't exactly set the world on fire and he was in a good defense. You don't need to trash Vacarro to build up Harper, if you do then he can't be all that.

Harper
Started every game (35) with the Panthers
98 tackles
1 sack
4 ints
1 FF
15 passes defended

Vaccaro
122 tackles
4 sacks
2 ints
1 FF
10 passes defended.

NonieT · 06-08-2016, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Harper
Started every game (35) with the Panthers
98 tackles
1 sack
4 ints
1 FF
15 passes defended

Vaccaro
122 tackles
4 sacks
2 ints
1 FF
10 passes defended.

Those stats for Vacarro in a bad defense makes him great. Those stats for Harper in a good defense means he isn't anything special. He had lots of help. Thank you for proving my point.

Danno · 06-08-2016, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by NonieT

Those stats for Vacarro in a bad defense makes him great. Those stats for Harper in a good defense means he isn't anything special. He had lots of help. Thank you for proving my point.

That doesn't make sense.

joker-saint · 06-08-2016, 09:07 AM

Championship!!! 😁💯

Thirty3 · 06-08-2016, 10:25 AM

can we afford a player to be a locker room presence?
Why not just hire him as a coach.

The Dude · 06-08-2016, 10:58 AM

Locker room guy and player coach. They missed his leadership more than anything. He did have career years at Carolina so maybe we get lucky and get one good year of play.

06-08-2016, 06:55 AM	#1
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Roman Harper Signs With Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Harper was a stud for us. I do feel he was misused at times, but that became a trend with our past few DC's. I am hoping Dennis Allen can use the players to their strengths instead of trying to force them into a "system" like Ryan tends to do everywhere he fails. Misused? Harper is a defensive back and is asked to cover receivers? Heaven forbid we should ask him to actually cover anyone. Harper is fine if you have uber players (e.g. linebackers, defensive backs) around him to limit his coverage responsibilities to a 3X3 area... He's always been horrible in space by his limited athleticism; if he did Dancin' with the Stars, he'd be the first NFLer to go out week 1... Why or why couldn't we have drafted one of the good Saban-coached Bama safeties? Yeah, sure he could blitz but can't cover; do you bring a Corvette to a tractor-pull? Just make him a rush linebacker and be done with it... It won't be any surprise to the league as to where he's going pre-snap unless he drops into coverage and you see Aaron Rogers eyes light up like Christmas... I was curious to see who we release to make room for him - maybe a Tight End? No, a linebacker - maybe there's silver lining that we're set there. What I don't want to see is valuable camp snaps go to an aged veteran when we've acquired some pretty good talent and need to man up and coach that talent up...
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06-08-2016, 07:29 AM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,827 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Roman Harper Signs With Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre Misused? Harper is fine if you have uber players (e.g. linebackers, defensive backs) around him to limit his coverage responsibilities to a 3X3 area... What I don't want to see is valuable camp snaps go to an aged veteran when we've acquired some pretty good talent and need to man up and coach that talent up... Let's just hope that if Harper is playing, it's because of injuries. At this stage of his career, all I see is a spot player & blitzer at best. I believe Coach Allen will stand behind what he says and play the best 11 men.

06-08-2016, 07:58 AM	#3
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Roman Harper Signs With Saints Harper can still hit and he can still blitz, good leader. Coverage is not his strong suit but good in the run game. Vaccarro hasn't lit it up so I can see Harper being back.

06-08-2016, 08:27 AM	#4
NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: Roman Harper Signs With Saints Originally Posted by halloween 65 Harper can still hit and he can still blitz, good leader. Coverage is not his strong suit but good in the run game. Vaccarro hasn't lit it up so I can see Harper being back. How's he supposed to light it up being in such a bad defense? Harper didn't exactly set the world on fire and he was in a good defense. You don't need to trash Vacarro to build up Harper, if you do then he can't be all that.
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06-08-2016, 08:48 AM	#5
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: Roman Harper Signs With Saints Originally Posted by NonieT How's he supposed to light it up being in such a bad defense? Harper didn't exactly set the world on fire and he was in a good defense. You don't need to trash Vacarro to build up Harper, if you do then he can't be all that. Harper Started every game (35) with the Panthers 98 tackles 1 sack 4 ints 1 FF 15 passes defended Vaccaro 122 tackles 4 sacks 2 ints 1 FF 10 passes defended.

06-08-2016, 08:50 AM	#6
NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: Roman Harper Signs With Saints Originally Posted by Danno Harper Started every game (35) with the Panthers 98 tackles 1 sack 4 ints 1 FF 15 passes defended Vaccaro 122 tackles 4 sacks 2 ints 1 FF 10 passes defended. Those stats for Vacarro in a bad defense makes him great. Those stats for Harper in a good defense means he isn't anything special. He had lots of help. Thank you for proving my point. jeanpierre and Beastmode like this.
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06-08-2016, 09:54 AM	#7
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: Roman Harper Signs With Saints Originally Posted by NonieT Those stats for Vacarro in a bad defense makes him great. Those stats for Harper in a good defense means he isn't anything special. He had lots of help. Thank you for proving my point. That doesn't make sense. AsylumGuido and \|Mitch\| like this.

06-08-2016, 09:07 AM	#8
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Thirty3 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 1,255	Re: Roman Harper Signs With Saints can we afford a player to be a locker room presence? Why not just hire him as a coach.
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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,060	Re: Roman Harper Signs With Saints Locker room guy and player coach. They missed his leadership more than anything. He did have career years at Carolina so maybe we get lucky and get one good year of play.
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